When I was a smoker if I quit for a day or more the fist cigarette I smoked would hit me like a freight train. Not full on nicotine overdose but light headed. The other day I went all day without any vaporizing and when I started I had no ill effects. I was using a 18mg VG liquid. Do we think it may have to do with the lack of additional toxins, not taking in as much nicotine, that your not compelled to finish off an entire tank or cart because you aren't wasting it like a cig. I just found it interesting that it was so different.
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You're getting a lot less nic per puff than a cig (most people vape a lot more than they ever smoked, on a puff per puff basis, to make up for it). Also, yes, likely other psychoactive chemicals in cigs that you're not experiencing.
I notice that I vape a little heavier when I get a craving. I haven't smoked in over a year but they still hit me from time to time.
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About the delivery of nicotine, analogs use many toxic chemicals to deliver nicotine into the blood stream in the quickest and most potent way. When you vape it is a much less efficient way to deliver nicotine into the blood b/c there are no toxic chemicals that boost the nicotine's effects. The juices we use are not meant to get people addicted, rather to help people cut down on nicotine if they choose to. Analogs are altered to cause addiction and heavier usage.
Carbon Monoxide has 200 times the affinity for hemoglobin that oxygen does. So an analog can make you feel lightheaded as the CO takes up space from oxygen. Just my.
I still call BS unless you have a source (a real source, not a random blog) that proves cigs can cause light headedness due to carbon monoxide. Regarding "taking up space from oxygen", that's obviously BS, I can hold my breath for longer than someone taking a drag on a cig, then take a breath, then hold my breath for longer than a drag, etc, for a long time without getting light headed. And so can you. It's like people who claim kids who huff nitrous or whatever are actually just getting oxygen deprived: BS.
Again, if there's a source/study that says differently, I won't feel adamant about it. But it sounds like bull.
Okay, here is a source: Why is Carbon Monoxide so Poisonous?
Let me know if I can help you by providing more sources. I will be happy to.
Let me know if I can help you by providing more sources. I will be happy to.
Your reaction is really surprising. Is this really news to you? Just do a google search for 'carbon monoxide and cigarettes'...quite a few sources come up.
Here's one to get you started: Carbon Monoxide Exposure from Cigarettes: Just one more Reason to Quit
Im not a expert but it would seem strange that carbon monoxide build-up would be the culprit after 1 cigarette especially because after a small wait I can smoke through a whole pack without any symptoms. It would seem from my experience that it may be a reaction to some other chemical released during smoking or the interaction of nicotine with some other substance. Maybe I'll order a crazy nic level juice and see if I can recreate it with vapor after 24 hours of no nicotine. Although I wouldn't mind being nicotine free and just using plain juice.
I knkow what you mean after i had operation and no analogs at the time and being a 2 pad smoker the first one hit me real good its like the very first time .
I think along its all the stuff in them stinky's.
I think along its all the stuff in them stinky's.
I had to run to work, so I took my Kgo. I got there and realized i grabbed the wrong battery. The one I brought was dead. I had no problem going 4 hours with out it. If that were cigarettes, I would've ran to the store as soon as I realized I didn't have any.
That's interesting about the carbon monoxide. I always wondered what caused the lightheadedness from smoking after not smoking for awhile. But why doesn't it always effect smokers like that? Why is it only after waiting a long time to smoke?
That's a great question, sandybeach, and similar to the thoughts I was having while progressing through this thread. If the lightheadedness is a result of carbon monoxide, it would seem reasonable to expect that same result following every cigarette; not just the first one.
I don't have the answer, but my recent experience vaping juice with WTA (whole tobacco alkaloids) yields a similar lightheadedness after a couple of minutes. It isn't as immediate, or as strong as from the first analog of the day, but it's a noticeable sensation. I sincerely doubt it's caused by carbon monoxide in the vapor, and attribute the effect directly to WTA that I was getting while smoking (along with all the other chemicals resulting from burning tobacco - including carbon monoxide).
In comparison, I don't experience any type of lightheadedness with 'nic only' juice. What's more, I tend to think upping the nic level to the point lightheadedness occurs would probably be associated with an increase in blood pressure (not good).
I have noticed though, in order to literally feel the effect of WTA in my first morning vape, I have to limit my use of WTA juice during the last half of the day; probably because it has to clear out of my system before morning. At any rate, I don't use WTA juice to feel the effect, but to satisfy and quell my tendency to chain vape, and it's doing THAT very well.
I don't have the answer, but my recent experience vaping juice with WTA (whole tobacco alkaloids) yields a similar lightheadedness after a couple of minutes. It isn't as immediate, or as strong as from the first analog of the day, but it's a noticeable sensation. I sincerely doubt it's caused by carbon monoxide in the vapor, and attribute the effect directly to WTA that I was getting while smoking (along with all the other chemicals resulting from burning tobacco - including carbon monoxide).
In comparison, I don't experience any type of lightheadedness with 'nic only' juice. What's more, I tend to think upping the nic level to the point lightheadedness occurs would probably be associated with an increase in blood pressure (not good).
I have noticed though, in order to literally feel the effect of WTA in my first morning vape, I have to limit my use of WTA juice during the last half of the day; probably because it has to clear out of my system before morning. At any rate, I don't use WTA juice to feel the effect, but to satisfy and quell my tendency to chain vape, and it's doing THAT very well.
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Just from my experience (quit smoking and began vaping roughly 6 months ago), the "urge" to smoke was significantly more intense than my present urge to vape. Rather than needing that cigarette, I simply enjoy vaping. I would attribute this to taking in a significantly lower amount of nicotine (not to mention the hundreds of other toxins I am avoiding). I admit, I do miss the occasional head-rush, but will manage knowing the lungs appreciate my efforts!
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