NLV, There is something seriously wrong with this juice?

[DKS-1]

Excuse me, How do I know the 30 ml and the jug came out of the same batch...I don't work there and the fact that they are a small shop is immaterial, My health is more important then their profits.

I ordered 50 ml of twilight just the other day, after I e-mailed them about this situation, they e-mailed me telling me they cancelled that order due to health reason. There was no mention of what happen with the bounty hunter...no apologies, no refund, NOTHING, is this what you call a good company?

So, you buy a product that hundreds of others have no problem with. You bash it on a public forum. You had the same problem with another reputable product, but now you're trying to explain that away. You've already been using a perishable product that is non returnable. And you're surprised you didn't get a refund? You accused him of having a product that is physically harmful to your health on a public forum, but now you're upset that you can't buy more stuff from him? ? This is hilarious!
I'm sorry, if you're being serious, I'm sorry on so many levels, but hopefully, reading through your posts, that you're just a funny guy, lol. Hopefully.

 

[FRANKSTER]

So, you buy a product that hundreds of others have no problem with. You bash it on a public forum. You had the same problem with another reputable product, but now you're trying to explain that away. You've already been using a perishable product that is non returnable. And you're surprised you didn't get a refund? You accused him of having a product that is physically harmful to your health on a public forum, but now you're upset that you can't buy more stuff from him? ? This is hilarious!
I'm sorry, if you're being serious, I'm sorry on so many levels, but hopefully, reading through your posts, that you're just a funny guy, lol. Hopefully.

I am deadly serious. I do not joke around when it comes to my health. The other juice you are referring to must be vermillion's juice. I explained that already and I apologized for that already. Sure, I asked for a refund...even without the coughing, the juice is not the same juice as the previous bounty hunter that I purchased. I deserve a refund just for that.

 

[classwife]

OK...sit back...take a moment and chill...it is easy for discussions to get out of hand since you can't hear tone of voice.

Think about it...we are all here to help each other...We are not here to attack each other.

I am posting this again...chill it out in here...stop the sniping...EVERYONE !

 

[ambientech]

I didn't mean to get in the middle of this so I am no longer going to comment after this post. I will let my jug steep a bit longer with hopes that it is what is the problem.

 

[Mr.Mann]

Hey Frankster, if you are stuck with all that juice and people here seem to be cool with it, why don't you put it on the classifieds? You may not recoup all your money but maybe you could get a good trade or a nice chunk of your money back. Just a thought...oh, and I never had a quarrel with you. Trust me, it was not a quarrel, okay...

 

[FRANKSTER]

Hey Frankster, if you are stuck with all that juice and people here seem to be cool with it, why don't you put it on the classifieds? You may not recoup all your money but maybe you could get a good trade or a nice chunk of your money back. Just a thought...oh, and I never had a quarrel with you. Trust me, it was not a quarrel, okay...

I want to just forget this whole thing...I cannot put it up because the juice came in a jug and I placed it in 15ml bottles so you will not even know it is bounty hunter, I will just toss it out.

 

[Mr.Mann]

Sorry to hear!

No hard feelings...

p.s. I got Bounty Hunter from a fellow ECF member/friend that sent it to me in a generic bottle, and I know it is Bounty Hunter. I respect your decision though.

peace

 

[LucentShadow]

I've only ordered a few premixed e-liquids, but I've had one that bothered me only on the second order (different vendor.) It also tasted different. My wife said it tasted the same to her, but she didn't use it often. I tried it again sometime later, and it was fine... This sort of thing has happened to me a few times.

I'd just like to point out that I don't think that I've found a vendor that will offer refunds or returns on e-liquids. A certain subset of customers would be happy to collectively bankrupt the vendors if they allowed it. Same generally goes for cartos.

I'd suggest reading up on mixing your own juice. I'm very picky about mine, and have experienced some explainable (and some mysterious) reactions to e-liquids that pretty much forces me to mix my own. It can be frustrating to find flavorings that you like, though, and also to learn each one's 'good ratio'.

Or, perhaps, try vaping some unflavored for a while when they don't taste right, or are bothering you. It can help to sort of reset your taste buds a bit, and maybe allow your lungs to clear what was bothering them.

Trying unflavored would allow you to eliminate flavorings from the equation to troubleshoot your coughing issue, if it happens to not be just this e-liquid that causes it.

 

[Voltron]

I actually had an experience like the FRANKSTER a while back. I tried vaping some juice and it tasted harsh and horrible, making me cough as well. I quickly blamed the juice and traded it on the classies.

Later that week, I filled up another carto with one of my daily vapes, and was surprised to experience the same thing! It didn't make any sense to me since I had vaped from the same bottle before with no problems. It is then that I realized I had been sold a bad batch of cartos.

Vaping on a bad carto tastes exactly how the FRANKSTER describes the BH, so maybe that is the source of the problem. I personally stopped buying cartos because more than half of them were giving me issues. Now I vape on clearomizers and will most likely never buy another carto again.

 

[sandybeach]

Sometimes I burn my cartos and everything I try tastes awful. I also had this one juice I loved -- cantaloupe. And every time after the first time I bought it, it tasted bad. I'm thinking it was my taste buds. But it's still disappointing.

 

[Randy C]

Here is what I do to stay away from inconsistent juice:
BWB
Mom&Pops Vapor
Highbrow

 

[DKS-1]

I have literally spent over $1000 at NLV this year alone, and I've NEVER had a problem with any of their juice. They are very consistent IMO, and I think I'm pretty qualified to make that call, considering.

 

[sandybeach]

DKS-1, what do you do, inject the stuff ?

 

[FRANKSTER]

I have literally spent over $1000 at NLV this year alone, and I've NEVER had a problem with any of their juice. They are very consistent IMO, and I think I'm pretty qualified to make that call, considering.

What you are saying means absolutely nothing to me, I received a defective juice...why is this so strange, I have better things to do than lie about a juice that I thought was going to be my main juice. Now, that is gone too.

 

[harleydiva]

What you are saying means absolutely nothing to me, I received a defective juice...why is this so strange, I have better things to do than lie about a juice that I thought was going to be my main juice. Now, that is gone too.

Maybe you just don't like it????? Happens...I've gotten juices that others have raved about that I thought tasted totally crappy....

 

[DKS-1]

DKS-1, what do you do, inject the stuff ?

I put pots of it on the stove and just let the vapor fill my entire house, that way I save money on batteries, lol

What you are saying means absolutely nothing to me, I received a defective juice...why is this so strange, I have better things to do than lie about a juice that I thought was going to be my main juice. Now, that is gone too.

I'm not going to try to argue with you. I'm just saying I've bought a lot of juice from Gene and have never had a problem.

I also know that his juice is mixed off site in large quantities, so if one bottle was bad, lots of bottles would be bad and that's not the case or we would have heard much feedback about it on here as popular as Bounty Hunter is, and the fact that the batch you ordered from sold out in like 4 hours, so plenty of other people on here, including myself, has the EXACT same juice.

I'm not going to get into an argument, or even make any more points about it, or even check this thread anymore, for that matter. I'm just stating the facts as they are so others can make an informed decision regarding your statement about how "something is seriously wrong" with Gene's product and not just be blindly led into believing something they don't have all the facts about.

 

[FRANKSTER]

I put pots of it on the stove and just let the vapor fill my entire house, that way I save money on batteries, lol






I'm not going to try to argue with you. I'm just saying I've bought a lot of juice from Gene and have never had a problem.

I also know that his juice is mixed off site in large quantities, so if one bottle was bad, lots of bottles would be bad and that's not the case or we would have heard much feedback about it on here as popular as Bounty Hunter is, and the fact that the batch you ordered from sold out in like 4 hours, so plenty of other people on here, including myself, has the EXACT same juice.

I'm not going to get into an argument, or even make any more points about it, or even check this thread anymore, for that matter. I'm just stating the facts as they are so others can make an informed decision regarding your statement about how "something is seriously wrong" with Gene's product and not just be blindly led into believing something they don't have all the facts about.

I have all the facts I need, I vape the juice, I cough my brains out all day...I do not vape the juice and I am fine. That is conclusive evidence that there is something seriously wrong with this juice. Not to mention that the juice does not even resemble the bounty Hunter I had a few weeks back. That is not being blindly led into anything but the truth.

 

[FRANKSTER]

Maybe you just don't like it????? Happens...I've gotten juices that others have raved about that I thought tasted totally crappy....

I think you have not read the op? This is not a question of whether I like a juice or not, this is a question of health and safety.

 

[FRANKSTER]

Some people actually think that I would question nlv's juice so as to get a freebie...how absurd can you get? I do not need the 45 dollars and I would never and I mean never do something like that. I have no problem talking about how lousy a juice is and I know all too well how lousy 99.9999 percent of the juices out there are just that...lousy.

But, I am totally insulted for people to imply that this is some cheap trick to get some money. Think about this, when I first got the 30ml of bounty hunter, I thought it was the best all around juice I have ever had. Why in god's name would I want to not be able to purchase it again if I were not speaking the truth.

They should close this thread also and close all my other threads because reading the post that vilify me for speaking the truth is the real pathetic part of all this. I have never seen so many .... people in my entire life all in one forum. Instead of wanting to know really what's up with this juice, the assumption is made that I am lying. That is an indictment of people in the vaping world.

You guys have found your own little paradise that you are just intolerable to anyone who questions it. Close all my threads and I will never post another thread. I will hide in the shadows and say nothing or defend a customer who is in the right like so many of you do.

 

[GWG73]

Close all my threads and I will never post another thread.

Thank you!