Nnicotine Extraction (from yahoo answers). What do u think.

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You will need litmus paper, acid (such as "muriatic" [hydrochloric] or sulfuric), base (lye is good), and a nonpolar solvent (benzene, toluene, or xylene are all good.)
This is a simple acid/base extraction that is pretty standard for alkaloids (of which nicotine is one.) It will yield pure crystal nicotine HCl. If you use sulfuric acid then you will get nicotine sulfate. Both are salts of nicotine and are pharmacologically similar. The average cigarette contains 1 milligram of nicotine, so keep that in mind when dosing your final product with crystal. Nicotine is a very potent drug! It only takes a few milligrams to make someone sick.
Here it is:

1) Take tobacco and mix it with distilled water. Make the tobacco water acidic to litmus paper (only a few drops of HCl needed.) Pour off the water and save it. Repeat this two or three more times, until the water is not so dark. Combine all of the water extract. Now the acidic (protonated) form of nicotine is in the water. There is also a lot of other crap there, too.

2) Add lye-water dropwise to the acidic tobacco water until the water is alkaline to litmus. Now the acidic form of nicotine has been converted to the "free base" form (deprotonated.) It is now more soluble in a nonpolar solvent than water.

3) Add about a half volume of nonpolar solvent (benzene, toluene, xylene) to the alkaline water and gently mix. If they are mixed vigorously you will get an emulsion, which is a nightmare to separate if you don't have a centrifuge. Anyway, mix gently, such as slowly inverting the mixture in a closed bottle repeatedly. As long as two distinct layers are forming when the bubbles settle down you are in business. Pour off the top layer (the solvent.) Repeat this two more times. Combine the solvent. Now the free base nicotine is in the solvent and is relatively pure. But we need the salt of nicotine, not the free base.

4) Take about 2 volumes of distilled water and make them acidic by dropwise addition of acid. Use this water to extract out the nicotine from the solvent. By mixing the water with the solvent in the same manner described above the nicotine will now dissolve preferentially into the water. Extract out the nicotine with the acidic water 3 times. Combine the water. Now (slowly!) add dropwise lye water until the pH is neutral (7). Evaporate the water. The yellow crystals left behind are pure nicotine HCl. Protect them from light when storing as nicotine is photosensitive. Have fun!
 

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I read this to my husband and he says it seems accurate, except that it leaves you with the salt form of nicotine, which (he thinks) is not what we use. Maybe Kurt or someone can comment on this.

He remembers doing this in a chemistry lab (many years ago) and did use an acid, and then just an organic extraction. The organic solvent was then evaporated off. He can't remember exactly what they did, but he's going to try to dig out his old notes and see.

I've looked at a couple of nicotine extraction methods online and this one seems like it would yield the cleanest nicotine ((many of the others just have you soaking the tobacco in water and then evaporing, which would leave a lot of other junk). I don't know how you'd deal with it being a salt in the end though.

Goes without saying that this is way beyond the expertise of many diyers, and should only be attempted with extreme caution (or not at all).
 

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Okay, I read through the procedure that he did way back in the day and it's way too complicated for home use, and requires chemicals that would be difficult to obtain. Basically it has you doing extraction in a basic solution which would keep the nicotine in a free base form. That's not so bad, but then it has you extracting the aqueous solution several times with ether. That would be problematic. Ether, as far as I know is hard to find and fairly dangerous. The yield of nicotine was not very high either. It said it would yield 0.1 grams of nic from 8.5 grams of cigar tobacco.
 

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I would like to say that using (Sodium Hydroxide) Lye should be used with care. Safety Goggles & Gloves! Making a very strong base with Water/Lye can burn your skin and damage your eyes if you get it in them. Its best to keep a bottle of Vinegar nearby to neutralize it if you accidentally spill some.

Just a word of caution.
 

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I would like to say that using (Sodium Hydroxide) Lye should be used with care. Safety Goggles & Gloves! Making a very strong base with Water/Lye can burn your skin and damage your eyes if you get it in them. Its best to keep a bottle of Vinegar nearby to neutralize it if you accidentally spill some.

Just a word of caution.

I'd like to add more than a word of caution. The yahoo-answers method is completely and utterly straight forward and standard extraction-acid-base flip technique. For a chemist. Asking if it is a valid method, or the opinion of a chemist, tells me, youmadbrah, that you are not even close to being ready to do it. There is much to deal with here in this "simple" method, such as waste removal, correct use of glassware, and purification to remove solvents. You do not want to vape ANY aromatic solvents. You also will be ending up with pure, or close to pure, free-base nicotine.

I am a seasoned chemist, and could do this extraction easily with my lab gear and solvents, but I will not. I refuse to work with pure nic, let alone the inevitable mess that extractions can be. This is NOT the alkaloid to learn the method with. Practice it with caffeine. When you can isolate pure white crystalline caffeine from tea leaves you MIGHT be ready to try this, but caffeine is basically a college organic lab, and there is no way I would expect even my best students to extract and purify nic without making themselves sick or worse.

If you do not have a fume hood, forget it. If you do not have an environmentally safe solvent disposal strategy, forget it. If you have never isolated a pure alkaloid from a plant, REALLY forget it.

Buying 100 mg nic-liquid is many times safer, cheaper, easier. Storage in the freezer = nic forever. I only know of one chemist here that has actually gone through the nightmare of nic extraction, and he is the one that came up with WTA. It is a pain to carry out, and is very expensive and time consuming to get a very small amount of product. Way more than just buying nic-liquid.

In fact, I do think that this method will make a WTA, not just nicotine. The assumption seems to be that nic is the only basic alkaloid in the tobacco. Of course, there is a range of other alkaloids too, depending on the tobacco. I have had the rustica WTA (whole tobacco alkaloid), and I have to say it is NOT like vaping nic only. Some think it is the holy grail, others like me are not very fond of it. Too strong and heady for me, makes me a bit sick feeling even at very low mg/mL concentrations.


All this is moot, however, if you have not done this sort of extraction before, or do not understand the reactions involved in it. Of course, it is up to you, but unless you cannot get nic-liquid in Egypt at all, and have access to a LOT of tobacco, solvents, glassware, ventilation, etc, I would strongly suggest not doing this. Really not worth the $, effort and the dangers involved.
 

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Okay, I read through the procedure that he did way back in the day and it's way too complicated for home use, and requires chemicals that would be difficult to obtain. Basically it has you doing extraction in a basic solution which would keep the nicotine in a free base form. That's not so bad, but then it has you extracting the aqueous solution several times with ether. That would be problematic. Ether, as far as I know is hard to find and fairly dangerous. The yield of nicotine was not very high either. It said it would yield 0.1 grams of nic from 8.5 grams of cigar tobacco.

This is the high end, given a perfect extraction. Which for a novice is virtually impossible. Really not worth it at all.
 
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