No Problem with E Cig But KGO Not Going Well

[Valjean]

I just don't get it. I was using the Bedford Slims e-cigarettes and having no problem with the taste, draw or inhale of their cartridges, but with the my new KGO, I am hacking away uncontrollably and the flavor of the juice is sooooo strong I cannot stand the taste of it. My juice is Mt. Baker banana nuts (80/20 12mg) and I am using a Boge 2.0ohm LR cartomizer. I'm afraid I cannot tolerate it. I am thinking maybe I should bag the sweet bakery flavors and perhaps try a fruit. I also think I may need a cooler non sweet vapor if I can get over the coughing--would I use a SR cartomizer for a cooler vapor?

I would stick with the Bedford Slims, but their cartridges last about a day and a half--if that--and they are so unreliable which makes them not cost effective, but they sure got me off the analogs with no problem. This is a problem.

I am so nervous that this was a huge disappointment. Any suggestions as to what to try or do to make this a more pleasant experience. I did try the trick of not directly inhaling which eliminates the coughing, but what about the strong ejuice taste--do they all have that over the top strong flavor? I mean, I was using the Bedford Slims and their level of flavor was nothing like what I am experiencing. i did not order extra flavoring so what I tried is just their normal level of strength. Okay, getting a little better, and I think it may be the flavor. Bedford has a mild light vanilla tobacco which was really kind of nice. Perhaps smokin' bananas just isn't my thing, but I also tried MBV's caramel coffee and that nearly knocked me over. What's going on--should I lower the PG (I wish I knew what Bedford was using for juice) and maybe that would elimininate some of the harshness or should I just continue to look for new ejuice?

Any referrals for a lighter milder flavored juice?

 

[MorpheusPA]

If your kGo is a variable voltage model, turn it WAY down and work up from there. I find a lot of juices overwhelming at 3.8 volts or above.

That having been said, I just find a lot of flavors overwhelming. That may be your issue as well. It took me a lot of thrashing to find something I liked, and that led me to DIY liquids and making my own. In my case, I couldn't find what I wanted--a warmer, gentler menthol.

I use about half the recommended amounts of flavoring, and that's just right for me! There are, however, plenty of lighter liquids people can suggest. Neither coffee nor banana are generally going to be on that list.

One thing you can try and that might help (maybe) would be higher resistance cartomizers if your device isn't variable voltage. Standard 2.4 ohm (if we can say there's such a thing as a standard, they're certainly extremely common) might work better for you, or even going up to 2.8 ohms. Your kGo is pushing more power than the little cig-alike ever could. Raising the resistance will also cool the vapor.

I also tried the 2.0 carto and abandoned it almost immediately. Too harsh, too hot, too unpleasant. My mother loves them, and she was welcome to the things.

Most of us upgrade because of the larger battery's better power, or moderated power in most cases. That produces more and warmer vapor and more flavor on average. Raising resistance or going with a variable voltage unit and turning it way down should solve your issues.

 

[Valjean]

Thanks so much. I have to order more cartos, and I will go with the SR instead and look for lighter flavored liquid. I understand what you are saying about the higher voltage, and I think you may be spot on. I never thought about that. Should I also get a higher VG ratio as well? I still don't know what the difference is between PG and VG other than the VG has more vapor--which I think I may make me more happy. Are there any other advantages of getting a higher VG like 60/40?

 

[The_Jerkstore]

The higher the PG the stronger the throat hit. 70pg/30vg is pretty much standard so i doubt 80 would make a hugh difference. Are you sure you filled your carto enough? Also, with a Kgo fresh off the charger and a LR carto you're vaping at over 8watts. I would guess your Bedford was closer to 5 watts. I would suggest you stick with LR cartos but thats up to you. I find LR feels more like a cigarette. Go to the juice reiview section of this forum and you'll be able to figure out some good juices and vendors. Good luck.

 

[Valjean]

Since I cannot yet post on other forums, I thought I might add my 2 cents on the Mt. Baker flavors. I ordered Coffee Caramel, Bananas Gone Nuts, Cinnamon Roll, and their Peanut Butter Cup. They were also kind enough to send me a Cookie Blaster. I have only tried the Coffee Caramel and the Bananas Gone Nuts, but whooooaa nellie, they taste exactly as named--it's amazing. Caramel on the intake and coffee on the exhale.

Bananas Gone Nuts which I understand is their original formula tastes exactly like a piece of banana bread--huge banana on the inhale and that nutty bready flavor when you exhale. Actually, both have excellent flavor, and if you like these kind of flavors, I would not hesitate to try them. I can see one or the other being very good in the morning with coffee. Otherwise, I don't think I could vape these on a long term. Since I am a newbie, I think I may find my favorites in the lighter fruit flavors--I hope, I hope.

I may be a novice, but Mt. Baker Vapes sure did hit the nail on the head with their flavors.

 

[MorpheusPA]

PG does produce a lot more throat hit and lets the flavors shine through beautifully.

VG has less throat hit (none, really), tends to mute flavor, and produces huge clouds of vapor.

My preference is 70% PG/30% VG, but everybody differs. Some people like 100% VG liquids. I tried them and did like them, but filling the cartos was more difficult as it tends to be thick. You can add a drop or three of distilled water to the 10 ml bottle and fix that, but I didn't happen to have any on-hand.

We all thrash until we find what we like. I'm currently using my low-flavor DIY liquid in a Kanger T3 tank on a Volt X2--so I'm vaping with lowered flavor liquid on a tank that slightly mutes flavor at 3.7 volts and 2.6 ohms. I'm just over 5 watts, which is pretty low.

I also like and use CE3 cleartomizers, about 2.4 ohms, and I'm perfectly happy with those as well. I tend to dislike cartomizers for their lower fill level (but like them for their neatness and ease of use).

 

[Judge Dredd]

I believe the KGO is either a 5v or 6v model, so you would have to get a higher-resistance cartomizer, and that should help, in a nutshell.

 

[jimbill]

You could also try a lower level of nicotine juice you are at 12mg try 10 or 8 i know high nic makes for a not so good vape.

 

[chaos-7]

The standard S.L.B. KGO battery comes off the charger at 4.2 volts and then settles down at about 3.7 volts.

 

[fourthrok]

I don't think you mentioned what kGo version you have? If you have the variable voltage one...you can just dial down your volts to something more like 3.4 or 3.5 and do fine. Stock non VV kGos run pretty hot at 3.7-3.8 and might be a little overwhelming if you are using LR cartomizers. If it turns out you don't have the VV kGo, then you'd probably do better to get a bit higher ohm cartomizer. Ideally 2.5, but they are hard to find. 3 ohm is pretty darn high for a regulated battery, but the kGos do run high, and it might work at least for now until you can get something VV or something that doesn't punch so hard.

 

[Judge Dredd]

The standard S.L.B. KGO battery comes off the charger at 4.2 volts and then settles down at about 3.7 volts.

Are you sure?! I could have sworn that it was five or six!

 

[fredddddie]

Are you sure?! I could have sworn that it was five or six!

You might be thinking of the VV Kgo passthru which fires up at 3.0-6.0. The regular is a 3.7 though

 

[Judge Dredd]

You might be thinking of the VV Kgo passthru which fires up at 3.0-6.0. The regular is a 3.7 though

Perhaps you're right! Thanks!

 

[Valjean]

Thanks so much for your responses. I have a KGO 1100 no VV. I used my banana bread 12mg 80/20 yesterday--and I really do not vape much--and I was up AAALLLL night coughing. I have a feeling the PG is really irritating me. Even with the e cig I was experiencing some irritation, but not this severe. My question is should I cut it to 50/50 or just go to the straight 100% vg juice? Would the 50/50 give me enough relief or am I really just intolerant of the pg? Seriously, my throat was so closed up I could not sleep until dawn. And yes, I drank tons and tons of water. But if I have to follow with this much water--I think I would quit altogether.