Noob first question

[GSSGA671]

How does the actual smoking/vaping process compare? For EXAMPLE: Say it takes me 5 minutes and 20 puffs to smoke a Marlboro Ultra Light cigarette that from what I have read has roughly 1mg of nicotine and I smoke 1 cig every 1-2 hours. Would you vape an e cig the same way that has say an 8mg cart OR would you just take a few puffs and then put it down for an hour or two? Thanks!

 

[Lab]

there is not really a set amount since the way everyone inhales is different.. and the craving for a cig is different since with a cig there is 100's of other chemicals that you are missing in the e-cig.. so it is basically what the user feels that they need.. many get different concentrations of liquid so when they really want a cig they use the high mg to take care of the craving.. and use the lower mg the rest of the time

 

[BongoBob]

I was in the same boat. I was smoking a marlboro red every hour-2hours. I got my joye 510, and i generally take a few puffs, and i feel that i've gotten a small buzz. i'd say that an 8mg cart sounds light. i'm not sure how it compares to the ultralights, but i've been vaping 18mg juice in replacement with my marlb reds, and that seemed fine, nicotine wise.

In order to clarify, the vaping process differs a bit from smoking, because you cant vape for 5 minutes straight most of the time. you'd overheat the atty, i'd think.. Usually two or three puffs will be fine, then let it rest for a bit, and then go again.. I'm still learning as well. this is my fourth day smokeless, and as soon as the atty gets really warm to the touch, i let it relax for a bit.

Hope my response isnt too confusing. Welcome to the forums!

 

[azeis]

I started out a day or two trying to vape the same pattern that I smoked (for 5 min or so every hour). But after a while you just kind of fall into a new routine and vape when you feel like it for much less time.

 

[Happy Domino38]

It all depends on YOU. Vape when you feel like you want to and stop when you think you can. You CAN'T hit a ecig like an analog though, you WILL burn out your atty. And, keep this in mind, make sure you take a LOOONG drag. Should be at least 5 seconds in length. If you're hitting your PV like an analog, you're going to be frustrated. You can check out the 'Inhalation Guide for Newbies' I wrote here...

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/ecf-library/85612-newbies-proper-inhalation-technique.html

Personally, I use between 24-36mg liquids, but I smoked a pack a day of B&H 100's Regular. If you don't feel like you're 'getting enough' or are still REALLY craving an analog, up your nic content. But, keep in mind, if you're vaping a flavor you LOVE, you're going to want to keep the level a BIT lower because you'll be ATTACHED to your PV.

(I'm scheduled for surgery to have my Ego, equipped with Tasty Vapor's Atomic Cinnacide, removed from my hand, but I keep cancelling)

Hope this helps and welcome to the Forum 'Fambly'!!

 

[zoiDman]

How does the actual smoking/vaping process compare? For EXAMPLE: Say it takes me 5 minutes and 20 puffs to smoke a Marlboro Ultra Light cigarette that from what I have read has roughly 1mg of nicotine and I smoke 1 cig every 1-2 hours. Would you vape an e cig the same way that has say an 8mg cart OR would you just take a few puffs and then put it down for an hour or two? Thanks!

Welcome aboard.

The first thing you’ll notice about an e-Cig is that it doesn’t go out like a reg cig. Meaning, there isn’t that built in time limit that a reg cig has before you have to put it out. You can take 70 – 200 hits on an e-Cig (depending on the cartridge/cartomizers and battery) before you have to put it down. It takes some getting used to. I find that I take about 10 or 12 hits and then put it down for 45 minutes or an hour.

I’m not sure why you want to try e-Cigs. Trying to quit. Save Money. Just want to check them out. Everyone is different but I’ll say what I found for me.

I went to e-cigs to quit regular cigarettes. I used to smoke a pack a day. That was about 24mg of nicotine for the brand I used to smoke. When I tried an e-Cig, I started with 8mg cartridges also. There just wasn’t enough kick in the e-cig and I would “cheat” and have 3 or 4 regular cigs during the day. I felt good about not buying as many regular cigarettes though.

But it seemed that I was constantly thinking about regular cigarettes and cheating more an more. After about 3 weeks I was at the point where I was smoking about 12 regular cigs and also vaping with the e-Cig.

This wasn’t right. I was supposed to be trying to quit and now I was taking in MORE nicotine! Time to regroup.

So I tried something. I bought some 24mg e-Juice and tried it. It still wasn’t the same as a regular cigarette but it was much better. Didn’t have that constant “jones” for a regular cigarette as I did using 8mg e-Juice. It kinda donned on me that I was not only addicted to nicotine but also to all the other crap that is in a regular cigarette when you burn it an inhale.

So what it all mean? At least for me.

1) Do some research and ask question before you get an e-Cig. (What type of e-Cig, What type of juice, etc.)

2) Choose your e-Cig nicotine wise close to what you were smoking before.

3) Expect some cravings for reg cigs when you start using an e-Cig.

4) If you are trying to quit, Don’t smoke regular cigs and use an e-Cig together.

Hope some of this helps and let us know what other questions you have.

 

[GSSGA671]

Thank you ALL very much. That's exactly what I wanted to hear. I know there is no direct response and it's different for every one. But I see the differences now and I can play around with it and learn for myself. A few months or so ago I got the Red Dragon ecig but didn't stick with it. I think mainly because I didn't understand it. It seems to be a great product although at the time it seems as though I may have had a faulty cart or two, maybe it was the atomizer I dont' know. As far as the nicotine amount I'll have to get some different ones and also try some different flavors just for kicks and try this again. Trying to quit smoking or at least cut back quite a bit. Smoking is definitely killing me slowly but surely.

 

[zoiDman]

If your trying to quit I’ll give you 3 suggestions,

1) Buy a good e-Cig like a Joye 510. The 510 is a great unit because you can use it with carts and an atomizer. Or you can use it with Cartomizers. Also, parts are available for it everywhere on the Internet. I spent a lot of money trying different types of e-Cigs with so-so results before I got to a Joye 510.

2) Start off with 24mg nicotine.

3) Don’t try to do both reg and e-Cigs at the same time.

Quitting smoking is difficult. No if’s and’s or but’s. Cutting down is NOT quitting. Most people who cut down just torment themselves for a week or two and then go back to smoking a pack a day.

Bite the bullet and just switch to e-Cigs. It will be kinda rocky for about a week but after that, it gets better.

 

[martha1014]

I smoked 3 packs of cigarettes a day so you can assume I vape constantly. The only time I don't vape is when I typing on the computer or doing something else I can't do while vaping. I don't think most of us completely quit cigarettes the first time we vaped. It is a gradual process and will happen eventually. I still smoked a cigarettee a day until it got where they tasted so bad I could not stand them anymore. But go ahead and jump right in.

 

[zoiDman]

One last comment…

E-Juice varies widely in taste and the amount of vapor that is produced. I think VG ( Vegetable Glycerin ) based e-Juice produces the best taste and most resembles real smoke. Most of the e-Juice that come with e-Cig starter kits is poor. You might do a little reading about refilling and e-Juice brands.

Johnson Creek Original Smoke Juice - The Best E-Liquid in the World - Made Right Here in America has a nice line of VG based e-Juice. There PG based e-Juice isn’t bad either.

 

[GSSGA671]

You guys are absolutely right. I have quit before and I quit cold turkey but I was much younger and had alot more will power then. LOL. And yea I was either going to try the higher nic mg carts and flavors for the Red Dragon or just try another e cig altogether. I have looked at the Joye and Green Smoke. The Blu e cig starter kit is very intriguing but then again. So I will look at this 510 more and probably give it a try like you all said with the higher mg carts. Thanks again.

 

[sensay]

You have gotten great advice so far so I just wanted to say welcome

 

[zoiDman]

... The Blu e cig starter kit is very intriguing but then again. So I will look at this 510 more and probably give it a try like you all said with the higher mg carts. Thanks again.

The blu is a very cool looking unit. It was my 2nd e-cig. The price was great and the charging case (PCC) sealed the deal.

But once you get it you realize that the battery life is Terriable and the carts are good for about 10 or 15 hits. Now it sits in the drawer. Still looks cool, just doesn't perform.

Once I got this, Everything else seem like it was second rate.

http://www.cignot.com/product_p/kit-510-pcc.htm

BTW. cignot.com is a great place to buy from. Their prices are good and they ship fast.

 

[Happy Domino38]

One last comment…

E-Juice varies widely in taste and the amount of vapor that is produced. I think VG ( Vegetable Glycerin ) based e-Juice produces the best taste and most resembles real smoke. Most of the e-Juice that come with e-Cig starter kits is poor. You might do a little reading about refilling and e-Juice brands.

Johnson Creek Original Smoke Juice - The Best E-Liquid in the World - Made Right Here in America has a nice line of VG based e-Juice. There PG based e-Juice isn’t bad either.

While VG based liquid DO produce more vapor, I think most people would agree that the taste is slightly dimished with VG, as is TH.

 

[zoiDman]

While VG based liquid DO produce more vapor, I think most people would agree that the taste is slightly dimished with VG, as is TH.

I would probably agree with that.

For me, what I found is the perfect e-Juice is PG based 36mg mixed with VG down to 20mg. I use 4:1 VG to water and then add a couple of drops of flavor concentrate. Good Vapor and Good Throat Hit.

I was thinking that for a newbie it might be a little overwhelming to jump into mixing e-Juice right off the bat. And when I first started e-Cigs, if I didn't see vapor I didn't feel I got a decent hit. That's the reason I suggested starting out with VG based e-Juice. Also, some people's get throught irratation from pure PG.

 

[xjive]

Yup it varies from person to person when im at work on my smoke breaks i'd say I take 5 good big puffes when im at home it my paccifier i'll hit it every 5 mins or so sometime longer sometime less deppends I hit it a lot less when im on world of warcraft but it alot better than chain smoking cigarettes

 

[GSSGA671]

Yup it varies from person to person when im at work on my smoke breaks i'd say I take 5 good big puffes when im at home it my paccifier i'll hit it every 5 mins or so sometime longer sometime less deppends I hit it a lot less when im on world of warcraft but it alot better than chain smoking cigarettes

LOL @ pacifier. I know all to well about gaming too. Thinking of getting into Star Craft in anticipation of Star Craft 2 coming out. My login means Gamestop Sr. Game Adviser store #671. Anyway....

Here's my order so far. Haven't placed it just yet. My Red Dragon is an auto battery. I think I like the idea of a manual battery better. I assume PCC means Personal Carry Case? Anything you think I should get with this order or is this plenty to get started?

Joye 510 NoBox with PCC:
2 complete Joye 510 cigarettes (2 atomizers and 2 batteries), 5 prefilled carts, 1 AC charger, 1 PCC in the color of your choosing and your choice of 2 accessories. Cartridges may be round or whistletip. If you have a preference, please specify in the comments.
color:Matte Black
battery1 led:blue led - manual (PLATINUM body)
battery2 led:blue led - manual (PLATINUM body)
accessory1G Watermelon 5ml 26mg Nicotine
accessory2G Vanilla 5ml 26mg Nicotine
VG Watermelon 26mg 5ml
VG Marlb (USA MIX) 26mg 5ml

 

[zoiDman]

Great Set-Up but I would add one more item.

I would pick up a box of 5 empty cartridges also. They are only like 5 bucks. They come in handy and I hate to pay $5 shipping for a $5 item. Might as well get them now and save on shipping.

Also, you consider getting one manual and one auto battery. The manual batteries are nice and I think that you get a better hit with them. But sometimes I just want to put the e-Cig in my mouth and take a hit. Like when I'm driving.

These are handy too.

Ecig Case

Nice when you just want to run down to the post office or the store for a quick trip. e-Cigs are somewhat tough but I'm allways thinking about crushing one getting in and out of the car or if it is in my pocket wrong when I sit down.

 

[GSSGA671]

Great Set-Up but I would add one more item.

I would pick up a box of 5 empty cartridges also. They are only like 5 bucks. They come in handy and I hate to pay $5 shipping for a $5 item. Might as well get them now and save on shipping.

Also, you consider getting one manual and one auto battery. The manual batteries are nice and I think that you get a better hit with them. But sometimes I just want to put the e-Cig in my mouth and take a hit. Like when I'm driving.

These are handy too.

E cig Case
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Nice when you just want to run down to the post office or the store for a quick trip. e-Cigs are somewhat tough but I'm allways thinking about crushing one getting in and out of the car or if it is in my pocket wrong when I sit down.

Cool. Thank you sir. I actually have one of those cases when I bought that Red Dragon ecig. Think I will adjust my order accordingly and send it.

And thanks again to everyone! You have been awesome.

 

[zoiDman]

No Problem...

I just wish I knew about this site and had asked more questions when I got my first (and 2nd!) e-Cig. Would have saved me a ton of time and money.

Let us know how things turn out and mention to Terri at cignot that you heard about everything on the ECF.