Noob needs HELP on Maximizing flavor

[bluesbishop]

Ok...fairly a noob...but I did spend about three weeks on the forum before I joined just reading and learning, and have spent at least a 4 hours plus a day reading and learning since I joined. ( I'm divorced and nothing but time on my hands!)

Sorry to the mods if this is in the wrong area....but this seemed like the best place to ask.

How does everyone seem to maximize flavor?? My set up includes: The Vapornine AMP XL ( a ego style battery....900mAh ) that I run clearos on...a eGo 1000mAh Twist that I have run clearo (both LR and Standard) and now tanks...( both cart tanks and also the Vivi tanks) and also a eGo VV Mega Adjust 1100 mAh...

ejuices...I have tried several....from the store brand( I'm assuming re-branded Dekang e-juice)..BWB...DarkCity Vapor, and ordering from ahlusions.

I wish I was getting the taste everyone describes! But I have little to no taste...or chemical taste....the BWB ( his malty toffee and caramel cappuccino I am letting steep right now)...and probably wont revisit for at least 2-3 weeks...but my fist clearo of the malty toffee...was terrible...nothing but a chemical taste!

And I know the next things people will say is that it is my taste buds....WRONG....I am a chef and a food blogger with a GREAT sense of taste...I can walk into a restaurant...order anything and be able to pick up all the subtle flavors and come home a replicate it....

So what is your secrets for getting the most flavor??? I like coffee flavors, dessert flavors..some fruits.....I'm giving up on tobacco flavors...LOL

what do you all find as the best ways to get max flavor? longer steeps? different percentages of PG/VG ( when given a choice...I have been ordering 70/30 as this seems the most common) different methods?

I really want to love tanks.... I've seen some of my fav youtube reviewers just really love there tanks...Like Grimm and many others...clearos...Im mixed on....I hit one with 4.8 volts and the flavor was terrible!! Like burnt tires! ( note to self...never hit a LR clearo with 4.8 volts) .... I'm afraid to use clearo on my Variable that goes to 6 volts! LOL....i ordered some higher Resistance clearos to try on it...

Thanks in advance everyone for reading and any input !! on a positive note...even with little to no flavor...I have kicked my 1.5 packs a day PLUS Cigars smoking habit!!

Ken

 

[jimrug1]

Hi Bluesbishop, congrats on your quitting analogs. I am a "self proclaimed" personal chef myself... ;-)~ I cant really offer much advice on maximizing taste because I just vape flavors that taste good to me. I don't really do anything to make them taste better. I have the Ego twist batts and use SR clearos. (2.4 - 2.8) What I can tell you is that they vape best for me around 3.7 volts. I usually get a burnt taste at 4.8V. I also bought a couple of LR clearos and usually vape them at the lowest of my twist settings. (3.2) There is a chef on here who does juice reviews. I have found him quite informative. If someone doesn't beat me to it, I will post his link when I find it... Again Congrats and keep on vaping..

Update.. here is the juice review website: http://www.vaporrater.com/

 

[Orobas]

It could be that no juice, no matter how yummy, will ever match the harshness and intensity of a traditional cigarette. Perhaps your mouth has yet to get over that expectation, regardless of the state of your taste buds. Excellent palette or not, the ones you have are probably still smoke-scorched and it takes a few weeks for them to be replaced.

If you're an ubertaster you may even wind up discovering that you can't handle intensely flavored foods for a while after. I just read somewhere on here that somebody who used to love spicy foods can't take it anymore.

Your milage will vary.

But congratz on kicking the habit, hang in there, baby. meanwhile I need your help recreating the potstickers from the chinese place down the road...

 

[Kopfstimmen]

Hi, and congrats! Vixen vapors offers triple flavor, and does some desserts - I recommend "death by delicious"... If you're a mint person, I liked a few (Seattle & New York) from Vapor Station as well... (To include a few tobaccos, which I'm beginning to like more, oddly enough).
Good luck!

 

[bluesbishop]

...,. meanwhile I need your help recreating the potstickers from the chinese place down the road...

The secret...IMHO is to really grind your own sausage!...that being said...probably 90% of all Chinese place buy them pre-made from either a Asian market or a supply house...and they simply steam, or steam and pan fry......

That being said...this is a great recipe for them! from one of my favorite Chefs, Chef Ming Tsai


1/4 small head Napa cabbage, finely chopped (about 2 cups; 7 ounces)
3/4 teaspoon kosher salt, plus 1/8 teaspoon for seasoning
1/3 pound ground pork (not too lean)
1 tablespoon fresh ginger, minced (from 1/2-inch knob)
1 small carrot, coarsely shredded (about 2 tablespoons)
2 scallions, thinly sliced (about 1/4 cup)
2 cloves garlic, minced (about 2 teaspoons)
1 tablespoon soy sauce
2 teaspoons Asian (toasted) sesame oil
1/2 egg, lightly beaten
1/8 teaspoon freshly ground black pepper
30 gyoza (pot sticker) wrappers, from 1 (14-ounce) package*
1/4 cup canola oil

*Available at Asian markets, gyoza wrappers can also be found in the refrigerated section of many supermarkets. If unavailable, substitute won ton wrappers and cut into 3 1/4-inch rounds.

In large bowl, toss together cabbage and 3/4 teaspoon salt and set aside for 30 minutes. Transfer to clean dish towel or cheesecloth, gather ends together, and twist to squeeze out as much water as possible. Wipe bowl clean, then return cabbage to it. Add pork, ginger, carrots, scallions, and garlic and stir to combine.
In small bowl, whisk together soy sauce, sesame oil, and egg, then stir into cabbage-pork mixture. Stir in pepper and remaining 1/8 teaspoon salt.
On dry surface, lay out 1 gyoza wrapper, keeping remaining wrappers covered with dampened cloth or paper towel. Spoon 1 1/2 teaspoons filling into center, then moisten halfway around edge with wet finger. Fold moisture-free half of wrapper over moistened half to form open half-moon shape. To seal, using thumb and forefinger of one hand, form 6 tiny pleats along unmoistened edge of wrapper, pressing pleats against moistened border to enclose filling. Moistened border will stay smooth and will automatically curve in semicircle. Stand dumpling, seam-side up, on baking sheet and gently press to flatten bottom. Cover loosely with dampened cloth or paper towel. Form remaining dumplings in same manner.

In 10-inch, lidded, non-stick skillet over moderately high heat, heat oil until hot but not smoking, then remove from heat and arrange pot stickers in tight circular pattern standing up in oil (they should touch one another). Cook, uncovered, until bottoms are pale golden, 2 to 3 minutes. Add 1/2 cup water, tilting skillet to distribute, then cover tightly with lid and cook until liquid has evaporated and bottoms of dumplings are crisp and golden, 7 to 10 minutes. Add 2 tablespoons more water if skillet looks dry before bottoms are browned. Remove lid and cook, shaking skillet to loosen pot stickers, until steam dissipates, 1 to 2 minutes. Invert large plate with rim over skillet. Using pot holders, hold plate and skillet together and invert skillet. Remove skillet and serve pot stickers warm.

(Note: I use chicken stock and not water to cook mine)

Dipping Sauce:

Ingredients
1 cup soy sauce
3/4 cup rice wine vinegar
1 1/4 cups water
4 tablespoons dark brown sugar
2 medium scallions, minced
4 teaspoons minced garlic cloves
2 tablespoons toasted sesame oil
2 teaspoons hot red pepper flakes

Directions

1. In a saucepan, heat 2 Tablespoons of toasted sesame oil to medium-high heat. Add scallion, garlic and red pepper flakes. Lower heat to medium and continue stirring about 3 – 5 minutes or until garlic starts browning.
2. Increase heat to high and stir in Soy Sauce, Vinegar and water and bring to a boil.
3. Add dark brown sugar and stir until sugar is dissolved.
4. Lower heat to low and cook for 10 minutes, stirring often.

Cool and serve with pot stickers....great as a sauce with nearly any Chinese dish

 

[bluesbishop]

Hi, and congrats! Vixen vapors offers triple flavor, and does some desserts - I recommend "death by delicious"... If you're a mint person, I liked a few (Seattle & New York) from Vapor Station as well... (To include a few tobaccos, which I'm beginning to like more, oddly enough).
Good luck!

Hmm...maybe additional flavor is what I'm seeking.... and will have to try....I have been sticking with what appears to be the most loved juices on this forum....but Im really not getting much, if any flavor....

 

[ImThatGuy]

As you know, favored flavor is subject to preference. I suggest sampling liquids until you get satisfaction. Tastebuds will come back in time so those juices you may think is bleh may later on be just right.

 

[Kopfstimmen]

Bluebishop - why am I suddenly feeling the need for Chinese??? LOL

 

[zuzette]

try not inhaling into your lungs hold it in your mouth and blow out your nose. Thats how i get the best flavor.

 

[Orobas]

Thanks for the recipe, buddy.

You know, thinking about it? I think the ones at China Garden are my favorite primarily because they ARE fresh. They aren't dried out and overcooked like a meatball in a pasta shell like everybody else's. It's moist and wonderful, even though some of them "blow out" or fall apart.

I'll have to try to make my own soon, but not right now. My .... is still kicked from perogies the other day

 

[klynnn]

I had the same problem with juice it just didn't taste right to me so I got into Diy. It takes a bit of research but it's well worth the effort. Wow it is so much cheaper since you can have any flavor on hand.

 

[klynnn]

Now if you have a good recipe for hot and sour soup I'm all ears.

 

[Swampey65]

Hi Ken,

I got news for ya...your taste buds are diminished...whether you are just a cigar smoker or not. Wait two months and you're gonna see how much more you enjoy your profession! While I don't doubt you can taste everything you put in your mouth...you have a flavor EXPLOSION coming your way in a month or so!

Yes, w/ regards to different clearo's/atty's and carto's - Ohm resistance has a lot to do with how many volts you should run 'em at but I can tell by your post that you've already started to figure that out.

Also for flavor "enhancement", I think you may wanna look at one of the rebuidable atomizer's when it comes to just pure connoisseurial enjoyment of flavors. If you don't want to or can't spend the big bucks on units like the Zenisis etc. then check out units like the Griifin or the VZ 510 or even the phoenix rebuildable. You'll have to learn about making stainless steel mesh wicks and coils, using a voltage meter etc. But if you're a Chef, you already have one of the tools required (Creme Broulee torch etc.) and it's not hard at all to learn how to make them. Actually, they sell pre-made wicks/coils for all of these if you aren't the "fiddle with stuff" type of person. I have found that using these items gives you a true taste of the e-juice you're using.

Good Luck and welcome to Vapeland...

 

[bluesbishop]

I've been swapping back and forth between various liquids today...blueberry, mocha cappuccino, kona coffee...and clearo that had some malty toffee that hasn't really steeped enough yet....the most taste im getting is from the blueberry...but not as much taste as much smells like a blueberry candle.......

Maybe I need more kick from higher nicotine? ( I current vap 11-12mg)....maybe something sweeter?? Maybe my expectations on what these flavors should taste like vaped isn't a real expectation????

just letting hoping that steeping of all of the bottles before me ( up to 18 right now!...and more on the way!) brings out more of what I am expecting

 

[MorpheusPA]

I've found that most flavors seem (to me) to be a bit muted, particularly if you vape it for a while. Much like eating pretzels, I can't say I'd notice the flavor at the 20th anything like I did at the first.

One flavor I like and seems quite strong is Lorann's Bubble Gum. It mixes well with most mints, many fruits, and menthol.

TFA's Raspberry does it for me as well.

High percentage menthols have a heck of a kick to them (I had to dilute mine down from 10% to 5% as I was coughing on it).

But again, you get used to them. Maybe try switching between flavors every few puffs for a bit to see if that's your issue as well?

 

[Buggs5347]

It really doesn't matter whether you are a pro chef or not. It's a weird phenomenon that your tastebuds go through. For me, it hit at about 3 or 4 weeks. I couldn't taste any vape much at all. Most everything tasted the same. I might as well have been vaping unflavored nic juice. Yet, all food tasted and smelled the same as always. It took about 2 or 3 more weeks for it to clear up. A lot of it has to do with dehydration - so make sure you are drinking a lot of water-more than you think. Also, chewing cinnamon gum helped a bit.

To me, clearos mute the flavor even more. I prefer cartomizers. Dripping gives probably the most intense flavor. But, none of it is much flavor when the tastebuds decide to take a dump like that. Water, water, water.

 

[Cyrene]

If you like taste, go to MadVapes and get some flavor extracts. High potency flavors - no nic though, so you
will need to add it to a flavor, I'm a menthol lover, so I add a few drops to my menthol. A good coffee one
is Hazelnut Coffee by Vape Dudes.That one is a really strong flavored one also. As a matter of fact, most of Vape Dudes I've had
are pretty strongly flavored - good stuff.

I have had the opposite problem, too strong of a taste, until I mix it with something else.

 

[tnt56]

Welcome and congrats on quitting the analogs. All I ask for is a juice that taste just like my chili that i make. LOL For real I've been vaping for a little over a month..(wow didn't realize that till now). I'm to the point that everything taste like dog poo. (But I'm also sick and cant taste or smell anything right now). Just keep trying and doing the experments with juice, voltage and etc. I can only wish you the best of luck. I just put in orders from 3 different vendors to try and find something. I like my ry4 but right now nothing taste good.

 

[Jfish]

Malty toffee may be too thick for a clearo! That may be why you are not getting a good flavor from it! I tried it in cartos and clearos with no luck.... Your best bet for flavor is a good quality atomizer! Try an i06 of my favorite an aero from avid! Good luck!

 

[donnah]

If you can't find a flavor that you like.. why not try some unflavored juice. I've read where many couldn't find what they were looking for and then found it in plain ole' unflavored juice.