Noob Questions...hoping I can get some help.

[Taylor7617]

Guess I need to start in the New Members Forum, hoping I get a response. The wife and I started vaping just about 5 months ago and have been off actual cigs since late March. As we were both 1+ pk a day smokers, this is now saving us a TON of $$$$ as well as improving our health - we don't hack as much and food tastes much better! Thanks to whomever invented this little beauties.

Now, I've scoured this forum for weeks before deciding to make this post. Basically this is to start my 5post count and clear up some issues that have risen.

We began our journey using eGo-C Twist 1000 mah with Kanger T2 top fill clearomizers. Have worked well, but the damn clearomizers have had a tendency to leak out the bottom (connection point to the battery) as well as crack and frost over. Thanks to this site, found out the cracking and frosting is due to the fluid - Cinnamon's and citrus flavors. Still not sure why we are getting the leaking out the bottom. So......onto my questions:

1) Local retailer we started with is using 2.4-2.6 ohm coils (atomizers). Any benefit to using something different such as 1.8 ohm? Not sure I fully understand how this matches with the battery which allows me to tweak voltage between 3.2 and 4.8v.

2) Thinking about trying a Bottom filler such as the evod...pls confirm is this made of polycarb which will crack?

3) Found alot of threads on the Kanger ProTank (version 1 and 2). By reading, these are a different type of tube which should resist cracking, right?? Also, this is a clearomizer which uses wics...correct?

4) Is there anything out there similar to the Kanger ProTank but slimmer....like the T2 top fill I'm using. I've seen pics of the ProTank on an eGo and it doesn't look bad....just strange.



Once these basics are cleared up, I'll get into more questions about the other unknown's for me...the mechanical units such as Zmax, eVic or Provari. Wife saw them at a local shop and wants one.....just not sure why and if they are that much different than what we are currently using.


Thanks to the ECF community

 

[AttyPops]

That ohm range is OK for a VV battery. As to other delivery device, it's best to try several and see what you prefer. I know that's not much of an answer, but otherwise all you'll get is 20 different opinions and will still end up doing the same thing and then saying ____ was correct.

A lot of it is personal preference. Some are less leaky or burn-prone than others, but it's about getting good with stuff too.

If you insist on using tank-cracking juices....maybe research glass/pyrex tanks.

 

[SilverZero]

1. If you have a variable voltage device you should be fine whether you are using 1.8 or 2.6 ohm coils. I usually shoot for around 2.0 ohms and have no issues.

2. The EVOD is plastic, so if your juices are cracking tanks then the same will happen with the EVOD.

3. The Protank is essentially the same as the EVOD, but the tank itself is Pyrex. That will eliminate the cracking problem (unless you drop it on a hard surface, of course).

4. There is a Protank Mini (and soon a Protank Mini 2). Same setup but with a smaller form factor and smaller capacity. It would probably look better on an eGo, but that's personal preference.

 

[Robino1]

Some I can answer and some I can't. So with that said, and I will be corrected if I'm wrong.

The different ohm's used to be for when we didn't have the capability to dial up or down the power. Now that variable voltages are in the picture, it's not the issue it used to be. I generally order the 2.4 replacement heads for my clearomizer.

I'm not familiar with what the Evod is made out of.

The Protanks I do believe are glass and are good with tank destroying liquids. Yes they are clearomizers and they do have wicks. The difference is they are bottom coils. Unlike the Vivi Nova which is a top coil clearo (clearomizer).

They will be releasing the Kanger Protank mini2 which would be slimmer than the regular one.

Again, this is just what I've observed in the threads. I am the most familiar with the Nova.

Welcome to ECF

 

[Thunderball]

1. If you have a variable voltage device you should be fine whether you are using 1.8 or 2.6 ohm coils. I usually shoot for around 2.0 ohms and have no issues.

2. The EVOD is plastic, so if your juices are cracking tanks then the same will happen with the EVOD.

3. The Protank is essentially the same as the EVOD, but the tank itself is Pyrex. That will eliminate the cracking problem (unless you drop it on a hard surface, of course).

4. There is a Protank Mini (and soon a Protank Mini 2). Same setup but with a smaller form factor and smaller capacity. It would probably look better on an eGo, but that's personal preference.

Good advice. Get a Protank mini. It s size will match up with your ego. Its a good tank.

 

[nomoe]

protank and davide are glass

 

[Frankenmizer]

protank and davide are glass

And so is the ProTank 2

and it looks like Kanger is coming out with a ProTank2 Mini:

 

[cckk]

Taylor7617,

Once these basics are cleared up, I'll get into more questions about the other unknown's for me...the mechanical units such as Zmax, eVic or Provari. Wife saw them at a local shop and wants one.....just not sure why and if they are that much different than what we are currently using.

Zmax, eVic, and Provari aren’t mechanical but electronically controlled MODs. Mechanical is for example Smoktech The Natural. All those devices use big batteries and look well with the atomizers using big tanks.

They are basically for the former heavy or chain smokers because you may fill 3 ml tank with a liquid, use 18650 3400 mAh battery and vape that for a day or half depending on the scale of your previous smoking addiction.

The difference between electronically controlled MODs and mechanical ones is that the first allow to change the voltage or the wattage of the device on the fly influencing the taste of the vapor and staying with the same power while the device drains the battery.

Your wife smoked about one packet of cigarettes so such a device isn’t necessary for her though she can buy it of course if she likes the look and feel features of those devices (or you can buy that for her).

 

[Taylor7617]

1. If you have a variable voltage device you should be fine whether you are using 1.8 or 2.6 ohm coils. I usually shoot for around 2.0 ohms and have no issues.

2. The EVOD is plastic, so if your juices are cracking tanks then the same will happen with the EVOD.

3. The Protank is essentially the same as the EVOD, but the tank itself is Pyrex. That will eliminate the cracking problem (unless you drop it on a hard surface, of course).

4. There is a Protank Mini (and soon a Protank Mini 2). Same setup but with a smaller form factor and smaller capacity. It would probably look better on an eGo, but that's personal preference.

Nice and thorough, many thanks!!

 

[Taylor7617]

Taylor7617,



Zmax, eVic, and Provari aren’t mechanical but electronically controlled MODs. Mechanical is for example Smoktech The Natural. All those devices use big batteries and look well with the atomizers using big tanks.

They are basically for the former heavy or chain smokers because you may fill 3 ml tank with a liquid, use 18650 3400 mAh battery and vape that for a day or half depending on the scale of your previous smoking addiction.

The difference between electronically controlled MODs and mechanical ones is that the first allow to change the voltage or the wattage of the device on the fly influencing the taste of the vapor and staying with the same power while the device drains the battery.

Your wife smoked about one packet of cigarettes so such a device isn’t necessary for her though she can buy it of course if she likes the look and feel features of those devices (or you can buy that for her).

Appreciate the clarification. Yeah, we were both 1 pack+ a day smokers......in the process of trying to quit, went from Marlboro reds to other brands (cost impact) but eventually were down to ultra lights but still a pack plus a day. Never were able to kick the habit until we were told about ecigs and vaping from a friend.

I guess, outside of the look.....is there really THAT much of a difference from what we are currently using eGo-C Twist? I suspect those can have more output (volts / wattage) and that may have an impact, maybe?. Just not sure if there is a benefit outside of the fact that she "like how they look & feel versus the eGo".

 

[Borescoped]

Guess I need to start in the New Members Forum, hoping I get a response. The wife and I started vaping just about 5 months ago and have been off actual cigs since late March. As we were both 1+ pk a day smokers, this is now saving us a TON of $$$$ as well as improving our health - we don't hack as much and food tastes much better! Thanks to whomever invented this little beauties..

Yup, everyone starts here, and many continue to hang out here, even the grizzled ECF vets... they hand out good advice, even if it is slightly cryptic at the time. Once you gain more experience yourself, you'll understand them even better! Congratz to you and your wife for quitting, and you can thank the Chinese for that!

Now, I've scoured this forum for weeks before deciding to make this post. Basically this is to start my 5post count and clear up some issues that have risen..

Yup, everyone's gotta do their time here, and lurking the ECF forums is not a bad use of your time, if you are gaining knowledge that will help you and your wife out. 5 posts come really fast, especially if you participate in your own threads.

We began our journey using eGo-C Twist 1000 mah with Kanger T2 top fill clearomizers. Have worked well, but the damn clearomizers have had a tendency to leak out the bottom (connection point to the battery) as well as crack and frost over. Thanks to this site, found out the cracking and frosting is due to the fluid - Cinnamon's and citrus flavors. Still not sure why we are getting the leaking out the bottom. So......onto my questions:.

Twists are good to start with (don't own any myself, but many swear by that style of ego batts. Personally, I haven't bought/used Kanger T2's, just went straight for the evods and beyond. Cracking/frosting due to citrus/cinnamons/clove/some mints/ect is true. I couldn't tell you why you might leak out the bottome of the T2 though, perhaps someone else with experience with those will chime in.

1) Local retailer we started with is using 2.4-2.6 ohm coils (atomizers). Any benefit to using something different such as 1.8 ohm? Not sure I fully understand how this matches with the battery which allows me to tweak voltage between 3.2 and 4.8v.

As others stated, nothing wrong with the 1.8 thru 2.6 ohm coils if you have a twist/spinner, as you can adjust the performance (READ: voltage output) to meet your needs. Also, keep in mind that even with the same setting on the twist, and the same coil resistance, different juices might require different voltage outputs to get the flavor your want, or the vapor production you expect.

2) Thinking about trying a Bottom filler such as the evod...pls confirm is this made of polycarb which will crack?

Pretty sure evods are polycarb. I had one develop a hairline crack at the bottom of one of the plastic sight panels due to an orange flavor (and being ignorant at the time). Now, not all plastic tanks are bad for cracking juices. Polypropylene plastics can withstand those cracking/frosting types of juices w/out a problem. If you want the ultimate in protection from reactions to ejuices, go with pyrex glass tanks, or stainless steel tanks (downside to the metal ones is the lack of a sight glass to view how much juice is left, but is not a bad tradeoff as long as you pay attention to the device and how it tastes.)

3) Found alot of threads on the Kanger ProTank (version 1 and 2). By reading, these are a different type of tube which should resist cracking, right?? Also, this is a clearomizer which uses wics...correct?

Kanger Protanks are made with pyrex glass, and should hold up to anything you throw at it, except objects that break glass. Yes, they do have a coil wrapped around 1 thin wick, and then have two more thin wicks placed over the coil. Pbusardo has a good video on the evod bottom coil rebuilds, and the protank uses the same style BCC heads. Check out the video on his site, tasteyourjuice.com.

4) Is there anything out there similar to the Kanger ProTank but slimmer....like the T2 top fill I'm using. I've seen pics of the ProTank on an eGo and it doesn't look bad....just strange.

Yup, as others have said, the Kanger Mini Protank, or also new Smoktech Pyrex Aro should be what you are looking for.

Hope that helps some!

 

[Borescoped]

Appreciate the clarification. Yeah, we were both 1 pack+ a day smokers......in the process of trying to quit, went from Marlboro reds to other brands (cost impact) but eventually were down to ultra lights but still a pack plus a day. Never were able to kick the habit until we were told about ecigs and vaping from a friend.

I guess, outside of the look.....is there really THAT much of a difference from what we are currently using eGo-C Twist? I suspect those can have more output (volts / wattage) and that may have an impact, maybe?. Just not sure if there is a benefit outside of the fact that she "like how they look & feel versus the eGo".

The twist batteries are supposed to be a good starter battery, for size, weight and adjustability. The higher end APV's give you even more options and flexibility. One big benefit can be you can pick the size (mah rating) of the li-on batteries you use, therefor being able to use the APV for days instead of hours. Some are more sturdy also.

 

[Steam Turbine]

I guess, outside of the look.....is there really THAT much of a difference from what we are currently using eGo-C Twist? I suspect those can have more output (volts / wattage) and that may have an impact, maybe?. Just not sure if there is a benefit outside of the fact that she "like how they look & feel versus the eGo".

It's not only the looks.

The z max, provari etc, offers you better battery life, better built quality (way more rugged), permits you to check the remaining power of your battery and check the atomizer resistance and offers you a broader volatge/wattage spectrum.

 

[SilverZero]

It's not only the looks.

The z max, provari etc, offers you better battery life, better built quality (way more rugged), permits you to check the remaining power of your battery and check the atomizer resistance and offers you a broader volatge/wattage spectrum.

That, and the batteries can be replaced if they ever go bad. That's not really an option on an eGo, and the internal battery inside will fail eventually. That said, eGo's aren't that expensive and if it's working for you keep at it.

 

[yaypudding]

if your getting good flavor and are satisfied with the throat hit and vapor and generally satisfied with the "smoking experience" then I would just get some more ego batteries and some protanks and you should be good. If it's up your alley, you can even learn how to replace the coils on the protank and save yourself some significant money vs. buying replacements.

 

[Taylor7617]

Yup, everyone starts here, and many continue to hang out here, even the grizzled ECF vets... they hand out good advice, even if it is slightly cryptic at the time. Once you gain more experience yourself, you'll understand them even better! Congratz to you and your wife for quitting, and you can thank the Chinese for that!



Yup, everyone's gotta do their time here, and lurking the ECF forums is not a bad use of your time, if you are gaining knowledge that will help you and your wife out. 5 posts come really fast, especially if you participate in your own threads.



Twists are good to start with (don't own any myself, but many swear by that style of ego batts. Personally, I haven't bought/used Kanger T2's, just went straight for the evods and beyond. Cracking/frosting due to citrus/cinnamons/clove/some mints/ect is true. I couldn't tell you why you might leak out the bottome of the T2 though, perhaps someone else with experience with those will chime in.



As others stated, nothing wrong with the 1.8 thru 2.6 ohm coils if you have a twist/spinner, as you can adjust the performance (READ: voltage output) to meet your needs. Also, keep in mind that even with the same setting on the twist, and the same coil resistance, different juices might require different voltage outputs to get the flavor your want, or the vapor production you expect.



Pretty sure evods are polycarb. I had one develop a hairline crack at the bottom of one of the plastic sight panels due to an orange flavor (and being ignorant at the time). Now, not all plastic tanks are bad for cracking juices. Polypropylene plastics can withstand those cracking/frosting types of juices w/out a problem. If you want the ultimate in protection from reactions to ejuices, go with pyrex glass tanks, or stainless steel tanks (downside to the metal ones is the lack of a sight glass to view how much juice is left, but is not a bad tradeoff as long as you pay attention to the device and how it tastes.)



Kanger Protanks are made with pyrex glass, and should hold up to anything you throw at it, except objects that break glass. Yes, they do have a coil wrapped around 1 thin wick, and then have two more thin wicks placed over the coil. Pbusardo has a good video on the evod bottom coil rebuilds, and the protank uses the same style BCC heads. Check out the video on his site, tasteyourjuice.com.



Yup, as others have said, the Kanger Mini Protank, or also new Smoktech Pyrex Aro should be what you are looking for.

Hope that helps some!

Thanks, just what I needed to know

 

[Taylor7617]

It's not only the looks.

The z max, provari etc, offers you better battery life, better built quality (way more rugged), permits you to check the remaining power of your battery and check the atomizer resistance and offers you a broader volatge/wattage spectrum.

Makes sense, appreciate all the quick and informative replies. Great forum....glad I found this place!!

 

[Taylor7617]

if your getting good flavor and are satisfied with the throat hit and vapor and generally satisfied with the "smoking experience" then I would just get some more ego batteries and some protanks and you should be good. If it's up your alley, you can even learn how to replace the coils on the protank and save yourself some significant money vs. buying replacements.

Yup, believe I can replace the coils. Saw a YouTube vid on that and does't appear much different than what I'm already doing on the Kanger T2 top fill tank that we are currently using.

 

[Steam Turbine]

this is now saving us a TON of $$$$

This can easily go the other way depending on how much of a vaping maniac you'll become.

This thing is 3000$.... no typos here.

 

[Rickajho]

Welcome!

Regarding the T2 leaking issue, check out this thread for a pretty healthy discussion of T2 issues & fixes => http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/clearomizers/338237-kanger-t2-leak-how.html