Not getting enough nicotine, must be doing something wrong

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Colubrid

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I read comments from former 2-3 pad smokers saying 18-24mg/ml was to strong for them. I have tried both those strengths and feel nothing at all. I was a 2-3 pad smoker myself. I always took quick drags never holding the smoke in long and I use my pv the same way. I ordered some 30mg and 36mg it's on the way. Does this sound safe considering my vapping style? I just spoke to another juice vender that said they don't go over 24mg because it's dangerous. I tried changing my inhale style, but after 25 years of smoking it's hard to do.
 

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I just spoke to another juice vender that said they don't go over 24mg because it's dangerous
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That's absolute B.S. in capitals. I and many others began on 36 mg nic juice because it was what I/ we needed....and I was 44 years 1 PAD smoker and if 36 mg was "dangerous" you can be sure vendors would not be selling it. It also depends on the PV/ battery (volts) you're using and the cartos/ clearos (ohms) attached to it.
 
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I always took quick drags never holding the smoke in long and I use my pv the same way.

This is your main problem. You will get little nicotine vaping like you smoked. You get your nicotine from your lungs smoking cigarettes. You mostly get it from your mouth and nose vaping, vapor molecules are much bigger than smoke molecules and aren't absorbed in the lungs as readily. Take long, slow draws, 6 to 7 seconds is not too long, roll it around in your mouth before you draw it into the lungs, exhale through the mouth and nose.
 

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Yeah. You guys are correct.

That said.... I (almost immediately) decided that the "long slow drag" crap was crap. So I went strait to 5 volt vaping on 3.0 ish ohm atomizers and dripping. Never really looked back. Of course, now it's VV and all that. But still... A full real hit without all that other low-power stuff. And dripping allows me to keep the coil cool/wet and get a full vape.

This is partly why I asked about hardware. All ecigs need a certain amount of juice and enough heat to function properly. If the juice is not atomized well...nic fits and harsh vapes (or burning, or other issues). So basically, that's the challenge with e-cigs....it has to function well from A to Z. It's not that hard...but it takes time and learning curve. YOU CAN DO IT. And there are a lot of options. But...you have to educate yourself. It is worth it. Your health is worth it. But it isn't going to be as easy as smoking was.

You may wish to consider VV devices so you can adjust it. Also, some atomizers/cartos wick juice better than others. Some are warmer too. Top coil CEx's are warmer but have wicking issues. Atomizers and dripping are best, but are labor intensive. Tanks have a fiddle factor. To each their own.
 

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I Use an ego-c type b with a 1000 twist battery and a LR atomizer. Just the way it came with the 2ml tank. I keep the battery turned down almost all the way or I get a burnt taste. I bought a couple of drip tips but haven't used them yet. Should I just take the tank out pop the drip tip on, put a couple of drops straight down the drip tip and fire it up?
 

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Well, I don't know that atty...someone that has one will have to chime in about dripping unless you just go ahead and try it.

The idea is to drip enough to wet it...but not flood it. For example, with a standard atomizer, I drip 3 drops, vape about 10 hits, drip 3, vape 10, drip 3........

But IDK about that setup. If it's a carto in a tank it will have holes in it. Maybe you could tape em up, fill with syringe to make sure it's wet and vape. Once you burn em, they are toast. Give it a sec between vapes to wick the juice. Also may need to thin juice.
 

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You would use low voltage with an LR atomizer. So that's probably OK. You could try bumping it up a notch, but only if you can keep it wet. If it is a wicking issue, it will get too dry and burn.

It's the old "boiling water in a paper cup" thing...evaporative cooling. Once the water boils out of the cup and it gets too dry...it burns.
 

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I Use an ego-c type b with a 1000 twist battery and a LR atomizer. Just the way it came with the 2ml tank. I keep the battery turned down almost all the way or I get a burnt taste. I bought a couple of drip tips but haven't used them yet. Should I just take the tank out pop the drip tip on, put a couple of drops straight down the drip tip and fire it up?

Personally, I'd do what others have suggested...take longer and slower pulls. Due to the delivery method, you're not going to absorb as much nicotine as you would smoking. Vapor particulates are far larger than smoke particulates and won't penetrate as deep into the lungs. To get the most out of the nicotine, you need to pull it in slower and longer...let it linger in the mouth a bit...inhale...and personally, I blow out through the nose a lot. This way, I have as many mucous membranes as possible absorbing the nicotine.

Conversely, you probably would get a more direct hit from dripping...that's what I've heard, but haven't tried it yet.
 

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take long slow drags of vapor
quick puffs don't cut it no matter what gear you have.
the nic is absorbed through the mucosa...a quick puff wont let the nic have enough contact to be absorbed.

You HAVE to change the way you inhale. The smoke from a cig is much finer (smaller) then water vapor and gets into all the small nicks and crannies of the lungs where water vapor can't get to. The quick drag will not even get the coil hot enough to work correctly and you will never get enough nic no matter how high a mg you get. You need to suck it baby, suck it long but not hard and let it stay in your mouth a little while, where it can be absorbed. Then inhale and exhale out your nose. Try the new AC9 from Vapinaze or any good steel wick setup, this will give you the best nic delivery. Good luck
 

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I read comments from former 2-3 pad smokers saying 18-24mg/ml was to strong for them. I have tried both those strengths and feel nothing at all. I was a 2-3 pad smoker myself. I always took quick drags never holding the smoke in long and I use my pv the same way. I ordered some 30mg and 36mg it's on the way. Does this sound safe considering my vapping style? I just spoke to another juice vender that said they don't go over 24mg because it's dangerous. I tried changing my inhale style, but after 25 years of smoking it's hard to do.

Hi Colubrid,

I started out with 36mg. It will not hurt you. Especially the way you vape. I did the same. Kind of stemmed from having ten min breaks at work and trying to get two cigs in before going inside.... ;-)~ (Hot boxing to get as much nic in your lungs a possible) As others have said, slow down. Do a slower inhale and exhale it slowly out through your nose. I have found that the standard resistance clearomizers and cartomizers (2.4 - 3.0) worked better on my twists. I can crank them up to the high 4s and get a good throat hit. I promise you the 36mg will do the trick if you give it a chance. After a couple of weeks, I found 36mg, with the way I vape, was a little much but I needed it to get me off analogs initially. If you chain vape (you will) like me, you will be looking to reduce you nic down a little. That is if you want to sleep....;-) I am 3 months in and down to 18mg now. You can do it. It takes a while to realize vaping is not exactly like smoking but, when done correctly can be a satisfying substitute.... Keep on Keepin on....
 
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