Not impressed with mini Protank. Need more intensity

[EL Pistoffo]

I just received my first mod today, an eGo-c Twist and mini-Protank. Up until now I had been using a V2 e-cig with their small re-fillable tanks. I setup my new kit and tried some new e-juices I received today as well. First try was Tribeca from Halo. Drawing from the mini Protank seemed too airy. The vapor was plenty but the flavor and throat hit was muted. My V2 gave me more intense, concentrated hits. I then tried out Torque 56 and Mystic, same deal. Im not liking these flavors as of now. I then tried the mint e-juice i'd been using on my V2, same results, airy, weak hits. I have 2 mini-protanks and tried both with same results. I varied the voltage from 3.2 to 4.2 with the best results coming from around 3.8-4.0v. The coil should be a 2.2 ohm.

I'd heard other protest about the same deficiency with these tanks. Maybe it's just a personal preference. I do have a MVP 2 coming in the mail. It's equipped with an iClear30. I'm hoping it has tighter draws and more oomph to it. Any other tanks that could be recommended that would better suit my needs? I'm hoping it's the performance of, or lack of, the tank thats giving me a dissatisfaction with these new e-juices.

All my e-juices are 18mg 80/20 PG/VG.

Thanks

 

[VapingTurtle]

It's a journey... you'll find just what is right for you.

I like the ProTanks that you don't like. But I like the Aspire dual coil line even better. Maybe google them.

A top coil clearo should give you more TH, but I never found one that gave me the flavor that I like.

I use mostly traditional filler cartos (Boge). Maybe try them and if you like the taste, move on to a carto tank (DCT) for more convenience.



The first person that suggests a rebuildable to this new vaper should be banned.

 

[vaperature]

I have three minis. I must say they are finicky. You can't screw them together too tightly and you can't screw them together too loosely. But they are a cheap tank. I don't have a lot to compare them too but I am getting the larger protank soon by mail so will be able to test them out against that.

 

[EL Pistoffo]

I just cleaned my protank and tried another flavor I used to use before. Tastes Horrible. It's getting worse and its making me feel sick. ...?

I'm going to throw on a new coil and see what that gets me. My little cheapie V2 tanks were top coil. I may have to get something like that for my eGo. I was actually enjoying my V2 more than this, it's crazy.
And I had such high hopes.

The carto route is an option.

 

[vaperature]

Yep, they are very finicky little contraptions. Yesterday I couldn't get a single one of them to work right for the life of me. Today I have all of them working perfectly. I have no idea why.

 

[EL Pistoffo]

Id rather use an all metal, rugged tank. I nearly cross threaded my tank just now.

I threw on a new coil but I'm going to have a wait a while to try it, i'm feeling really sick to my stomach right now. I might puke if I take another vape.

 

[CloudZ]

You might be sensitive to PG of you are feeling sick from the high pg juices. Try 50/50 to see if there is any improvement.

I believe the V2 kits use cartomizers, but I could be wrong. If they are cartos and they are working better for you better than the clearomizer you've tried, it might be good to try a carto tank on the ego twist. Everyone has their preference on what juice delivery system they like best.. I recommend single coil cartos in a tank to start.

Also, your questions are quite general and primarily issues beginners have, so you might have better luck with responses in the new member forum. This forum is mostly for big battery (or replaceable battery) mods.

 

[EL Pistoffo]

You might be sensitive to PG of you are feeling sick from the high pg juices. Try 50/50 to see if there is any improvement.

I believe the V2 kits use cartomizers, but I could be wrong. If they are cartos and they are working better for you better than the clearomizer you've tried, it might be good to try a carto tank on the ego twist. Everyone has their preference on what juice delivery system they like best.. I recommend single coil cartos in a tank to start.

Also, your questions are quite general and primarily issues beginners have, so you might have better luck with responses in the new member forum. This forum is mostly for big battery (or replaceable battery) mods.

I can no longer post new threads in the new member forum, I'm not considered new enough I guess.

I don't think its PG sensitivity, I've been using high PG mixes since the beginning. I actually still have a burnt taste from the Tribec flavor stuck up my nose. It's nauseating. I've had to rinse with Listerine like 4 times.

I'm going to give it another shot with a new coil. I may have cross flavors on the old coils. My cleaning them in between flavor changes may not have been sufficient and I may have burned the original coils.

The V2 does sell a small clearomizer. I was using those.

A question I have regarding Carto's and tanks, when switching e-juice flavors , does the carto need to be changed as well or can it be cleaned and reused with a different juice?

 

[spaceballsrules]

A question I have regarding Carto's and tanks, when switching e-juice flavors , does the carto need to be changed as well or can it be cleaned and reused with a different juice?

You will want a separate carto-tank for each flavor. Switching flavors in the same tank will lead to flavor leeching.

Also, I suggest giving those Halo flavors a second chance. I have not tried Mystic, but Tribeca and Torque56 are great flavors and pack a punch, especially Torque56. I also started with V2 flavors, and trust me, Halo has waaaay better flavors. I suggest letting the bottles breathe for a day, and then letting them steep for at least a few days, if not a few weeks, before passing judgement. Also, your pains dealing with the PT Mini have a lot to do with it.

I suggest trying just cartomizers, without a tank, first. I personally use Kanger cartos that I get from MYVaporStore, and they have served me well for almost 2 years now. I also tried Boge cartos, and although the flavor is great when they work, I had trouble with quality consistency, and because the coil is a vertical design, they needed to stay topped off or else they would burn. I never tried Smoktech cartos, but others have praised them quite a lot here on ECF. Good quality and a consistent vape. I have started using Kanegr EVODs recently, which are very similar to the PT Mini, and when they work, they are great, but they can be fidgity, so I feel your pain. Sometimes, they just make certain flavors taste completely off, and these are flavors that sing in my Kanger cartos.

If you go the carto-tank route, look into IBTanked tanks, and check out the pre-punched cartos at IKenVape. Arguable, the best vape you can get anywhere. Otherwise check out the Smoktech DCT tanks with Smoktech cartos.

 

[Fury83]

The first person that suggests a rebuildable to this new vaper should be banned.

There are some easy rebuildables that I wish I had bought and skipped the clearo stage. None that I would strap on an ego c though.

 

[Davinna]

I just cleaned my protank and tried another flavor I used to use before. Tastes Horrible. It's getting worse and its making me feel sick. ...?

I'm going to throw on a new coil and see what that gets me. My little cheapie V2 tanks were top coil. I may have to get something like that for my eGo. I was actually enjoying my V2 more than this, it's crazy.
And I had such high hopes.

The carto route is an option.

I started with a Mini Protank II and now have a "full-size" Protank II. It took me 3 weeks to realize how to hit off of these. I was lung inhaling and was causing my wicks to burn. After a day of working on mouth inhaling from these tanks the performance improved greatly. My wicks aren't burning anymore and the flavor has been wonderful.

I hope you can solve you're problem.

 

[Criticalmass]

remove a flavor wick.

The problem is not with the tanks. The heads are not very consistent. I recently received several new packs of heads that are supposed to be rated at 1.8ohms, I had some that rated as high as 2.8. Some had 1 flavor wick strand and some had up to 4.

I just recoil them for consistency and have had no issues at all.

 

[EL Pistoffo]

I tried again today with new coil assemblies and it was better. Tried my mint which i'm familiar with and though still too airy and with slightly muted flavor, it was vapeable. I had to block one of the ProTanks airholes to make it acceptable. I also gave a mint green tea flavor I received today a try, not bad at all. I will be trying my new iClear30 soon enough.

 

[Moonswanni]

Going from the Halo G6 to the larger Triton (eGo style) was a big step for me. I wasn't fond of the drawl or lack of heat intensity; I was expecting the Triton to be more heat intensive not less. So I put the Triton in a drawer for a month and was considering selling it. But after a month I was ready for it and the game changed. It's almost like your body needs to retrain itself in stages. It's like you have to be very comfortable with vaping little ecgis (and not want to vape it like a cigarette) before you can graduate to the bigger batteries or something. This is not something that is stressed in the forums but should be.

Bottom coil tanks are also cooler than top coil tanks, but its not a drastic difference. I see people saying they prefer one-over-the-other, but to me, both style of tanks fit my moods and flavor intensity. Some flavors are too strong or harsh with top coils, but work perfect in the more refined/smooth bottom coils.

When I got frustrated with the lack of intensity from the Triton, I went back to the little ecigs and started experimenting with flavors. When I got bored with that, I then came back to the Triton and bought the EVOD VV and Mini ProTanks. The EVOD VV and Mini Protanks also have that cold metal tip, which gives it an even colder feel. I really like the difference now, but would have hated it in my "lack of heat" period. But to this day, my favorite flavor taste best in the little ecigs. I don't look at one device as "the ultimate vape device", instead I use all of them as it fits my mood and occasion.

I hope that helps a little.

 

[Nunnster]

I was gonna say something, but I see that what I was going to say was already said by someone else... Pop off the stem of the atty (it just wiggles right off) and remove the flavor wicks (the extra wick(s) that the coil isn't wrapped around) and replace the "lid" snugly, but not all the way down so juice feeds better. I also like to remove the little plastic ring that sits near the base as well. It takes about 2 seconds to do, involves nothing more than a little wiggle of the stem and it improves the vape considerably. After I found out this trick any and all issues I had with the protank were alleviated.

As for the "loose" vape, I actually find it to be a tighter vape than what I regularly vape (Boge LR cartos and a dual coil viva nova tank) so I have no idea how to help you on that. When you say you want a tighter vape, can you give an example?

 

[EL Pistoffo]

I was gonna say something, but I see that what I was going to say was already said by someone else... Pop off the stem of the atty (it just wiggles right off) and remove the flavor wicks (the extra wick(s) that the coil isn't wrapped around) and replace the "lid" snugly, but not all the way down so juice feeds better. I also like to remove the little plastic ring that sits near the base as well. It takes about 2 seconds to do, involves nothing more than a little wiggle of the stem and it improves the vape considerably. After I found out this trick any and all issues I had with the protank were alleviated.

As for the "loose" vape, I actually find it to be a tighter vape than what I regularly vape (Boge LR cartos and a dual coil viva nova tank) so I have no idea how to help you on that. When you say you want a tighter vape, can you give an example?

Removing the wicks did help with the throat hit and a bit with flavor.....thanks

I also wound up block 2 of the 3 air holes. I seem to like it better that way.

 

[albcig]

why don't you try a RDA?

joking aside. all clearomizers are very inconsistent and some new vapers are disappointed by them. they end up doing more harm than good. the sellers advertise them as easy to use devices but as you get experience in vaping you see that they are in fact the most finicky ones.

on a side note. Aspire BDC. everyone is saying nice things about them. maybe give it a try. and ofc the good ole carto tank

 

[CloudZ]

I can no longer post new threads in the new member forum, I'm not considered new enough I guess.

I don't think its PG sensitivity, I've been using high PG mixes since the beginning. I actually still have a burnt taste from the Tribec flavor stuck up my nose. It's nauseating. I've had to rinse with Listerine like 4 times.

I'm going to give it another shot with a new coil. I may have cross flavors on the old coils. My cleaning them in between flavor changes may not have been sufficient and I may have burned the original coils.

The V2 does sell a small clearomizer. I was using those.

A question I have regarding Carto's and tanks, when switching e-juice flavors , does the carto need to be changed as well or can it be cleaned and reused with a different juice?

Sorry about the new member forum thing, I didn't remember that you can't start a new thread there once you get to a certain post number. You could also try the e-liquid forum or clearomizer forum.

It definitely sounds like things are burning in your Protank heads. You could try removing a flavor wick, as other have said, but it doesn't always solve the problem. In fact, sometimes it causes flooding. Just find a vendor that sells authentic Kanger heads and don't be surprised if they still aren't perfect every time. I've never had good luck with stock heads in my EVODs, so I rebuild them. Not saying I am recommending that, but it definitely can solve a lot of problems if you get good at it.

You can wash and reuse cartos, but again its not going to work every time. I generally run the same flavor in a carto until it starts tasting bad, then throw it away. If I really want to reuse a carto with a different flavor, I boil it for several minutes, shake out as much water as possible, then bake it at 250 F for 30 minutes and let it sit overnight. This is most efficient if you do a handful of them at once. As for the tank, you can clean it out really well with hot water and alcohol so you can use a different flavor it in. There may be leeching with some juices, and that really depends on how much it bothers you to some extent. That's my opinion anyway.

 

[Ladiekali]

I switched to carto tanks and am sooooo glad i did. I got mine from www.desertvapes.com
I threw out all my tanks except for two i clear 16 and two i clear 30.
The iclears have good throat hit, warm vape but mute the flavor a bit.
I have used evods, t4, t2, t3s, vivi novas, aspire bdc, esmart 510 tanks, iclear 10s.

I can say alot has to do with the juice in which tank.
For the least hassle and less burnt hits, id go with iclear 16.
Kanger t2 arent bad. And halo states their juices were meant to be vaped in them.
Vivi novas burn easy. Funny taste.
And well aspire bdc is pricey and i bought three all of which taste horrid even after soaking in vodka.

As far as ease of use, cartomizers.
My suggestion is go to ibtanked, order 10 smoktech single coil xl xartomizers and one thingy med xl.
The cartos will run $1.35 each if you order 10 or more, the thingy is $1.50 and shipping is less than $4.
The thingy yes thats what its called makes priming a breeze!

A smok dct tank runs less than $7, and is glass. I bought four from desertvapes.com and four from fasttech.
Imalso have one intanked but they are wayyy pricey and i think you need some experience. I dont ever use mine. The smoks are just so easy.

The best thing with cartos is taste, flavors taste stronger and cleaner, no burnt hits, no tank cracking, no leaking, no fidgeting.
I was scared to take the leap but after a graveyard of clearomizer pieces im glad i did.

Thats my two cents.
I say smok dct
Or iclear 16.

For ease of use. D

 

[EL Pistoffo]

I switched to carto tanks and am sooooo glad i did. I got mine from www.desertvapes.com
I threw out all my tanks except for two i clear 16 and two i clear 30.
The iclears have good throat hit, warm vape but mute the flavor a bit.
I have used evods, t4, t2, t3s, vivi novas, aspire bdc, esmart 510 tanks, iclear 10s.

I can say alot has to do with the juice in which tank.
For the least hassle and less burnt hits, id go with iclear 16.
Kanger t2 arent bad. And halo states their juices were meant to be vaped in them.
Vivi novas burn easy. Funny taste.
And well aspire bdc is pricey and i bought three all of which taste horrid even after soaking in vodka.

As far as ease of use, cartomizers.
My suggestion is go to ibtanked, order 10 smoktech single coil xl xartomizers and one thingy med xl.
The cartos will run $1.35 each if you order 10 or more, the thingy is $1.50 and shipping is less than $4.
The thingy yes thats what its called makes priming a breeze!

A smok dct tank runs less than $7, and is glass. I bought four from desertvapes.com and four from fasttech.
Imalso have one intanked but they are wayyy pricey and i think you need some experience. I dont ever use mine. The smoks are just so easy.

The best thing with cartos is taste, flavors taste stronger and cleaner, no burnt hits, no tank cracking, no leaking, no fidgeting.
I was scared to take the leap but after a graveyard of clearomizer pieces im glad i did.

Thats my two cents.
I say smok dct
Or iclear 16.

For ease of use. D

It looks like that the direction i'm headed. I ordered some kanger cartomizers this morning on the suggestion of another member. I'm going to try them out. The consensus is that they are excellent with all the attributes you listed. I was a obviously a cigarette smoker and real tobacco provides strong flavor and hit. I just can't get away from that. I'm even having a hard time getting away from tobacco flavor. I've yet to find an e-juice that's close to tobacco though I haven't tried many as of yet. Too many of them have sweet additives which Marlboro's just don't have. At least I was fortunate enough to find a simple, decent mint e-juice at local B&M that rescued me from utter failure and has served as my test juice.

If I like these cartomizers then I will venture into the carto tank. I've been pointed towards Phiniac, IBTanked, SMOKTech DCTank, and Texas Tuff Tanks. As far as cartos, Boge's seem to be hit and miss but ikenvapes seem to get high marks.

I'm not giving up yet, I vow to find the perfect vape, even if it kills me.