I wanted to try what sub-ohm vaping is all about and specifically bought istick 30w for that purpose (I also have 20w version) . Bought subtank nano and put 0.5ohm coil and and even bought 6mg juice (I vape 12mg or 9mg) and even on one airhole open i'm getting almost lung take which i'm not a fan of to be honest. I tried 1.2ohm coil now and its ok I guess, little bit too airy still cause I like stiff. Maybe sub-ohm vaping is not for me?
Not sure if I like sub-ohm overall :(
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Yeah, sub-ohming isn't so great. I build my Kraken, Fogger V4, etc down to 0.7 ohms and that's not bad. I use the 1.2 coil in my Subtank and Nano. If I want some clouds, I just turn up the wattage.
You can run a sub ohm build on an Aqua v2 and probably a few other tanks and get the kind of vape you're looking for, but I will agree with you that the strength of sub ohm vaping is wide open high wattage direct inhaling.
Just for giggles, crank that iStick up to 27.5w, open your Subtank all the way up and hit it. You may end up growing really fond of how it vapes, I did.
Just for giggles, crank that iStick up to 27.5w, open your Subtank all the way up and hit it. You may end up growing really fond of how it vapes, I did.
I think you are deluding yourself slightly in the fact that you think sub-ohm vaping is in any way different from any other vaping. It still obeys the same laws, the coil will heat up based on wattage divided by coil volume, so you can tailor your experience to suit your preferences regardless of ohms.
High airflow reduces the heat of the coil so it allows you to run at higher wattage without burning your wick, that is providing your wick is good and remains saturated.
If you want mouth to lung hits then reduce the airflow and decrease the wattage. Obviously you wont get as big clouds though.
High airflow reduces the heat of the coil so it allows you to run at higher wattage without burning your wick, that is providing your wick is good and remains saturated.
If you want mouth to lung hits then reduce the airflow and decrease the wattage. Obviously you wont get as big clouds though.
Dont feel bad. You'll find plenty of people who don't like sub ohm vaping here. I've tried it a couple of times. I dont care for it at all. I vape on a Reo mostly and still use it with a single coil.
I use on Odin on the Reo I use most (a low profile grand). Most say it's the "Cadillac" of dual coil bottom fed attys to use with the Reo. I only use it with a simple 1.2 ohm single coil. Its perfect for me. It gives me outstanding flavor and satisfactory vape production. I dont care to look like a fog machine, or see how "low I can go".
Do what you do to keep yourself off the stinkies. Dont feel like if you're not with the "sub ohm cool kids club" that you're doing something wrong or not a "true vaper" (yes I've heard/read that before).
Just keep doing what you're doing!
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I use on Odin on the Reo I use most (a low profile grand). Most say it's the "Cadillac" of dual coil bottom fed attys to use with the Reo. I only use it with a simple 1.2 ohm single coil. Its perfect for me. It gives me outstanding flavor and satisfactory vape production. I dont care to look like a fog machine, or see how "low I can go".
Do what you do to keep yourself off the stinkies. Dont feel like if you're not with the "sub ohm cool kids club" that you're doing something wrong or not a "true vaper" (yes I've heard/read that before).
Just keep doing what you're doing!
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I don't sub-ohm much either, and do much the same as you.
Currently have an IPV Mini paired with a Subtank Mini and 0.5-ohm coil. Have it set to 20w and it hits perfect for me (I prefer lung hits) with good vapor. Also have a standard Subtank with a 1.2-ohm coil on a Sigelei 100w box set at a meager 20w and it hits pretty much the same. I think going forward I'm just going to get some additional 1.2-ohm replacement coils and/or build the deck at a similar resistance.
Really, with the adjustable wattage, is there any practical reason to sub-ohm vape? Not for me.
To the OP (or anyone else): I'm at work and don't have my subtank, so I can't try this, but I'm cusious what kind of draw you get off the Subtank with the airflow control closed?...does it give any type of hit at all? I've never even thought to try it since I like lung hits but maybe it functions well for mouth-to-lung hits.
For one you have acquired one of the airiest of draws in a tank with factory heads out there, the nano has a big diameter short stem with a wide short chimney with a huge airflow control, even the mini would be better for mouth to lung because to me your not saying a word about the flavor just that the airflow is to much, have you experimented with different gauge wire with different diameter size wraps on a rebuildable anything ?
I think the Marquis would change your mind pretty quick but to me it's not about sub anything it's about building a coil tailored to your preferred vape with a device that has the right airflow control and if the clearos work better for you then keep buying factory heads and be happy .......
sub ohm = under 1 ohm.
just because you are sub ohming doesnt mean you have to take huge lung hits. That is what the newest line of clearomizers (SubTank, Atlantis, Delta II) are built for though (or so it seams to me).
I usually Mouth to Lung hit, but occationally I find a giant lung hit satisfying and I have my cloud chasing rig for that.
just because you are sub ohming doesnt mean you have to take huge lung hits. That is what the newest line of clearomizers (SubTank, Atlantis, Delta II) are built for though (or so it seams to me).
I usually Mouth to Lung hit, but occationally I find a giant lung hit satisfying and I have my cloud chasing rig for that.
So vaping a 1.2 ohm coil on the subtank mini is just... Using a great clearomizer at low resistance?
1.2 ohms is a normal resistance not a low resistance. 0.2 ohms is a low resistance
This is another reason I really like the full size subtank because the RBA deck actually offers a tighter draw.
OP if you would like something with a tighter draw but decent airflow maybe try a Protank with an AFC base or a Nautilus!
Also running my Subtank in RBA mode right now at 1.25 ohms, 23 watts and its a smoother and more satisfying vape than the prebuilt heads by far. I rebuild the heads too at about .85 ohms and I feel that about the perfect setting for them
OP if you would like something with a tighter draw but decent airflow maybe try a Protank with an AFC base or a Nautilus!
Also running my Subtank in RBA mode right now at 1.25 ohms, 23 watts and its a smoother and more satisfying vape than the prebuilt heads by far. I rebuild the heads too at about .85 ohms and I feel that about the perfect setting for them
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Howdy,
I will neither defend or promote sub ohm vaping in truth, however there are some occasions where sub ohm will benefit the person where as times where high ohm will. Atomizers are complex and usually built for a purpose in mind, from airflow to post holes to even the insulators in them. Some work better on high ohms while others will work better on Sub oHm. Most atomizers today can be tweaked using air flow controls to actually get the ideal conditions for whatever you would like to put in there coil wise.
I've written several good posts on what makes the whole thing tick like a well oiled time piece (one recently) but there is a lot more then just slapping a coil in there and moving on with it. I would say that if you like it then likely you've found the perfect mixture of air flow and ohm's for that set up and that is when magic happens really. Anymore I don't build coils for people, the person that want's the coil actually builds it and I'm nothing more then the machine that produces the end product. I do keep in mind that its not my mod and not my vape so why would I build something I like
Just a thought.
I will neither defend or promote sub ohm vaping in truth, however there are some occasions where sub ohm will benefit the person where as times where high ohm will. Atomizers are complex and usually built for a purpose in mind, from airflow to post holes to even the insulators in them. Some work better on high ohms while others will work better on Sub oHm. Most atomizers today can be tweaked using air flow controls to actually get the ideal conditions for whatever you would like to put in there coil wise.
I've written several good posts on what makes the whole thing tick like a well oiled time piece (one recently) but there is a lot more then just slapping a coil in there and moving on with it. I would say that if you like it then likely you've found the perfect mixture of air flow and ohm's for that set up and that is when magic happens really. Anymore I don't build coils for people, the person that want's the coil actually builds it and I'm nothing more then the machine that produces the end product. I do keep in mind that its not my mod and not my vape so why would I build something I like
Just a thought.
Its all relative..
2.0 ohms is low resistance on some things: 510 Boge Cartomizer - 5 Pack
I wouldnt go lower than 1.8 on the single coil ProTank 2 products (or any other "standard" clearomizer - not including the new fog tanks - Atlantis/SubTank/Delta2).
Some may even argue that 0.2ohms is high resistance as they vape "Super Sub Ohm" below 0.1ohm (my self not included, I consider this a dangerous practice, but these people are out there).
when I want to do a mouth to lung on my Atlantis I close off most of the hole. it might work the same on a subtank. 
when I want to do a mouth to lung on my Atlantis I close off most of the hole. it might work the same on a subtank.
I've tried this on the subtank mini and though you can definitely tighten the draw, I find that the hit is way too concentrated and not nearly any vapor. In fact it makes me cough more than doing a nice lung hit with it wide open. I'm a noob, so can someone explain why this is?
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I love reading about it and I think it is great that there are vaping options for everyone. I am so happy with the reo that I can't imagine vaping getting any better for me. It is nice when you find what you are looking for and I hope you do. Good luck and happy vaping.
Just from my own personal perspective, I liken going to a sub ohm vape to when I started vaping. Not being sure if I got it set right or was doing it right. Staying with one thing thinking I would get used to it. Getting comfortable with it but wondering if there was something I could do or change to make it better.
I bought my first sub ohm set up and at first I felt the same as the op. I couldn't imagine cranking the watts up or opening the air hole all the way or even mostly open. But playing with it, giving different settings some time rather then changing after a couple hits, I started to hone into the settings for me. And now I am enjoying it so much, I am adding to the collection of sub ohm tanks so I can eventually eliminate my regular tanks. Not to mention I had some juices that I tried but just didn't care for that are quite nice on this set-up.
So, no, these are probably not for everyone. But I wonder how many give it a try and give it up before giving it a full "test drive".
I bought my first sub ohm set up and at first I felt the same as the op. I couldn't imagine cranking the watts up or opening the air hole all the way or even mostly open. But playing with it, giving different settings some time rather then changing after a couple hits, I started to hone into the settings for me. And now I am enjoying it so much, I am adding to the collection of sub ohm tanks so I can eventually eliminate my regular tanks. Not to mention I had some juices that I tried but just didn't care for that are quite nice on this set-up.
So, no, these are probably not for everyone. But I wonder how many give it a try and give it up before giving it a full "test drive".
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