not sure if im holding down my manual battery too long

[gearboy666]

i think i may be unknowingly killing my atomizers. does anyone have the average time to hold down the button on a manual 510 battery? i seem to be burning the atty or something because after a few sessions they get a burnt taste. and ive replaced my polyfill with PTB, so im sure its not the material getting burned. i replace the manual battery with my automatic, and the burned taste goes away.

 

[Keef]

How regular are you topping off the carts.

Sounds to me as if they are drying out which is why the burnt taste.

 

[Remie]

i think i may be unknowingly killing my atomizers. does anyone have the average time to hold down the button on a manual 510 battery? i seem to be burning the atty or something because after a few sessions they get a burnt taste. and ive replaced my polyfill with PTB, so im sure its not the material getting burned. i replace the manual battery with my automatic, and the burned taste goes away.

I timed myself when I read your question I find I'm taking a 4 second draw. I only have manual batteries so I think the "draw time' became reflexive pretty quickly.

It took me a bit to figure out that when I start getting a dry burnt taste I'm running my atty too dry. I'm still only using polyfill with the straw-mod in a few carts, but over the course of a couple of days I couldn't get rid of that awful taste.

I did some reading and found out that attys don't do well when they are dry.

I put a couple of drops of clean -juice on it, blew it out gently, fresh topped off cart... vape. It took a couple of times, but I cleared it completely and I'm more aware now to top off.

Do you find a difference using the PTB cart mod? I'm wondering if I should try it.

 

[CaptJay]

I top mine off a lot - as soon as the taste changes I top it off in fact - the harsh taste is horrid so I either top off the cart with 2 or 3 (or 4 or 5 depending how dry it is) drops or drop a couple directly on the bridge (the sticky up part when you pull off the cart and look at the atty, looks like a mesh covered mushroom!) Either way works fine - and I have done BOTH too - cos thats just..niiice
I keep my button depressed for as long as it takes to draw on the PV - and maybe a second or 2 prior to that to 'warm it up'.
Last night I vaped so much ( really chaining it) i got a headache, so I was depressing that little button a whole lot. I dont think it would be easy to break the atty by OVER pressing it tbh. It might get hotter faster though and would therefore dry out the filler faster than the auto.

 

[LovinTheVapor]

Last night I vaped so much ( really chaining it) i got a headache, so I was depressing that little button a whole lot.

I feel ya on the "headache" part. I'm now gotta set my 510 on the table across the room to keep from hitting it too much

 

[DC2]

How regular are you topping off the carts.

Sounds to me as if they are drying out which is why the burnt taste.

What he said.

Take a minute or two to read the thread linked in my signature below.
It might explain what you are dealing with.

 

[DC2]

I take very long, very big drags off my PVs all the time, with direct lung inhale.
It's the same way I sucked down a smoke.

I think an eight second drag off my manual 510 is not at all unusual for me.
Followed by another and another.

Needless to say, I need cartridge filler mods to make this work.
Although dripping with the Direct Drip Cart Mod plays a huge part in my life now.



But, keep in mind that long drags like that can fry your juice.
Well, of course, that depends on the juice.


Sometimes, if my juice is not up to the challenge, then I'll back off the button a bit.
Sort of hit it for 3 or 4 seconds and let go, then hit it for a few more.
A double shot, if you will.

 

[Elric13]

If I may suggest it, try dripping. Haven't used a charged cart since I started doing it. And the whole process acts more like a classic analog to me (need more drips after about smoking a single analog equiv)

 

[gearboy666]

well, i know my carts are topped off, and the PTB works like a dream. it seems alright if i use automatic, but i generally give myself about 5 seconds on the manual. perhaps i need to top off more than i thought. i thought you could go a while before refilling, i generally say about a day or two.

 

[beast775]

that seems like way to long, im putting juice in every 4-8 hauls.im abusing my attys i think.ive had 1 quit working and the other seems plugged up,and im well aware of the methods described in the forum. user error for me,but im gonna figure this out!

 

[Wireguy]

If it's a day or two you are for sure letting it dry out.

 

[gearboy666]

so then so im clear, i need to prime it before each new use (assuming its used one day, put to rest, and then used the next), and i need to keep it wet during the time of use?

 

[Keef]

A day or two WOW.

I top off a cart after every 5 - 7 draws.

 

[Parmacrafter]

A full cartridge on a 510 rarely lasts more than 30 drags, so if you are getting a day or two from 1 cartridge I would say you definitely need to refill a lot more often. It's either that or you are only taking 20 or so drags per day. I literally top off my 510 carts at least every 2 hours.

 

[gearboy666]

oh wow, this is news to me. no wonder my first 510 atty tasted like burning metal on a garbage heap after a week. same with my first 306 atty. it only lasted longer becuase it was on an auto battery

 

[sjohnson]

Agree with other posters stating the cartridge is getting too dry. I've occasionally chain-vaped, with some 10 second or so draws on a nicostick mod/510 atomizer. The only effect I had (remember I'm keeping the cart topped up at all times) was to melt the cartridge walls nearest to the atomizer.

Yuck! What a nasty burnt plastic taste that was! But the blue aquarium foam, wet with liquid, didn't even brown. Keep those carts filled up properly and that burnt taste won't happen. In fact, you'll get to the point where the draw changes subtly to a harsh/dry flavor that tells you it's getting dry before it ever tastes burnt.

 

[CaptJay]

A full cartridge on a 510 rarely lasts more than 30 drags, so if you are getting a day or two from 1 cartridge I would say you definitely need to refill a lot more often. It's either that or you are only taking 20 or so drags per day. I literally top off my 510 carts at least every 2 hours.

30 drags jeez I dont get that much from one I top mine off pretty much after every other 'pick up' (as in, I pick it up vape a few times, maybe 6 times?, put it down then pick it up again - TOP OFF..voila!)
Im using hte original filler (with a bit shaved off as I use more VG juices) and I think that dries out a lot faster than BFM in the 510. Could be wrong, but thats how mine is.

 

[smokingisbad]

I second what Elric said.GL

 

[son et lumiere]

Just vape it until it gets warm. When it starts getting hot, set it down and let it cool off.