Not throwing stones

[EdMathes]

Not throwing stones at any product and/or company but what's the story with these sub ohm clearomizer products? I have four, two old and two new, different makes and models and everyone of them leaks fluid from the airflow slots at the bottom. No they are not over filled, have been rebuilt with brand new seals, atomizers, but nothing helps. I go all day to only a few minutes and go to pick up the mod only to get my hand covered with juice. Some are top fill, some bottom but it's a mess when I'm in public! What's up!?!

 

[sofarsogood]

May be liquid is too thin and flows straight through the wicking instead of being suspended. May be seals not tight. May be air to restricted for how hard you draw. If you are talking about an RBA deck wicking can be an issue.

I put a 22mm x 12 mm silicone slip ring around my rda and pull it down below the air supply to draw and pull it back over the air supply for pocket carry, ghetto but very effective. A 22 x 12mm ring is tight enough that it never slips out of position once it gets into my pocket. In addition my DIY has a very low percent of flavor so if some does get in my clothing I don't reek. In short my solution is an SV rda and slip ring from FT.

(The slip ring is turned inside out to hide the goofy printing.)

 

[vapdivrr]

Obviously it could be any number of things but most of these new tanks are just garbage imo. They are clones of clones and massed produced in china. I see tanks for like 10 bucks, come on man! But people buy them and they keep producing them. Imo you need to purchase authentic quality products. In my 6 years of vaping, I have purchased a couple of cheap devices and totally regretted it both times. Their just not reliable like a quality piece imo. Personally I think it's better to save up and buy good quality stuff. I know some will say "oh, I can't afford the extra 50 or 75 dollars" really? Meanwhile they have said device for a month and have issues and have to buy another. Yes I'm sure people can get lucky with cheap stuff but in the long run its not worth it... but your right, with these new type, sub ohm tanks, their basically all cheap, not much of a selection of quality stuff in that category.

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[Jdurand]

I would say the average price these days, of a quality RTA or RDA is going to be in the 40 to 50 dollar range. That seems to be the price point of the Aromamizers, Boreas, ect, and those are quality gear. how someone in this day and age would buy a knock off is beyond me.

 

[pappcam]

Obviously it could be any number of things but most of these new tanks are just garbage imo. They are clones of clones and massed produced in china. I see tanks for like 10 bucks, come on man! But people buy them and they keep producing them. Imo you need to purchase authentic quality products. In my 6 years of vaping, I have purchased a couple of cheap devices and totally regretted it both times. Their just not reliable like a quality piece imo. Personally I think it's better to save up and buy good quality stuff. I know some will say "oh, I can't afford the extra 50 or 75 dollars" really? Meanwhile they have said device for a month and have issues and have to buy another. Yes I'm sure people can get lucky with cheap stuff but in the long run its not worth it... but your right, with these new type, sub ohm tanks, their basically all cheap, not much of a selection of quality stuff in that category.

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OP never mentioned anything about clones so your rant is kind of strange.

This is also the Clearomizer forum so the last couple of posts concerning RDA's are also strange.

Tanks tend to leak if the vacuum is broken somehow, the juice is too thin and it runs right through the wick or the seal between the coil and base is somehow compromised.

I have 6 or 7 clearos that I use in regular rotation and none of them leak.

 

[Jdurand]

OP never mentioned anything about clones so your rant is kind of strange.

Never mentioned authentics either, so why is it so strange, I find it a viable perspective on gear and quality. That is what the OP was looking for, reliable gear.

 

[Vinnybagodoughnuts]

I have reliable gear and I have never paid more then 25.00$ for any of them.

 

[vapdivrr]

I did say it could be any number of things and from his sub ohm description, it sounds to me like a sub ohm , replaceable coil head tank. Also with his thread title, it also seemed that it was more towards types and manufacturer, rather then user error. Now if he had stated that he just started and wanted some advice on what he might be doing wrong, then I would have went thru the check list. Imo, like stated, most of these new products coming out are garbage and I think that's what he wanted to hear. These are opinions towards the OP and if you have a different one then make it towards the OP and not to me. This is how these posts should work, someone makes a statement (the OP) and others share their opinions to THEM . This right here is how things get stirred up, bickering back and forth between posters while the OP'er sits there wondering why he ever asked the dam question in the first place

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[Jdurand]

I have reliable gear and I have never paid more then 25.00$ for any of them.

Then please participate and tell the OP what quality pieces you got for that money, now that would be helpful.

Divrr - You are so right about this. Did you read the ever growing Roxy thread? Place is falling apart.

 

[vapdivrr]

Then please participate and tell the OP what quality pieces you got for that money, now that would be helpful.

Divrr - You are so right about this. Did you read the ever growing Roxy thread? Place is falling apart.

And I am sorry if I sounded a bit harsh, looking back at what I wrote could of been write a little better. 99% of my replies are always to help said device but my point was that you need to be careful as to what you buy as well. With vaping being soo popular now, there's a lot more stuff out there and alot of it is well below standards imo. Yes I did hear about her and my first reaction is disbelief tbh. Although i didn't follow her that closely and exactly what was in question, but knew she had a definite passion and helped out big time.

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[Vinnybagodoughnuts]

@EdMathes Not sure exactly which devices you are speaking of but there are many great RTAs now on the market for a very reasonable price.I'd be happy to suggest a couple for you to try that have been leak/problem free for me.

 

[EdMathes]

I tend to agree with the gentleman about alot of junk being sold. To name names, had major problems out of Kangertech products, mods and leaking tanks, good luck with a Innokin mod. Wanted sometime more so picked up a Sigelei Fuchai 200w TC Box Mod with a Sense Herakles Plus Tank, tank leaked but threw away the two atomizers that came with the tank, Kanthal and 326L, installed a Ni200 running at 250C and no more problems. Next I thought about Tesla with a Playboy Vixen or a Cherrybomber with an RDA but have to get educated on coil materials, looping, etc...

 

[Robert Cromwell]

Not throwing stones at any product and/or company but what's the story with these sub ohm clearomizer products? I have four, two old and two new, different makes and models and everyone of them leaks fluid from the airflow slots at the bottom. No they are not over filled, have been rebuilt with brand new seals, atomizers, but nothing helps. I go all day to only a few minutes and go to pick up the mod only to get my hand covered with juice. Some are top fill, some bottom but it's a mess when I'm in public! What's up!?!

I use V2 Subtank MIni's and no leaky at all. I vape with 50/50 juice.

 

[puffon]

I think it's manufacturing consistency, or lack of, that can be an issue.
I know many have tank leaks, but I have 5 Kanger STMs, 4 Lemos v1 and v2, that have never leaked.

 

[vapdivrr]

I tend to agree with the gentleman about alot of junk being sold. To name names, had major problems out of Kangertech products, mods and leaking tanks, good luck with a Innokin mod. Wanted sometime more so picked up a Sigelei Fuchai 200w TC Box Mod with a Sense Herakles Plus Tank, tank leaked but three away the two atomizers that came with the tank, Kanthal and 326L, installed a Ni200 running at 250C and no more problems. Next I thought about Tesla with a Playboy Vixen or a Cherrybomber with an RDA but have to get educated on coil materials, looping, etc...

Personally I feel like if you did get into rebuilding, you will have better luck. Those pre built coils are just so hit or miss imo . When or if you get into rebuildable tanks, you can control things a little better and I also believe the rebuildable tanks, that cannot use the pre built coils are a step up and have better quality options. As for mods, with all the temp control chips and all the functions they provide, one must really do their homework because some of the chops used are just not that good and can run upwards of a hundred dollars. I personally love the evolve dna chip but there are a few other really good ones too. Good luck if you go the rebuildable route my friend, it's really a great hobby

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[Robert Cromwell]

I think it's manufacturing consistency, or lack of, that can be an issue.
I know many have tank leaks, but I have 5 Kanger STMs, 4 Lemos v1 and v2, that have never leaked.

If it is an RTA then the trick for no leaks in most tanks is all in the wicking.

 

[EdMathes]

Robert I'm not saying every product is bad that manufacturer has just given me the most problems. I too have a sub tank mini v2 that is great, like the gentleman pointed out, clones and clones of clones are alot of the problem.

 

[EdMathes]

Guess I need to point out that the Clearomizers were the subject of the problem with their premade replacable atomizers which give you no control over the coil, wicking, etc...

 

[Vinnybagodoughnuts]

I guess I somehow deleted what I said about clearomizers but I too had many difficulties with them and have since moved on.When it comes down to it there is alot of junk everything on the market nowadays.Research is more important then ever ime. It would be a much tougher road without forums like these to help us navigate the shark infested waters.

 

[Robert Cromwell]

Robert I'm not saying every product is bad that manufacturer has just given me the most problems. I too have a sub tank mini v2 that is great, like the gentleman pointed out, clones and clones of clones are alot of the problem.

Yep lots of clone kanger products out there. Many sold as authentic.