Now what?

[Concat]

Thanks. I don't know why people are so worried about posting the name of a vendor that is selling fakes and/or defective product. Aren't we supposed to be protecting each other from that kind of stuff? I figured that was one of the points of this forum.

It’s not that necessarily… I just don’t know enough nor am I confident enough to make such sweeping accusations. This is my first e-cig after all.

VK is adamant it’s a legit Joye product. I’m a noobie – who am I to say that it isn’t? I just wanted to get some consensus from the more experienced users before saying anything.

 

[smokum]

Thank you Concat for your "reasonable" and "proper" way of thinking.......

(I typed out a looooong response to this...... but my computer crapped & I'm not doing it again, lol).

 

[Concat]

I’m getting conflicting results from my sarcasm detector on that one…

 

[Lil-Stewie]

Be nice if you could post some pictures of what was in the box.

Was there a QC Pass card in the box like what is pictured?

 

[Concat]

Nope. No QC Pass/Certificate.

Yeah sorry, I'm at work all day and last night I was at the airport and just didn't have much time to get pics online. Probably have some pics tomorrow if people still care.

 

[heXy]

You purchased a product in good faith, have had a very unproductive experience with it, and feel at a loss with your money. We all care about that. I look forward to the pics. After reading NoizMakers post, he was able to confirm the Bauway models are being sold as legit eGo-T models. That isn't right in my book, if you want to sell a cheaper alternative, man up and admit they're not the real deal.

I ripped the Bauway atty to pieces, the coil is only wound two to three times around the wick. That will NOT satisfy your vaping needs IMO. Specially seeing as the tank model seems to have been more engineered for convenience over functionality. And for convenience, it is great, but there are MANY other options out there that are just as convenient and in most cases, work much better.

 

[IanK1968]

on my box there is a sticker that says stainless USA, no idea if that means anything.

 

[Lil-Stewie]

Nope. No QC Pass/Certificate.

That's a good sign then

 

[Switched]

Yup! If I recall correctly JoyE does not package QC certificates.

 

[AllYourBase]

It’s not that necessarily… I just don’t know enough nor am I confident enough to make such sweeping accusations. This is my first e-cig after all.

VK is adamant it’s a legit Joye product. I’m a noobie – who am I to say that it isn’t? I just wanted to get some consensus from the more experienced users before saying anything.

I actually wasn't talking about you, I was referring to the person who said this:

If your order is with whom I think it's with, then you infact have a replica eGo-T model and not a true one. I believe this was for-warned in my previous post when you placed the order. And I had indicated that while their kits may be real, their replacement parts most certainly are not.

I couldn't understand why anyone would make such a bold accusation as saying the parts were "certainly" fakes, but they wouldn't mention them by name. I figure, if someone is going to go so far as straight up accusing a company of selling knock-offs, then there's no reason for them to say things as cryptic as 'if you are ordering from who you think you are'. And another thing, heXy: if have definitive proof that they are selling fakes, which you are implying you are, why isn't there a "VaporsKitchen is selling Fake Ego-T atomizers" warning thread in existence? Am I the only one that cares or something? I was under the assumption that this is important stuff for consumers on this forum to know.

Anyway, Concat... I totally understand why you, as a new guy in this game (much like I), wouldn't want to put their name out there. Sorry if I wasn't clear as to who I was referring to in my post.

 

[Switched]

Once upon a time it was fairly easy to spot a knock off. Now not so much so. Just take the banding for example if it wasn't silver, or it was concave = knock off. Some have the silver, the eGo button but a blue light whilst a JoyE has a white led when fired. I guess there is certain rules they respect in China, that we may not be privy to.

The bottom line is if the deal is to good to be true, it is probably a fake. Ya can't by a $100 Rolex, although many have tried without success

 

[heXy]

I actually wasn't talking about you, I was referring to the person who said this:



I couldn't understand why anyone would make such a bold accusation as saying the parts were "certainly" fakes, but they wouldn't mention them by name. I figure, if someone is going to go so far as straight up accusing a company of selling knock-offs, then there's no reason for them to say things as cryptic as 'if you are ordering from who you think you are'. And another thing, heXy: if have definitive proof that they are selling fakes, which you are implying you are, why isn't there a "VaporsKitchen is selling Fake Ego-T atomizers" warning thread in existence? Am I the only one that cares or something? I was under the assumption that this is important stuff for consumers on this forum to know.

Anyway, Concat... I totally understand why you, as a new guy in this game (much like I), wouldn't want to put their name out there. Sorry if I wasn't clear as to who I was referring to in my post.

AllYourBase: Please see post #88, those parts were purchased from VK.

Post #88

Please also see post #67, same thread.

Post #67

The reason for the bold accusation is that this vendor is assuring people the parts are legit Joye eGo-T parts, when in fact, they are not. Feel free to purchase some from this vendor and come to your own conclusions however. NoizMaker was able to confirm that VK is selling Bauway iTank parts.

 

[tmac1981]

AllYourBase: Please see post #88, those parts were purchased from VK.

Post #88

Please also see post #67, same thread.

Post #67

The reason for the bold accusation is that this vendor is assuring people the parts are legit Joye eGo-T parts, when in fact, they are not. Feel free to purchase some from this vendor and come to your own conclusions however. NoizMaker was able to confirm that VK is selling Bauway iTank parts.

Bauway iTank is not a joye product and is Bauways own tank atomizer and Cartridges
here are some pics

 

[Pipeous]

Sad to hear all this crap. I am tickled with vaping and my ego t. now that I have found juices I like I get lots of vapor and enough throat hit I can actually cough if I take too big of a hit. I have gone a bit extreme and use a different atty and tank for each flavour I use. no playing around. pick up the flavour I want and screw that onto a battery... mind you I have another oh $100 in my nfn shopping cart... they have red tanks now too (those are for the swisher spice cigar). if I use different color tanks I don't have to think about what tank to change, especially while driving.

I worked yesterday and detailed a truck from hell. big white avalanche. had yellow fallout all over it. I started ay 9:30am and was leaving at 6:45pm. I hurt today. the band jammed last night and I was late getting there. my voice has gone through it's second puberty since dropping analogs lol. but we revisited a song I couldn't pull off 3 months ago and I had no troubles. my range is increasing all the time. it was a Paul McCartney tune. so I thank vaping for saving my life and my voice. and many of you here that have helped me along the way. I read this forum twice a day, post the odd post. but the info from the vets here has sure helped and I tend now to read their responses more than others... no offense to the others.

I don't clean my attys anymore, the odd blow out.

 

[Lil-Stewie]

The reason for the bold accusation is that this vendor is assuring people the parts are legit Joye eGo-T parts, when in fact, they are not. Feel free to purchase some from this vendor and come to your own conclusions however. NoizMaker was able to confirm that VK is selling Bauway iTank parts.

And to add to what heXy points out is the knowledge that the picture of the eGo-T kit posted on VK's website is not from Joyetech but rather it very much resembles the kit this manufacturer has posted on their Alibaba page. Too add to all the confusion Concat in his first post stated that when his kit arrived the packaging didn't look like what is posted on VK's website.

Who's to blame for the confusion and resulting frustration?

Vapors Kitchen is

Out of curiosity I emailed Joyetech and asked if Vapors Kitchen is a reseller of Joyetech products, Lina Wang, Joyetech's deputy managing director, confirmed that Vapors Kitchen indeed is a reseller which obviously is good news. Given what heXy seen in the atomizers tho leaves the picture a little blurry as to what Joyetech products VK is reselling .. again who's to blame for that?

.

 

[heXy]

Interesting tmac, that connection looks different on the Bauway then what I was shipped... Mine was infact a 510 connection, but the internals of the atty proved they were not Joye's. Your connection doesn't look 510 in that pic, I may be wrong however.

Thanks for that info lil-stewie, looks as though VK does sell real stuff... Just hasn't bothered to ship me any of it. Regardless, I have spent enough money on that vendor and have yet to receive anything that worked as advertised. I've ripped all of the products VK shipped me a part, and verified they were not Joye eGo-T parts.


He admitted to me over the phone that the 510 atty's he sells are not real Joyetech parts. So i'm not sure what he does sell that is real... Or even if he bothers making orders, even though he's a registered reseller. He indicated to me that "his supplier has a contract with Joye"... That doesn't constitute in anyway that he deals with Joye directly. But as that was a phone call, it's all here-say and you're welcome to take it with a grain of salt.

But I have no reason to make stuff up and lie to this community in any way. Just posting my experience, learn from it what you choose.

 

[tmac1981]

the pic is of the inside of the tank atomizer the
connection is 510
i do not think they are the same atomizer

 

[heXy]

the pic is of the inside of the tank atomizer the
connection is 510
i do not think they are the same atomizer

I would have to agree with that. I just took another look at the one I have, it doesn't even look like what I was shipped, was even Bauway lol...

 

[tmac1981]

The new bauway itank atomizers are version 2 so there are not many out there yet

 

[AllYourBase]

AllYourBase: Please see post #88, those parts were purchased from VK.

Post #88

Please also see post #67, same thread.

Post #67

The reason for the bold accusation is that this vendor is assuring people the parts are legit Joye eGo-T parts, when in fact, they are not. Feel free to purchase some from this vendor and come to your own conclusions however. NoizMaker was able to confirm that VK is selling Bauway iTank parts.

You obviously didn't read my post. I know the reason for your bold accusations. I was supporting them! Hell, I even went so far as to say that there should be a thread warning people about this!

I certainly wasn't criticizing your choice to publicly accuse the company of selling knock-offs when they are telling consumers they are legitimate. I was saying: it would've been good of you to either name the company or include links when you originally made the accusations. All you said was 'in the other thread'.... how are we supposed to know that you meant Post 88 in the Ego-T Review thread? Not everyone has time to dig around on every post on a forum in order to figure out what exact post you mean. You were being cryptic, and I couldn't understand why. These are important things for consumers to know, so why be cryptic about it and not include names or links? That's all I was saying. To be honest, now that you are providing full disclosure with the links and everything, I am REALLY confused as to why you were so cryptic in your first post.

Again, I KNOW that Vapors Kitchen is to blame. I simply was saying, if you know for a fact that someone is selling knock-offs, don't be cryptic about it when you call them out on it. Mention them by name or post links. They are the bad guys here!