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Most of the upgrades or changes to the GGTS are in response to the customers. They are things we have asked for and Imeo has provided them. We are a fussy and particular group of people. Imeo also listens to what we have to say. If we see a problem or have a question, he goes above and beyond to answer or correct the issue.
I have 2 of the original GGTS's and they both work great without any of the updates.
Did I purchase updates? Yes, I did and particularly the fuse which I feel is one of the best safety features around.
I might sound like a fangirl of Imeo or the GG line but I am not. What I am a fan of is great customer relationships and a product that works.
I have 2 of the original GGTS's and they both work great without any of the updates.
Did I purchase updates? Yes, I did and particularly the fuse which I feel is one of the best safety features around.
I might sound like a fangirl of Imeo or the GG line but I am not. What I am a fan of is great customer relationships and a product that works.
Yeah, I understand what Switched is saying, He expects the product, in this case, the GGTS, to be perfect, and work perfect, and look perfect.....and with threads rubbing, it aint perfect...And I get it...
BUT, The GGTS is a beautiful device, and something a true vapor should NOT be without. As Imeo just stated, he will send a new center piece to those who dont like it.....I am not sure if I will like it, but I can live with it, because I know how good the product is, and I'll stand behind Imeo regardless.
GG for life...
-Tim
BUT, The GGTS is a beautiful device, and something a true vapor should NOT be without. As Imeo just stated, he will send a new center piece to those who dont like it.....I am not sure if I will like it, but I can live with it, because I know how good the product is, and I'll stand behind Imeo regardless.
GG for life...
-Tim
I am an avid GG owner/user and I have been reading through some of these threads where some people are not so happy about this or that. I read one post the other with with the OP starting out with "wow, this is long". They didn't mention anything about how beautiful it is, or how flawlessly it worked..."this is long".
Without getting into a rant here, it is no secret that the GG line is exclusive and not within everyone's reach. As with many exclusive things, they are not made on an enormous scale where each one is stamped out and looks identical to the other. Can anyone tell me why there is paint over spray underneath the door slats of a Ferrari 512M? It's a custom paint job..
Consider each GGTS as exclusive (if not more so) as a Ferrari. You think every one that rolls off the line is identical to the last? No way. You think that every Chevy Impala that rolls of the line is identical to the last? Absolutely, down to the stitching on the seats.
That is a condensed version of what I have been thinking. Each and every GG is perfect because of its' minor imperfections. It is the imperfections that make it unique, and give it character. If every person in the world was the same, we could say that nobody has any character. If every GG in the world was the same, it wouldn't have any character.
That's all.
Without getting into a rant here, it is no secret that the GG line is exclusive and not within everyone's reach. As with many exclusive things, they are not made on an enormous scale where each one is stamped out and looks identical to the other. Can anyone tell me why there is paint over spray underneath the door slats of a Ferrari 512M? It's a custom paint job..
Consider each GGTS as exclusive (if not more so) as a Ferrari. You think every one that rolls off the line is identical to the last? No way. You think that every Chevy Impala that rolls of the line is identical to the last? Absolutely, down to the stitching on the seats.
That is a condensed version of what I have been thinking. Each and every GG is perfect because of its' minor imperfections. It is the imperfections that make it unique, and give it character. If every person in the world was the same, we could say that nobody has any character. If every GG in the world was the same, it wouldn't have any character.
That's all.
You mean the thread I started here?
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/gg/108813-just-got-my-ggts-avs-draw-ring-question.html
I didnt say anything positive about the unit because I had just received it and put it together (I had it assembled for about 5 minutes before I made that post). I hadnt used it yet. As far as the appearance and it looking pretty, appearance means very little to me. My personal car is an old Honda Civic. It works and works well. Appearance isnt the reason I ordered this product.
I said nothing untrue about the GGTS.
Here's the deal. Its really long for an ecig. It in fact might be the longest ecig out there. Perhaps there is a longer one, Id like to know where.
Secondly, I think it is fair to say that the information on the GGTS is a bit misleading. For starters, on the Vaporkings website, the GGTS is shown with a silver telescoping tube which is not accurate. Next, the GGTS information states that it works with a 510, 80something atty and a 901 but the AVS does not make this distinction. I was under the impression that if the 510 worked with the core GGTS unit, it would also work with the AVS and I think this is a completely fair assumption to make.
Third, I think the GGTS is way too expensive, even at its cheaper limited time sale price. When you consider that the core unit + AVS + everything else you have to buy to get the unit up and running is upwards of $400 minimum. Now it is true that many will already have the batteries, atties, chargers, liquid and all the other nonsense you have to buy for an ecig mod but there are some whom this might be their first mod. I spent $300 for just the unit and a few mods for it. Just think, when the sale ends, it will go to $300 without any addons.
Fourth, Im not a huge fan of the button design on the GGTS. Personal preference I know but if you have ever used the silver bullet sold from altsmoke, that is quite possibly the best button design I have ever seen on an ecig bar none.
Fifth, there is an extremely steep learning curve with the GGTS. From putting it together to vaping it to cleaning it, its all a big process the first couple times. Hell, I still am not sure I have the vaping part of it down yet and Ive had the unit since Saturday.
And, Im not the only one that had the unit leak out of the top ring around the mouthpiece.
And lets not forget about stock issues. I had been waiting since April to get my GGTS and I just got it mid July.
There are other very small things that I would change if it were my design and I had the time and know how to do so. Overall, the issues I mentioned above are my major complaints.
Now, on the other side, I love the unit as a whole. It vapes well and I dont have to deal with dripping or carrying around a bottle of fluid. I just fill it before I hop into the drivers seat of my rig, prime it for a few minutes and its good the whole day. Overall, its a quality device. Its really light which came as a huge surprise to me. In fact, I think the casing + filled AVS + atty weighs about the same as the 18650 battery Im using in the device.
I think it does a huge disservice to the GGTS when you read nothing but praise and not a single negative thought or something you would change if you could. Truthfully, It is neat device with some issues.
I also want to address something else, this whole notion of 'minor imperfections means its a better unit" and making this analogy to a car or a person.
I guarantee if you bought a new car and it had an 'imperfection', you'd be returning it to the shop to have it repaired - especially if you were paying the price tag for a Ferrari 512 (per the wiki page, "In 1995, the F512 M retailed for $220,000").
And for those of us that have significant others, if you were being completely honest, you probably have a thing or two about that person that if you could get them to change about their character, you would, even if it were a small change.
I dont buy either of these arguments and its complete crap trying to claim the unit is 'better' because of these imperfections.
Now, before I wrap up my mini-novel, I want to say, I love my GGTS.
Does it have issues? Yes.
Do those issues make it a better unit? No.
It is disingenuous to try to claim otherwise.
Now, I want to apologize to Imeo personally. This whole post sounds like Im ragging on his ecig. Im not. As I said before, I love the unit as a whole. It has made me a safer driver and alot less annoyed about vaping. There are innovations in the unit that my puny brain would have never come up with. I am fascinated by the magnet switch for example. Its such a small and simple concept yet for some reason, Ive never seen it anywhere else. The AVS is also another innovative design. In fact, I still dont know exactly how it works. The idea of combining the 510/901/8085937 atty connectors is also brilliant. Hopefully this will make it to the AVS some day.
Mentioning imperfections is what allows the unit to become better. If everyone did nothing but praise everything, there would be a lot less innovation.
The beauty of the ecig business right now is people are trying to figure it out. It isnt big business but individuals that are really revolutionizing the industry. Sometimes there are failures or mistakes along the way (just look at how many AFS/AVS revisions there have been - this is the third one now isnt it?) but as the great Deforest Kelly (Doctor Mccoy) once said, "I know engineers—they love to change things."
Imeo's a big boy, he can handle criticism's. And if it is a big enough issue, he will change the design and all of us we will be buying the upgrades. Ooo...look at that. Everyone benefits. The unit gets better, Imeo gets richer, we get a better quality device.
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/gg/108813-just-got-my-ggts-avs-draw-ring-question.html
I didnt say anything positive about the unit because I had just received it and put it together (I had it assembled for about 5 minutes before I made that post). I hadnt used it yet. As far as the appearance and it looking pretty, appearance means very little to me. My personal car is an old Honda Civic. It works and works well. Appearance isnt the reason I ordered this product.
I said nothing untrue about the GGTS.
Here's the deal. Its really long for an ecig. It in fact might be the longest ecig out there. Perhaps there is a longer one, Id like to know where.
Secondly, I think it is fair to say that the information on the GGTS is a bit misleading. For starters, on the Vaporkings website, the GGTS is shown with a silver telescoping tube which is not accurate. Next, the GGTS information states that it works with a 510, 80something atty and a 901 but the AVS does not make this distinction. I was under the impression that if the 510 worked with the core GGTS unit, it would also work with the AVS and I think this is a completely fair assumption to make.
Third, I think the GGTS is way too expensive, even at its cheaper limited time sale price. When you consider that the core unit + AVS + everything else you have to buy to get the unit up and running is upwards of $400 minimum. Now it is true that many will already have the batteries, atties, chargers, liquid and all the other nonsense you have to buy for an ecig mod but there are some whom this might be their first mod. I spent $300 for just the unit and a few mods for it. Just think, when the sale ends, it will go to $300 without any addons.
Fourth, Im not a huge fan of the button design on the GGTS. Personal preference I know but if you have ever used the silver bullet sold from altsmoke, that is quite possibly the best button design I have ever seen on an ecig bar none.
Fifth, there is an extremely steep learning curve with the GGTS. From putting it together to vaping it to cleaning it, its all a big process the first couple times. Hell, I still am not sure I have the vaping part of it down yet and Ive had the unit since Saturday.
And, Im not the only one that had the unit leak out of the top ring around the mouthpiece.
And lets not forget about stock issues. I had been waiting since April to get my GGTS and I just got it mid July.
There are other very small things that I would change if it were my design and I had the time and know how to do so. Overall, the issues I mentioned above are my major complaints.
Now, on the other side, I love the unit as a whole. It vapes well and I dont have to deal with dripping or carrying around a bottle of fluid. I just fill it before I hop into the drivers seat of my rig, prime it for a few minutes and its good the whole day. Overall, its a quality device. Its really light which came as a huge surprise to me. In fact, I think the casing + filled AVS + atty weighs about the same as the 18650 battery Im using in the device.
I think it does a huge disservice to the GGTS when you read nothing but praise and not a single negative thought or something you would change if you could. Truthfully, It is neat device with some issues.
I also want to address something else, this whole notion of 'minor imperfections means its a better unit" and making this analogy to a car or a person.
I guarantee if you bought a new car and it had an 'imperfection', you'd be returning it to the shop to have it repaired - especially if you were paying the price tag for a Ferrari 512 (per the wiki page, "In 1995, the F512 M retailed for $220,000").
And for those of us that have significant others, if you were being completely honest, you probably have a thing or two about that person that if you could get them to change about their character, you would, even if it were a small change.
I dont buy either of these arguments and its complete crap trying to claim the unit is 'better' because of these imperfections.
Now, before I wrap up my mini-novel, I want to say, I love my GGTS.
Does it have issues? Yes.
Do those issues make it a better unit? No.
It is disingenuous to try to claim otherwise.
Now, I want to apologize to Imeo personally. This whole post sounds like Im ragging on his ecig. Im not. As I said before, I love the unit as a whole. It has made me a safer driver and alot less annoyed about vaping. There are innovations in the unit that my puny brain would have never come up with. I am fascinated by the magnet switch for example. Its such a small and simple concept yet for some reason, Ive never seen it anywhere else. The AVS is also another innovative design. In fact, I still dont know exactly how it works. The idea of combining the 510/901/8085937 atty connectors is also brilliant. Hopefully this will make it to the AVS some day.
Mentioning imperfections is what allows the unit to become better. If everyone did nothing but praise everything, there would be a lot less innovation.
The beauty of the ecig business right now is people are trying to figure it out. It isnt big business but individuals that are really revolutionizing the industry. Sometimes there are failures or mistakes along the way (just look at how many AFS/AVS revisions there have been - this is the third one now isnt it?) but as the great Deforest Kelly (Doctor Mccoy) once said, "I know engineers—they love to change things."
Imeo's a big boy, he can handle criticism's. And if it is a big enough issue, he will change the design and all of us we will be buying the upgrades. Ooo...look at that. Everyone benefits. The unit gets better, Imeo gets richer, we get a better quality device.
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I will send a new brass tube to anyone who has a problem with this "poor workmanship" as you called it at the cost of 10 euros shipped!!!
Thanks but no thanks Imeo
My is imperfectly perfect and I wouldn't change a thing.... (oh ok, maybe a metal mouthpiece. )Little, GG started with the slogan "the smallest cig". Its was like that when I made the GGGrant. Size was a concern those days
and yes the GG was the smallest one. After Grant, several cigs were made but still Grant was the smallest. Then more
functions were added to GG because my people wanted to have more options. But options require more length and width. I add the
18650 battery option, I then I add the collector tank. Then the CR and then the AVS. GG can still remain the smallest cig if I
make it like all the other cigs out there (a simple battery holder). I can still make the smallest cig in the world but with minimum options. Just a tube with 2 caps, nothing more. I was the first one as always that did a tube with 2 caps and I can do it better than anyone
for a simple reason. Because I am enginner and I have ideas too. Simple as that.
As for the fact if GGTS works with 510, it was a misunderstooding mistake of yours but be sure that I always update GG without
forgeting my older customers (when the construction allow me to do it) and be sure that GG will soon work with 510 too.
As for the price. At 158 dollars, Is still GG expensive when all the other simple battery holders costs 100 dollars? How much do you think GG has to be sold? Tell me and I will listen.
Very nice of you what you said about button but please please think what else GG has. I will try to mention them in a while.
About GGTS learning curve. Of course there is a lurning curve. GG is not a tube with 2 caps. GG is a machine. Noone can handle
a machine without a little practice. Noone was born knewing who to drive. You are a driver and you will agree with it. But
when you learn how to drive then you feel like a king, yes?
About leaking from the top ring. This is not a mistake of me, its the o-ring. And I dont make o-rings. A factory makes the o-rings and I cant do many things about it.
But you can buy a new o-ring at 0,1 dollars and this "issue" will stop. Also, dont forget how dificult was the project that I doid
with AVS. I am trying to capture liquid inside a tube. If you ask a plumber he will tell you that liquids are sooooo dificult
to be captured. But I did it my friend little. Not only that but even if we still have the air holes, the costruction of AVS
allows the GG not to leak! Check the internal costruction to see how it is made.
Stock issue is a stock issue of course and it has nothing to do with the quality of the GG of course.
You also said that you would change other things too if it was your design. I am all ears friend. But remember that I make all
things with the simpler and easier way. So some things that you may have in your mind maybe cant be done. Engineering is a
very dificult prossedure.
You also said that people dont see anything bad on the device and its a "huge disservice to the GGTS when you read nothing but
praise". I will tell you why all people do that. Its because all people like it and noone wants to change anyting on it! Very
simple answer. Also dont forget that I will be still here waiting for your suggestions buddy.
You said that a car will be returned to the seller if it has imperfections. But car costs 10.000 and GG costs 158 dollars
little! Of course dont forget that cars have maaany imperfections maybe 100 times more than GG. Have you ever check a car to see?
Of course there are a few people that want to change something on GG. Its because we are all different. But I am waiting from you
to tell me something different (exept the colour or the engraving). I want real changes. Then I will listen to you carefully.
Unit is better because of the imperfections, and thats a fact little. The simple reason is that you dont see the value of a
handmade product. You are not alone here. Many people cant see that, no problem. You are the man that likes the factory
products and no one accuse you for that. Of course GG has no imperfections if you check it. Or to say it better it has no more
imperfections on its surface than any other cig out there.
You said that it has issues. Ok , lets see. 1) GG has so many functions on it so its logical to have more issues that other cigs
dont have. You agree with it I hope. The more functions, the more issues. But to speak the truth, even if it has so many functions on
it, it has no issues!! Thats a surprise.
Thanks one more time for your time and I am waiting for your suggestions to the GG.
ps..... if by the word "imperfections" you mean the o-ring or the "threaded marks" on the tube then we will compare it with a car again. Car is leaking from 10 points all the time because of broken flanges!! No one says that its an imperfection because we just change the flange and thats all. About the "threaded marks", I will tell you that I know already how to make a GG without those marks because I have already did it in previous model! I just did it like this because I wanted to make it stronger for your pleassure. I try to make strong things always so they will last a life time. No other company tries to do that, maye the opossite.
and yes the GG was the smallest one. After Grant, several cigs were made but still Grant was the smallest. Then more
functions were added to GG because my people wanted to have more options. But options require more length and width. I add the
18650 battery option, I then I add the collector tank. Then the CR and then the AVS. GG can still remain the smallest cig if I
make it like all the other cigs out there (a simple battery holder). I can still make the smallest cig in the world but with minimum options. Just a tube with 2 caps, nothing more. I was the first one as always that did a tube with 2 caps and I can do it better than anyone
for a simple reason. Because I am enginner and I have ideas too. Simple as that.
As for the fact if GGTS works with 510, it was a misunderstooding mistake of yours but be sure that I always update GG without
forgeting my older customers (when the construction allow me to do it) and be sure that GG will soon work with 510 too.
As for the price. At 158 dollars, Is still GG expensive when all the other simple battery holders costs 100 dollars? How much do you think GG has to be sold? Tell me and I will listen.
Very nice of you what you said about button but please please think what else GG has. I will try to mention them in a while.
About GGTS learning curve. Of course there is a lurning curve. GG is not a tube with 2 caps. GG is a machine. Noone can handle
a machine without a little practice. Noone was born knewing who to drive. You are a driver and you will agree with it. But
when you learn how to drive then you feel like a king, yes?
About leaking from the top ring. This is not a mistake of me, its the o-ring. And I dont make o-rings. A factory makes the o-rings and I cant do many things about it.
But you can buy a new o-ring at 0,1 dollars and this "issue" will stop. Also, dont forget how dificult was the project that I doid
with AVS. I am trying to capture liquid inside a tube. If you ask a plumber he will tell you that liquids are sooooo dificult
to be captured. But I did it my friend little. Not only that but even if we still have the air holes, the costruction of AVS
allows the GG not to leak! Check the internal costruction to see how it is made.
Stock issue is a stock issue of course and it has nothing to do with the quality of the GG of course.
You also said that you would change other things too if it was your design. I am all ears friend. But remember that I make all
things with the simpler and easier way. So some things that you may have in your mind maybe cant be done. Engineering is a
very dificult prossedure.
You also said that people dont see anything bad on the device and its a "huge disservice to the GGTS when you read nothing but
praise". I will tell you why all people do that. Its because all people like it and noone wants to change anyting on it! Very
simple answer. Also dont forget that I will be still here waiting for your suggestions buddy.
You said that a car will be returned to the seller if it has imperfections. But car costs 10.000 and GG costs 158 dollars
little! Of course dont forget that cars have maaany imperfections maybe 100 times more than GG. Have you ever check a car to see?
Of course there are a few people that want to change something on GG. Its because we are all different. But I am waiting from you
to tell me something different (exept the colour or the engraving). I want real changes. Then I will listen to you carefully.
Unit is better because of the imperfections, and thats a fact little. The simple reason is that you dont see the value of a
handmade product. You are not alone here. Many people cant see that, no problem. You are the man that likes the factory
products and no one accuse you for that. Of course GG has no imperfections if you check it. Or to say it better it has no more
imperfections on its surface than any other cig out there.
You said that it has issues. Ok , lets see. 1) GG has so many functions on it so its logical to have more issues that other cigs
dont have. You agree with it I hope. The more functions, the more issues. But to speak the truth, even if it has so many functions on
it, it has no issues!! Thats a surprise.
Thanks one more time for your time and I am waiting for your suggestions to the GG.
ps..... if by the word "imperfections" you mean the o-ring or the "threaded marks" on the tube then we will compare it with a car again. Car is leaking from 10 points all the time because of broken flanges!! No one says that its an imperfection because we just change the flange and thats all. About the "threaded marks", I will tell you that I know already how to make a GG without those marks because I have already did it in previous model! I just did it like this because I wanted to make it stronger for your pleassure. I try to make strong things always so they will last a life time. No other company tries to do that, maye the opossite.
Many peple dont see the value of a product like GG MrNYFC. I dont see why. A unit with no more imperfections than any other cig out there, with all those crazy functions on it and handmaded too. It also shines like the sun.
Its a little strange to me but its ok. We are all different people for sure.
Thanks for your kind words and yes GG is the ferrari of all the cigs for sure. In sometime I will make it an aeroplane. I am very near to this!
Thanks but no thanks Imeo
thanks Jay my friend
But I want you to know that I will be here any time if you need me for anything!
Mine got these marks after one day. I kinda like the way they look. And I understand, like Imeo explained, how it makes the unit stronger. Now the telescope isn't a weak point. I think that's a good thing.
no offense but IT IS a tube with 2 caps. There is NO learning curve, that's bollocks - you just assemble it and use it.
The leaking issue with the AFSv2 it's an easy fix - actually it's so easy it's childish ..
If the fanboys are happy with the product, that's fair enough, but does not mean it's a "complicate piece of technology" (by the way, my uncle it's an engineer and saw me with the GG - he had a look and he told me if I want 100pcs he can make them for under AUD$20 - that's US$17)
I bought the v3 as well just for curiosity and because I can afford it , not because I actually need it.
I fixed the AFSv2 myself and since then never leaked and never will.
This should have been done by manufacturer, but hey, "it's a normal leaking"
There is no picture on vapor kings of a GGTS extended, showing the telescoping tube.
This is directly from Vapor Kings: "A 901 atomizer or IAtty (NOT included) sits inside the liquid tank surrounded by e-Liquid. When you smoke your e-Cig liquid is pulled up into the atomizer automatically. Some users have had success using modified 510 adapters or modified 808 cartomizers as well. Please seek assistance on the GG Forum for help with any modifications."
I think you are kind of comparing apples to oranges here. You are saying that the GGTS, AVS and some "extra's" are expensive. Compared to what? I can only assume you mean other big battery e-cig mods. In which case we can exclude the AVS and "extras".
The AVS is a one of kind design. So we can't really compare the price of that to anything else. Yes, there are other Auto Feeding Systems, but nothing of this complexity/style. There is no point in arguing the price on the AVS, because we've yet to have a comparison.
I bought my GGTS for $158.50. Two of my other mods (that take only 1 battery option mind you) combined, cost about the same as this. But considering all this can do, it really is a lot more versatile then both of those mods put together. Judging by the average price I see on a bare bones (no bat's or chargers) "quality mod" nowadays, I'd say the GGTS is about 1.7-2x's the price at $158.50. To me, that doesn't seem expensive. Not at all actually. Not considering what this thing does, and what those other mods do.
Honestly, I don't see this as a 'first mod' for most (if any) people. I see this as the 'last mod'. This is an advanced device that I wouldn't recommend to a novice ex-smoker. We "make our way" here. And once we get here, we definitely have batteries, chargers, liquid, atomizers (of all kinds).
If you think the unit is "way too expensive" then why would you purchase it? I read in an earlier post of yours that this unit has the potential to help you avoid automobile accidents? In that case, maybe it isn't too expensive, considering it's the only one of it's kind.
Sorry. I already made my post before this. And I wasn't going to respond to this post. I read it an hour ago, and it was still nagging me.
On another note, I'm glad your enjoying your GGTS, as am I.
no offense but IT IS a tube with 2 caps. There is NO learning curve, that's bollocks - you just assemble it and use it.
The leaking issue with the AFSv2 it's an easy fix - actually it's so easy it's childish ..
If the fanboys are happy with the product, that's fair enough, but does not mean it's a "complicate piece of technology" (by the way, my uncle it's an engineer and saw me with the GG - he had a look and he told me if I want 100pcs he can make them for under AUD$20 - that's US$17)
I bought the v3 as well just for curiosity and because I can afford it , not because I actually need it.
I fixed the AFSv2 myself and since then never leaked and never will.
This should have been done by manufacturer, but hey, "it's a normal leaking"
I never thought that GG was complicated for people mick my friend. But Little just mention it, so yes it is for some people. Maybe not for you but it is for the others and we have to respect that.
GG is not a tube with 2 caps of course. Its a complicated thought. Your uncle can make it because he saw it. The difficult part is the thought. You have seen how simple it is and how through this simplicity can do everything. You also see why other manufacturesrs can do the same. Its the thought friend
I agree about no learning curve and that was my concern too. But again some friends have some dificulties as you see, we have to take care of them.
Fanboys are the people that like the work of a piece. I am a fanboy of many things in my life, it gives me fan and passion.
Your uncle can make it cheap because he didnt paid errors and tries and thoughts of course. I know that you know that already. But the whole unit at 17 dollars? Be sure that if he can do that I want to make a partenership with him. I really mean it. Please contact him and tell me. It will be an exellent offer to all my customers a cheaper GG!
I am really happy that there are people like you that can do things with their hands! I count on people like you, otherwise I would have 100 questions per day.!!
Thanks a lot for your nice words friend.
I dont mind the imperfections in the appearance. Im the one who wants a non-glossy unit because I dont like fingerprints. I actually was thinking about sanding the outside a bit to take off some of the gloss and give the unit some grip so it doesnt slip out of my hand.
It isnt about factory vs hand made. I just would prefer non-shiny. This is preference, not imperfection. Mine is getting used. Its going to get beat up. It isnt sitting behind a display case. I suppose you are right in that for me, it doesnt matter how its made as long as it works well. I never really paid much attention to details, functionality was always far more important.
I fixed the O ring issue. I know you dont make them but it was an issue with myself and another person. Even the demo video Keon put up mentioned that he had small leakage issues out of the top.
Yes the unit is long. Not a bad thing, it was just an observation.
There IS a learning curve to the unit. How many GGTS people were able to just pick up the unit and have it figured out in minutes? This isnt a bad thing. But it will be an issue for some.
My silver bullet is the most simple ecig in the world - unscrew, put battery in, screw together, put atomizer with drip tip in, drip 3 drops, vape. If you have ever used a flashlight, you know how to assemble 99% of the mods out there. But it also offers very little in functionality. So, I use both. When Im at home, I vape with my SB. When Im on the road, I use the GGTS.
Perhaps the AVS comes intuitively to some people. There are some however that it doesnt. I know Im not the only one because Ive seen others ask about it and how to use it.
There isnt a perfect ecig in the world and their never will be. Why? Because alot of it is personal preference and alot of it is concessions. Some people like shiny. I dont. So what is perfect for me wont be for someone else.
Another example is battery life versus unit size. If you want a unit that will have a battery last all day, you get a big, thick unit like the silver bullet or GGTS. If you want a unit that is smaller, you have to make the concession that you will have to recharge the batteries once or twice during the day. Its a balancing act. Sure, Id love to be able to use it for a month without refilling or recharging but I dont want to carry a car battery and 1 gallon container full of liquid with me either. Concessions have to be made for different features. The AVS extends the units length. The expense is size, the benefit is...well, we all know.
I wrote all of this up because the GGTS isnt perfect (nor do I expect it to be). Maybe I misunderstood but I thought it was really unfair to characterize my observation of the length of the unit as talking negative. Bringing up my failure to mention how 'great is looks' and how well it works in my initial post was also unfair. I had the unit assembled for 5 minutes when I made the post.
Im not the one who made the comparison to a car. This was brought up by someone else. I do believe that if I bought the car and it leaked fluid all over the steering wheel, Id return it and tell them to fix it.
This could go on forever...
Im sorry I said anything... I have so much more I could say in response to some of the things others have said. I knew that this would be controversial to bring up. I just wish people were more open minded and didnt assume observations were meant as criticisms. Its one thing to like a product but there is no 'perfect' product. There is nothing wrong with constructive criticism, as I said, if their were no criticism, things wouldnt get better.
Imeo, I love the device. It isnt perfect but it works great. Im in fact vaping on it right now. As an optional addon, can you put in a vibration mode on it so it will double as a back massager?
It isnt about factory vs hand made. I just would prefer non-shiny. This is preference, not imperfection. Mine is getting used. Its going to get beat up. It isnt sitting behind a display case. I suppose you are right in that for me, it doesnt matter how its made as long as it works well. I never really paid much attention to details, functionality was always far more important.
I fixed the O ring issue. I know you dont make them but it was an issue with myself and another person. Even the demo video Keon put up mentioned that he had small leakage issues out of the top.
Yes the unit is long. Not a bad thing, it was just an observation.
There IS a learning curve to the unit. How many GGTS people were able to just pick up the unit and have it figured out in minutes? This isnt a bad thing. But it will be an issue for some.
My silver bullet is the most simple ecig in the world - unscrew, put battery in, screw together, put atomizer with drip tip in, drip 3 drops, vape. If you have ever used a flashlight, you know how to assemble 99% of the mods out there. But it also offers very little in functionality. So, I use both. When Im at home, I vape with my SB. When Im on the road, I use the GGTS.
Perhaps the AVS comes intuitively to some people. There are some however that it doesnt. I know Im not the only one because Ive seen others ask about it and how to use it.
There isnt a perfect ecig in the world and their never will be. Why? Because alot of it is personal preference and alot of it is concessions. Some people like shiny. I dont. So what is perfect for me wont be for someone else.
Another example is battery life versus unit size. If you want a unit that will have a battery last all day, you get a big, thick unit like the silver bullet or GGTS. If you want a unit that is smaller, you have to make the concession that you will have to recharge the batteries once or twice during the day. Its a balancing act. Sure, Id love to be able to use it for a month without refilling or recharging but I dont want to carry a car battery and 1 gallon container full of liquid with me either. Concessions have to be made for different features. The AVS extends the units length. The expense is size, the benefit is...well, we all know.
I wrote all of this up because the GGTS isnt perfect (nor do I expect it to be). Maybe I misunderstood but I thought it was really unfair to characterize my observation of the length of the unit as talking negative. Bringing up my failure to mention how 'great is looks' and how well it works in my initial post was also unfair. I had the unit assembled for 5 minutes when I made the post.
Im not the one who made the comparison to a car. This was brought up by someone else. I do believe that if I bought the car and it leaked fluid all over the steering wheel, Id return it and tell them to fix it.
This could go on forever...
Im sorry I said anything... I have so much more I could say in response to some of the things others have said. I knew that this would be controversial to bring up. I just wish people were more open minded and didnt assume observations were meant as criticisms. Its one thing to like a product but there is no 'perfect' product. There is nothing wrong with constructive criticism, as I said, if their were no criticism, things wouldnt get better.
Imeo, I love the device. It isnt perfect but it works great. Im in fact vaping on it right now. As an optional addon, can you put in a vibration mode on it so it will double as a back massager?
I have already made simple cigs buddy. Slim is like this, Grant was like this, nano and super nano was like this. But they were really simple. When I say simple I also mean the thought of the construction. Wiress style that you can assemble it and disassemble it for fun, to add parts that I will send in future, etc. All the other cigs are simple. But simple in use. But if they broke (they do that very easy) then you have nothing to use. With GG you can fix it even if you dont have the nessesary parts from me!!
If by the word perfection you mean the finish then yes there is no perfect cig out there. But if you mean anyhthing else then GG is what you want. Its the best either.
SB is fatter than the GGTS. You cant compare them either to anything.
I am sure that you love the GG buddy but its not perfect just only for you. It is perfect for the most people. Ok, it cant change colours as you would like to do, thats a fact. But its the best out there and miles away from any other. I am sure that you can see that
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The GGTS is not shown with a aluminum telescope. It is shown with the GGTS closed up completely. And when you go to GGTS product page it states right under the picture NEW GG Telescopic Storm with brass telescopic center section And regardless if you look at the GGTS on the main GG page of the website or go to it's own product page next to the picture where it says NEW ITEM it also says this NEW GG Telescopic Storm with brass telescopic center section
And in the description it also says this...
Optional accessories sold seperately are:
GG Aluminum telescope tube (sold seperately only - please do not ask to substitute)
And in the description of the AVS regardless if you was looking at the AVS tank for the new GGTS or the previous GGTS's it specifically says this...
A 901 atomizer or IAtty (NOT included) sits inside the liquid tank surrounded by e-Liquid. When you smoke your e-Cig liquid is pulled up into the atomizer automatically. Some users have had success using modified 510 adapters or modified 808 cartomizers as well. Please seek assistance on the GG Forum for help with any modifications.
I am not sure where Vapor Kings was misleading in anything you say we were.
I am sorry you wasn't able to get one in April but like I said in another post we had them on the site for almost to the day a month. The last batch of GGTS's we had plenty in stock. Now when we first put them in stock when we recieved them Rob did not put all them in stock that first time. But within that day he put all the rest in stock up (and we recieved another order several days later) which happened to last almost the whole month. Also Imeo sent us some twobrass GGTS's (which had the brass top and bottom cap) and some onebrass GGTS's (which had only the brass bottom cap). Now I do know that the twobrass GGTS's sold out a lot quicker but again we still had plenty of the onebrass in stock for almost a whole month.
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You know what - you should do it. You'll make a fortune!
It's easy to just copy someone's work, isn't it? I bet China can do that half this price :->
GG Storm is the best vaping rod ever. Unmatched on all levels. So yes in that sense, it is indeed the perfect vaping device.
On the other hand, Imeo always promises us upgrades and delivers even more than promised. So in that sense, the GG stops being the perfect machine, the moment the next GG is born.
Now stop arguing and let us all get back to the real deal: What's next? Grant V2 and Grant AVS?
By the way, I still want an Iperforator
On the other hand, Imeo always promises us upgrades and delivers even more than promised. So in that sense, the GG stops being the perfect machine, the moment the next GG is born.
Now stop arguing and let us all get back to the real deal: What's next? Grant V2 and Grant AVS?
By the way, I still want an Iperforator
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