Occasional burnt taste from CE5 clearomizer - advice?

[vangroover]

Hi all,

Newbie here (vaping about 2 months). I'm trying to figure out the cause of the occasional slight burnt flavour I get when using my CE5 clearomizer. I keep it pretty full most of the time and I'm using the same liquid; however, every once in a while, slight burnt flavour comes through along with my juice's usual flavour. Is this what's called a "dry hit?" I wouldn't say it's fully dry, since I'm still tasting the juice... I'm not sure how to trouble shoot this issue. Any suggestions?

Thanks!


Edit: I should mention that I changed the coil about 5 days ago and I'm vaping a 50/50 blend with an Ego C upgrade (vaping sometimes at 3.2 and at others 3.7 volts).

 

[VapHer]

I am having the same troubles with my CE-4's. I had posted a thread about it yesterday and got some good advice

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...on/434699-why-does-sometimes-taste-burnt.html

Good luck!

 

[SpinDr480]

I got the same with CE6's, which are all kind of the same. I heard if you tip them so the juice flows to the top while vaping it helps. It improved a little for me that way, but I still get a bad taste in my mouth. I ordered mine from FastTech and my guess is that it has something to do with how they are made and leave nasty tasting residue in them. I'm hoping to learn to rewick and recoil so I can try and make these clearo's vapable.

 

[Marginally Successful]

I inherited some swag (vapor goodies) from someone that had upgraded. Amongst the booty were a couple of 5 packs of some type of clearo (replaceable atomizers so at least not 4s) all of which so far have given nothing but burnt tasting vapes. I set them aside for experimentation if I ever decide to do something crazy like build my own atomizers and stuff. Good thing I have about 3 or 4 more 5-packs with perfectly good clearo's that taste fine. Hope you find a solution. Browsing suggests that a good cleaning with a solvent like ethanol or hot water can take care of some problems with burnt taste. I didn't have much luck with the hot water solution though.

 

[SpinDr480]

I inherited some swag (vapor goodies) from someone that had upgraded. Amongst the booty were a couple of 5 packs of some type of clearo (replaceable atomizers so at least not 4s) all of which so far have given nothing but burnt tasting vapes. I set them aside for experimentation if I ever decide to do something crazy like build my own atomizers and stuff. Good thing I have about 3 or 4 more 5-packs with perfectly good clearo's that taste fine. Hope you find a solution. Browsing suggests that a good cleaning with a solvent like ethanol or hot water can take care of some problems with burnt taste. I didn't have much luck with the hot water solution though.

I have tried a vodka soak and a hot water soak and neither have cleaned out the taste of these clearo's Their is actually only one that I can use from the pack, so I know they aren't all bad and just need something to get that taste out.

 

[DavidOck]

Chain vape? Might just be... too long and / or too often a draw and the wick can't keep up, especially with 50/50.

 

[Bulleh]

Chain vape? Might just be... too long and / or too often a draw and the wick can't keep up, especially with 50/50.

I used to get the burnt taste with this as well because I chain vape all day. But I turned down the voltage slightly (I use a VAMO now) and replaced it with a 2.4 ohms CE5 and I get a lot more flavor and don't ever get a burnt taste no matter how much I chain vape.

 

[vangroover]

I used to get the burnt taste with this as well because I chain vape all day. But I turned down the voltage slightly (I use a VAMO now) and replaced it with a 2.4 ohms CE5 and I get a lot more flavor and don't ever get a burnt taste no matter how much I chain vape.

Hmmm... I asked a vendor what ohm to get with my CE5 going with the Ego C and 1.8 was suggested. I have no idea in that area... should I switch to a higher ohm?

 

[hytek]

I would recommend when using clearomizers to know your liquids. Different liquids are going to help. Don't use thick liquids, stick to light pg liquids. Also flavor is going to be a big part in overriding the initial taste, your going to have to experiment. Of course this is all theory because I dont use clearos.

 

[jimrug1]

Hmmm... I asked a vendor what ohm to get with my CE5 going with the Ego C and 1.8 was suggested. I have no idea in that area... should I switch to a higher ohm?

I use CE5s a lot. They are NOT all the same by the way. The build quality and vape consistency varies greatly depending on the manufacturer. I have always had good luck w/ Visions. I think you put your finger on it. Usually burnt taste is due to the wicks not keeping up with your vaping or vaping at too high voltage for the head you have on. You will still get some juice taste but the coil will have burnt it by then. One of the qwirks of the top coil clearos is that they need some movement to keep the wicks wet. One little thing I have learned is not to stand your device up. Lay it down when you are not vaping (preferably with one of the wicks facing down so it stays wet.) and give it a twirl once in a while.

Also, usually the darker thicker juices have a tendency to burn faster than thinner light juices. The thinner juices wick easier. Hope this helps GL

 

[DavidOck]

Hmmm... I asked a vendor what ohm to get with my CE5 going with the Ego C and 1.8 was suggested. I have no idea in that area... should I switch to a higher ohm?

Wouldn't hurt to try say around 2.4. Different values at a specific voltage will vape differently - taste, warmth, vapor. While 1.8 certainly won't hurt your battery, it's more about what you like.

Unless you try a different setup, you won't know if you like it. Changing things up until you find what works well for you is the key.

 

[JeremyR]

Too many draws on a 1.8 ce5 will dry it out on you if your not careful. Dry hits suck. You may also need to wash and dry burn it. About every 3-6 days for it to keep a clean coil. And keep the wicks from gunking up, slowing down the wicking.

 

[InTheShade]

I use CE5's too - I personally like them although they do require a little love and attention to keep the vape performance consistent.
If you are getting dry hits, it's always because you aren't getting enough juice to the coil. This can be because you are using a thicker juice and vaping on it a little too quickly, or you have too little juice in the clearo - they tend to work better when 1/2 to 3/4 full. Twirling the clearo as some have said is something that becomes second nature when using a top coil device.

Just as a point, I clean mine much more often than every few days.

Every 2-4 fills I rinse them out with hot water, remove the little silicone cap and run water through the coil and clean the wicks. Then a shake and blot dry. Use a q-tip to clean out the drip tip and make sure you clean the threads on both the drip tip and bottom of the head well.

Every now and then, like maybe every couple or three days, I do a dry burn of the coil (some say never dry burn a coil, others, like me do it a lot - never had one pop) I do the dry burn by leaving the silicone cap off and putting the head back on the battery. Pulse the button for 3-4 secs while gently blowing on the coil. Keep doing this until you see the coils glowing evenly across the wraps.

Rinse it again in hot running water, shake and blot dry, reinstall the silicone cap, fill and vape. Cleaning the coil like this helps to bring the flavor back out of the juice.

 

[vangroover]

I use CE5's too - I personally like them although they do require a little love and attention to keep the vape performance consistent.
If you are getting dry hits, it's always because you aren't getting enough juice to the coil. This can be because you are using a thicker juice and vaping on it a little too quickly, or you have too little juice in the clearo - they tend to work better when 1/2 to 3/4 full. Twirling the clearo as some have said is something that becomes second nature when using a top coil device.

Just as a point, I clean mine much more often than every few days.

Many thanks, Aglet, and the rest of you, for some very helpful and comprehensive feedback!

I'm seriously time-deprived (and sleep-deprived), having a 7 week old and a three year old in the house... I love to tinker with stuff, but pretty much no time these days!

So, anyone care to comment on what might be a good 1.6 ml clearo that might be lower maintenance? I like the CE5 for the warmer draw I feel I get compared to an Evod I have, for example. I'll look at getting a 2.4 ohms coil, too, since that looks like that might improve my results a bit.

So much to learn, so little time!

Thanks again, boys and girls. I love this forum!

 

[InTheShade]

You're most welcome, I feel your pain, vaping is awesome, but it is not like buying a pack of smokes and lighting one.

An excellent top coil clearo is a mini vivi nova - I got mine in metal so I can use some of the 'tank-cracker' juices like cinnamon and citrus. I was just looking for a good Canadian vendor and I can't find one for you, but I will just say it's important they are genuine vision vivi nova's - or you may have leaking issues. I get mine from MINI Vision Vivi Nova Tank System - Metal Tube If having a smaller clearo is important to you, I've found these work very well. If you prefer something bigger, they also do a 3.5 ml version. Only thing with a metal clearo is you can't see how much juice is in there - so if you're not planning on using citrus or similar juices, get a clear one if you prefer.

One way to tell the genuine from the copies out there is the shape of the head. Click to enlarge, the real one is on the left.



Edit - I forgot to add, you are always going to have to fiddle a little with any delivery system. They are going to need cleaning and replacing, you're going to have some leaks here and there, maybe get some juices you really don't like - just keep reading the forum, watching youtube (pbusardo is excellent) and trying different things.

 

[jimrug1]

Too many draws on a 1.8 ce5 will dry it out on you if your not careful. Dry hits suck. You may also need to wash and dry burn it. About every 3-6 days for it to keep a clean coil. And keep the wicks from gunking up, slowing down the wicking.

I agree. You really have to dial down the voltage on the 1.8 heads or the CE5 wicks cant keep up. After lots of trial and error, I like the 2.0 2.4 Ohm heads on the CE5s for most liquids. It vapes a little cooler at low voltage and you have the option of dialing it up if want a more aggressive hit.

I do the same as far as cleaning. About once a week, I pull all my CE5s apart, throw em in a big bowl of hot water (sometimes in vodka), and soak them for a couple of hours (Changing the water a couple of times. I then set them on a paper towels and dry out all the parts, dry burn the coils, and put them back together. Since I purchased 6 clearos and replacement heads 5 months ago, I have only had to replace 2 heads.

 

[jimrug1]

So much to learn, so little time!

Hey, this is a path to a healthier life for you and your family. You have all the time in the world. Its NOT a race. Take your time, read, learn, and decide. Not visa versa. You have a huge advantage on ECF. You can benefit from all the accumulated knowledge based on the mistakes we made before you. You will learn from some of those mistakes and make some of your own. And... add to the knowledge base ... ;-)!GL

 

[DuckPond]

I use ce5's and I clean then all the time it really helps with the flavor and The size of the hit. Yes I also dry burn them. I have five on them and all of them still work. I had one that had a burnt taste because i stuck it in my pocket and it wasn't shut off. A Bacardi 151 bath for 2 days fixed this problem.

 

[DavidOck]

While there certainly are other options in top coils, if you like the CE5s, just lay in a supply of new coils / heads. (And have more than one CE5!) When the one you're using gunks up, just take it apart, rinse out with hot water, pop on a new head, and fill.

Keep the gunked ones until you have time to deal with them, cleaning / dry burning as needed. Then they're ready for use the next time.

Yes, top coils generally do vape warmer than bottom coil units. But you could also try say a 1.8 in the Evod. The lower resistance will warm it up a bit, and may be to your liking.

In any event, any top end will require some maintenance. But coils are fairly cheap, and swapping them is pretty quick.

 

[Viper41]

I just got 3 ce5's with my tesla kit. when I get a burnt taste I just drop my voltage down one or two clicks.
they run between 2.3 to 2.6 ohms, run the tesla around 3.4 to 3.6 volts to keep from getting burnt taste
Im using a 67%pg/33%vg 18mg nic peach flavor "dime piece" in one ce5 and a tobacco mix (6 diff flavors mixed) in another unknown pg/vg/nic in this one