Occult Health Reasons for Vaping - What They don't want you to know

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Supposedly It's all about tobacco and controlling nicotine addiction - We have already shown plenty of evidence that vaping is one of the best ways to reduce nicotine dependence and is much safer than lit tobacco products especially cigarettes. But is it good for other health issues as well ??? - And why does the FDA not allow advertising of vaping for nicotine dependence and these other health concerns:

1. Obesity - They say that one of the leading causes of premature death, besides smoking cigarettes, is obesity - Being very overweight. Doesn't it make sense that having a flavorful vaping blend {with or without nicotine as 0mg juices are still available} to draw on instead of another snack you don't need, might help with weight control?- Maybe that is another real reason they want to ban flavors ?

2. As a substitute for dangerous drug dependence - Doesn't it make sense that developing a vaping hobby might get some peoples minds off of dangerous drugs? - Nicotine is a lot less dangerous than many of the drugs causing much suffering and death throughout the world.

3. There is some evidence that nocitne might help protect from Alzheimer's disease:

Can nicotine protect the aging brain?
Date:
September 20, 2016
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Texas A&M University
Summary: Everyone knows that tobacco products are bad for your health. However, according to research, it turns out the nicotine itself--when given independently from tobacco--could help protect the brain as it ages, and even ward off Parkinson's or Alzheimer's disease.

Can nicotine protect the aging brain?


So there you have 3 reasons vaping may have health benefits they don't want you to know - You will not see this on the news; hear it from rabid fear mongering politicians working for the bought and paid for organizations out to restrict and eventually outlaw the vaping hobby as was done in India and now Australia, where you now need a doctors prescription to buy vaping supplies.
Still, all things considered, even they sometimes have to admit the truth
- The FDA has finally admited that vaping is in fact less toxic than cigarettes !!!
 
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Well if you were to ask me, or most of the people I know, obesity is more of a problem than smoking or vaping is. By freakin' far!

Back in my young days (60's) through much of the 80's and part of the 90's it was very rare to see obese ones all over the place. They're everywhere nowadays. It's sickening seeing all the obese kids, and people, these days. But there are reasons for it, lack of exercise (number 1) and not knowing when to stop shoveling in the food (number 2).

Bottom line, obesity is good business for the medical industry. o_O
 

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Bottom line, obesity is good business for the medical industry. o_O
So are anti smoking drugs with numerous, sometimes serious side effects.
But you know they'll blame anything they can on vaping - But big pharma is safe - it's pay as you go
and big pharma has plenty. Vaping is a 'peoples' hobby and therefor being suppressed !
 
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I am proof of 2nd point, after broken marriage i went into self destructive mode with crack & pills & powders followed by even more bad luck... I met my partner even tho i was trying to quit rock i still needed something to take place of the rock so i invested in a few rtas loads of wires rdas couple mechs started studying ohms, now I'm doing promotion work, sometimes I get chance to do written reviews for bigger companies and stores with juice & hardware which i REALLY LOVE doing, photo editing, i also try introducing products from company to company with page i am apart of on facebook called 'mutual share monday'.
i have made fantastic set of friends & all mental support i could need from our group 'dark humour vapes' .
Perhaps you could say i switched 1 addiction for another... But surely vaping got to be better addiction?

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Switching to vaping and quitting smoking gave me the courage to tackle my weight problem. 125 lbs gone and about 25 to go at this point. I admit I spun off the rails a bit in the last couple months but I am back on track again and can console myself with the fact that although I didn't lose in the last few months I didn't gain either. LOL

Sometimes you just have to start somewhere.
 

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Nicotine is good for anxiety. That's why I use it.
Probably true - But its more than just nicotine.

Its the whole experience - One reason I used to find pipe smoking so relaxing - In fact it was too relaxing and as I've gotten older found it was putting me too sleep - too much nicotine. At any rate you can get pipe shaped vape devices anyway. Read somewhere that nicotine tends to be a stimulant in small quantities and has a down type effect in larger quantities.

Lately I've had some blood pressure issues, 'possibly' made worse by nicotine even though I was vaping low
nic levels anyway. So I had bought some bottles of 0mg nic which I was going to use for mixing and thought I would see if that would work for me. It does. I'm enjoying the flavor and aroma of vaping more than ever
and my blood pressure has returned to normal - Of course I also changed to decafe coffee so who knows.

But this brings to mind a fourth Occult reason for vaping:

'Aroma Therapy', an alternative healing method that uses aroma to heal disease
- Vaping might be a good way to dispense healing aromas and of course flavors !

And you know something I thought I needed nicotine for nerves but find my nerves calmer without
the nicotine - Long as I have the pleasant flavors, aroma and of course the clouds !
 

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    Read somewhere that nicotine tends to be a stimulant in small quantities and has a down type effect in larger quantities.
    Alcohol has the same effect. I wonder if caffeine does also? I usually drink an average of 3 to 6 cups of coffee a day. If I don't drink at least one, I wind up with a splitting headache. However, I can finish a cup right before I goto sleep, and it doesn't present a problem falling asleep.
     

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    Alcohol has the same effect. I wonder if caffeine does also? I usually drink an average of 3 to 6 cups of coffee a day. If I don't drink at least one, I wind up with a splitting headache. However, I can finish a cup right before I goto sleep, and it doesn't present a problem falling asleep.
    I quit nicotine and caffeine at the same time and I had so many side effects that lasted for nearly two months, the largest being brain fog and headaches. I think both were from caffeine but I'm not positive, I did eventually start vaping a low amount of nicotine but after quitting caffeine I'm so sensitive to it I can't even drink a 12oz soda without an adverse reaction. I used to drink at least two NOS a day and Mt. Dew all throughout the day, now I can't drink caffeine at all.

    Quitting caffeine by far was worse than nicotine but do you ever hear about that? I don't.
     

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    Alcohol has the same effect. I wonder if caffeine does also? I usually drink an average of 3 to 6 cups of coffee a day. If I don't drink at least one, I wind up with a splitting headache. However, I can finish a cup right before I goto sleep, and it doesn't present a problem falling asleep.
    Yes, during the pre prohibition era {before they outlawed alcohol and created more problems than alcohol itself ever created}, 'they' had all kinds of supposed evidence that even a small amount of alcohol was very dangerous
    and addictive - Proven wrong, some scientific studies now show small to moderate amounts of alcohol may in fact be healthy, especially for the heart. {unless you are an alcoholic, in which case no amount of alcohol is good}
    They did this too with coffee and caffeine - claiming all kinds of ill effects from it. The latest I read says coffee, even with caffeine, may be good for your health - Unless you are sensitive to caffeine. Some, but not most, people are - in which case caffeine could cause high blood pressure, irregular heart beats, etc.
    This is also true for nicotine - It can have some health benefits for people, like the quote I gave about research showing it may have neuroprotective effects for the brain. Again everyone is different, and the same drug or substance that was good for you at 20 or even 50 might not be so good when you are 70.
    Again another beauty of vaping is you can go from high nic down to zero and still enjoy the experience of vaping.
    The antis, like the FDA and tobacco control freaks, want you to believe that this is too good to be true.
    My counter argument is that they are too bad to be true !!! Let's let only science and the facts speak!
     
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    From the scientific experts at Harvard University...

    Coffee

    Caffeine

    Excerpt from the Caffeine page: "However, strong negative effects of caffeine on blood pressure have not been found in clinical trials, even in people with hypertension, and cohort studies have not found that coffee drinking is associated with a higher risk of hypertension."

    In moderation, both have been found to be healthy for the "average" person. Each offers numerous health benefits.
     

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    Yeah. On the news the other day, they were talking about New Years resolutions. A health expert came on and said people might want to take it easy with certain substances just to avoid unintended consequences.

    :toast:
    No doubt, I only quit caffeine because my resting heartrate was 100bpm and I was hoping it would help, in my case it did but I would never recommend anyone quitting caffeine unless necessary.
     

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    mm hmm ... before smoking bans

    Just sayin'
    That has nothing to do with those bans.

    "Health experts" in the 80s came up with the idea that fat is health problem no.1.
    The industry sponsored this "low fat trend" quite happily, because now they had an excuse to substitute expensive fat with cheap sugar.
    So food companies started to reduce fat, but added sugar in massive doses (and citric acid to compensate for the sweetness) to almost every processed food on the market.
    Consequence was a healthy bank account for the industry and people bloating up like donuts.


    Happy fat year.
     

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    A ways back in the good old US of A, "studies showed" or "suggested" that a high carbohydrate, low protein diet was the way to a long and healthy life. I believe that it was in the '70's. Pasta became the rage, couldn't get enough.

    That fad was the genesis of my philosophy that if I don't like what a study shows or it makes no real sense to me then I should ignore it. I know it won't be long before a study comes out that suggests something that I do like. Say, for instance, alcohol is good for the heart or something vaguely similar to that.

    That has nothing to do with those bans.

    "Health experts" in the 80s came up with the idea that fat is health problem no.1.
    The industry sponsored this "low fat trend" quite happily, because now they had an excuse to substitute expensive fat with cheap sugar.
    So food companies started to reduce fat, but added sugar in massive doses (and citric acid to compensate for the sweetness) to almost every processed food on the market.
    Consequence was a healthy bank account for the industry and people bloating up like donuts.


    Happy fat year.
     
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