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No need to spend money or your computers resources installing other products. The defag that comes with Windows 7 and 8 works.
No matter what someone tells you or anything that you see in an ad, do not defrag SSD's. There is an option in Windows 8 to optimize the SSD, however it's running a TRIM pass, not defrag. It's OK to let that run weekly, as TRIM is what's needed to keep SSD's in top condition. GC also plays a part, this is done during idle time.
Both Samsung & Intel SSD's has most everything needed to maintain their SSD's, with Crucial you're limited to forum support, but there's some knowledgeable folks there.
Have been running SSD's since 2011 (Crucial M4, Intel 330 & Samsung 840 EVO) & yet to have one fail. BTW, that 128GB Samsung 840 EVO rocks for it's cost ($85) & size. WEI score of 7.9, the fastest component in my PC. The slowest is my GPU, at 7.5 (both sets). CPU & RAM is 7.7.
I plan on grabbing another Samsung 840 EVO soon, a 240GB model, that will allow me to have all SSD's in my PC. Not only will it run cooler, it'll have more power.
System Specs of my main rig, Dell XPS 8700 customized a bit:
http://speccy.piriform.com/results/FguAXKRa64XdBgDSnifH4Bt
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That's very true, one doesn't need to spend a cent on defrag software with either of these OS's. I have it because of a lifetime license of Perfect Disk that I bought during my XP days, when Raxco was begging for customers.
No need to let a good piece of software go to waste, though as I posted above, I don't let it touch my SSD's.
Nor does Linux Mint need (or can use) it. That's the best OS that I have, with little overhead, the one that I make all of my transactions on.
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No need for defrag on Linux, regardless of distro. And the only update you need to reboot for, is a kernel upgrade. That would occur maybe twice a year, at most, if you upgrade every release. Most people do not, (nor is it necessary) unless there are significant improvements that affect them personally. It is quite common to have a system uptime greater than one year.
I don't upgrade to every version of Linux Mint, usually will run the LTS (17 RC will soon ship) for about 2 years, then will upgrade to the latest versions with new features until the next LTS is released.
Currently on Mint 16, except one non-PAE enabled computer, which I'm running Mint 13 LTS on. That release is still supported until April 2017. Though I do run Puppy on occasion.
Have been a proud Mint user since 2009.
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Currently on Mint 16, except one non-PAE enabled computer, which I'm running Mint 13 LTS on. That release is still supported until April 2017. Though I do run Puppy on occasion.
Have been a proud Mint user since 2009.
Cat
Wow - thank you kindly for the advice. Does Windows 7 do the TRIM thing?
Here's my meh, rig...
Operating System
Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit SP1
CPU
Intel Core 2 Duo E8500 @ 3.16GHz 45 °C
Wolfdale 45nm Technology
RAM
4.00GB Dual-Channel DDR2 @ 533MHz (5-5-5-15)
Motherboard
EVGA 132-CK-NF78 (Socket 775)
Graphics
Sceptre X24WG (1920x1200@59Hz)
512MB NVIDIA GeForce 9800 GTX/9800 GTX+ (EVGA) 60 °C
Storage
698GB Seagate ST375064 0AS SCSI Disk device (SATA) 26 °C
167GB INTEL SS DSC2BW180A4 SCSI Disk device (SSD) 22 °C
Optical Drives
HL-DT-ST DVDRAM GH24NS95 SCSI CdRom device
HL-DT-ST DVDRAM GH24NS95 SCSI CdRom Device
Audio
High Definition Audio Device
Yes Windows 7 runs TRIM & does it well, especially if it was a clean install to the SSD. In that case, the OS will adjust to it residing there & will send the TRIM commands as needed. Garbage Collection (GC) takes place during idle time, like when one walks away from the computer for awhile & the screensaver kicks in.
Some SSD's has downloadable software to manually run TRIM when needed or desired (XP & Vista doesn't send these commands), but Windows 7 & 8 users can run it too.
I know that Intel & Samsung has this software, can't speak for other brands. Just noticed that you have an Intel SSD too, of the same size as mine. Intel is the only brand that I know of whom offers the 180GB size SSD. Not too little, not too much. Mine dual boots Windows 7 & 8.1 Pro with room to spare.
That Intel Core 2 Duo E8500 is a stout CPU, though it's considered end of life by Intel, it still runs circles around many of today's lower cost computers with mushy CPU's. They throw in 6-8GB RAM that one can never access to make them think they got a killer deal.
Did you build that rig?
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Some SSD's has downloadable software to manually run TRIM when needed or desired (XP & Vista doesn't send these commands), but Windows 7 & 8 users can run it too.
I know that Intel & Samsung has this software, can't speak for other brands. Just noticed that you have an Intel SSD too, of the same size as mine. Intel is the only brand that I know of whom offers the 180GB size SSD. Not too little, not too much. Mine dual boots Windows 7 & 8.1 Pro with room to spare.
That Intel Core 2 Duo E8500 is a stout CPU, though it's considered end of life by Intel, it still runs circles around many of today's lower cost computers with mushy CPU's. They throw in 6-8GB RAM that one can never access to make them think they got a killer deal.
Did you build that rig?
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Yea, I built the rig myself... at the time I built it it was a best value for the long-haul kinda PC... comparable rigs from major maufactuers were running $1800-$2400, I tricked this out for under $900.
The EVGA board is Tri-SLI capable - I actually had three cards in it at one time but I dumped two since I don't game anymore.
The memory is over-clocked Corsair Dominator memory - could use an extra 4gigs but it works just fine for what I use it for so I haven't bothered.
I love the 750w Corsair Power Supply - only beef is it isn't modular.
Stuffed it all in an Antec Nine Hundred ATX Midtower (Black Steel), tricked the chip out with a really nice Zalman CPU cooler despite the fact that I haven't summoned the bravery to overclock the CPU yet (if there was a piece of software to do this safely I would be interested)
Right now my only real hardware issue is that the CPU fan runs faster than it should after the computer wakes up - started doing it when I upgraded to the SSD.
It's recommended to disable Sleep & Hibernate when running from SSD.
To disable hibernation open cmd, copy this & paste & press Enter:
powercfg.exe /hibernate off
Source:
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/920730
You can also download & install the Intel SSD Toolbox, there is a System Tuner option that will ensure the correct settings are enabled for best performance/longevity of your Intel SSD. Plus will check for firmware updates. Your 530 series is listed, I checked the specs you posted above.
https://downloadcenter.intel.com/Detail_Desc.aspx?DwnldID=18455
Hope this is of assistance to you.
I haven't fully built a PC, but have pieced many together of mostly trashed parts.
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To disable hibernation open cmd, copy this & paste & press Enter:
powercfg.exe /hibernate off
Source:
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/920730
You can also download & install the Intel SSD Toolbox, there is a System Tuner option that will ensure the correct settings are enabled for best performance/longevity of your Intel SSD. Plus will check for firmware updates. Your 530 series is listed, I checked the specs you posted above.
https://downloadcenter.intel.com/Detail_Desc.aspx?DwnldID=18455
Hope this is of assistance to you.
I haven't fully built a PC, but have pieced many together of mostly trashed parts.
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