Oh the Horror! Another Explode Episode!

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    Hey, after reading all this I have to say - we do not know much of anything about how they deal with each other and their child - when children are involved there are at least 3 different sides to a story. :oops: Hopefully this is a 1 off and they can work through it. I can look back on a few things I did that did not show a good side to me.:shock: Also any of you perfect people - feel free to cast the first stone. :lol: :pop: PS I was a SINGLE Mom and yes the child came first. :p

    I would never cast a stone -- I might throw other things though :w00t:

    Personally, I don't form opinions one way or the other regarding the OP's problem -- reason being is because I am not there and do not know what goes on behind closed doors. I am not going to indict another person from one event only. While some may feel that this one event justifies viewing their entire marriage as being flawed, I do not look at things like that. People, and life in general, are far more complex for that. Yes, I feel there were things mentioned by the OP that were not too cool but that doesn't mean everything is wrong/flawed in their marriage and child rearing. I know I have done lots of stupid mistakes in my life (still do) and performed many flawed actions.
     

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    I wouldn't describe the actions as psychotic at all. There's no indications that she has hallucinations or delusions. Just anger at being told to F-off, which at worst I would say is a sign of young age.

    While blowing up and throwing and breaking things does seem a bit extreme to someone of my age, I'm also aware that age has brought me wisdom and patience that I didn't have when I was much younger. If I were in my late teens to early 20s and someone told me to F-off when I was asking them for help, throwing a tank into the wall wouldn't have been out of the possible responses I would have had either. Especially if I was asking for help with my baby. When my daughter was a baby I was the primary caregiver. I not only changed and fed her on a regular basis, I was the one making trips to the pediatrician, getting up in the middle of the night to take care of her while my wife slept, missing work when my daughter was sick (And she had a REALLY rough stomach virus once where she was vomiting for 10 days straight, and couldn't even hold down a single teaspoon of liquid), etc... My wife was at a new job that required a lot of overtime and I took over the primary responsibility for caring for our daughter. My wife and I had been together for 7 years at that point, but I would have blown up at her if she had ever told me to F-off when I asked for help, no matter how trivial the help I needed was.

    In many ways I can relate to the mother's side of the issue more than the fathers, despite being a male myself. Does it require two people to bathe a baby? No, it really doesn't. BUT... if she's already put in a full day of caring for the kid, plus possibly having her own job to deal with, plus the normal domestic issues that we all have, she should certainly be able to ask for a bit of help and have every expectation that he give it without complaint. It's just as much his baby as it is hers, and she's already doing most of the work. He can certainly give any care for that child that is asked of him, and he should without question or complaint.

    And he needs to keep in mind that this is just the beginning and it gets harder as his child gets older. My daughter is coming up on her 14th birthday and it's not at all unusual for me to come home from work and only get 15-20 minutes to sit and rest before I spend the next 2-3 hours helping my daughter with her homework. I rarely get to do what I want until well after 8PM. But that's the responsibility I signed up for when I got married and had a child. She comes first, ALWAYS.

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    And I wouldn't have it any other way.


    My advice to the OP would be to remember, there are no do-overs when it comes to parenting. Get it right the first time and the results will last a lifetime. Get it wrong and that too will last a lifetime.

    It seems a bit psycho to me to *start* bathing a baby and not having baby shampoo, towels, etc, right to hand -- and then, to cover her own ill-preparation, she starts making demands -- no "please," no "honey, could you..." -- just demands. Men don't respond well to that, and if she's old enough to procreate, she's old enough to know that. Naturally he didn't respond well -- he's a man! And then, frustrated at being constantly interrupted, I agree, his words to her were very ill-chosen -- but then the psycho in the mom REALLY steps up! :facepalm:

    Not sure either of them is really ready for parenthood.

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    It seems a bit psycho to me to *start* bathing a baby and not having baby shampoo, towels, etc, right to hand -- and then, to cover her own ill-preparation, she starts making demands -- no "please," no "honey, could you..." -- just demands. Men don't respond well to that, and if she's old enough to procreate, she's old enough to know that. Naturally he didn't respond well -- he's a man! And then, frustrated at being constantly interrupted, I agree, his words to her were very ill-chosen -- but then the psycho in the mom REALLY steps up! :facepalm:

    Not sure either of them is really ready for parenthood.

    Andria
    I agree. I always did the bath alone and always took what i needed before i took the babys. I give my stinky poodle i bath every week too,and collect what i need before hand. Sure sometimes a little extra hand is nice to have but being prepared for the job at hand goes along way too. The grumpy sneaks in too though for everyone,just sometimes.
     
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    OK, since people want to pick this post apart let's break it down

    It w early morning and all was well.

    The wife was bathing the baby, and I was topping off the KFv4 prior to my morning vapefast.

    which says... every morning no matter what is going on (like his wife giving the baby a bath) he takes that time for himself to do what he wants, have a vapefest, instead of helping out and/or participating in the care of his child.

    "Give me baby shampoo", the directive came.

    I capitulated and went back to filling the tank.

    she is asking for help, period, but he doesn't get the message and instead only takes a brief moment away from himself to hand her some shampoo and runs back to continue to do what he wants to be doing, his morning vapefest

    "Give me towl", I stepped away, obeyed, continued.

    she tries to get the message across again, she wants help, period, he still doesn't get the message only takes a brief moment away from himself to hand her the towel and runs back to continue to do what he wants to be doing, his morning vapefest

    "Give me hot water", the demand came loud and purposeful.

    "Yeh okay, one minute" I replied, frustrated and trying to complete the job in hand, "Let me do this first".

    now her frustration level is rising, she has given him two "hints" she wants help, period, which he ignores in favor of tending to his own wants and then lets her know he feels what he wants to do is more important than helping out and/or participating in the care of his child, so, she naturally vents her rising frustration and launches a verbal attack (as follows) on his daily morning activity hoping he will finally get the message, she wants help, period.

    "Always smoking" the accusation was an invitation to the fight, "water yes, no" the challenge.

    obviously not the first time this selfish behavior on his part has been "debated" and obviously in spite of previous "discussions" nothing changes so the fight continues to escalate.

    "F-off an give me a minutes" the ill advised reply.

    he tells her in no uncertain terms he doesn't care what she wants, he feels what he is doing at that moment is more important.

    She crossed the room like a thing possessed. Grabbed up my beloved Vaper Flask an launched it across the room.

    It cleared the living room and landed in a puddle on the bathroom floor!

    ultimate frustration breaking point achieved, verbal communication (obviously on numerous occasions) has failed to achieve the desired results, time to get rid of "the thing" that seems to means more to him then helping out and/or participating in the care of his child

    Harsh words were exchanged, I went salvage what I could.

    as the fight continues to escalate and he turns his back on her to go after "the thing" she feels he cares about a lot more than he should.

    The half filled KFv4 flew over my head and shattered against the tiled wall.

    The KFv4 is no more :(

    are we surprised at this point in the argument at this action on her part?

    I stripped out the batteries from the VF, shook off the excess water, observing the dents near the 510, the battery cap, and t scuff on the otherwise immaculate body [oh the horror!].

    um yeah....... she has no cause to think this means more to him than......than.....

    As I left the house, approximately 15 x 30ml bottles of shop bought and DIY juice shattered both before and behind my path.

    I escaped with just the battered VF and a single 30ml of DIY juice.

    so..... rather than trying to work things out like adults and stop this ongoing fight...... but, she was nice enough to try and make sure he had enough juice to take with him


    My local vape store were great, if a little under stocked.

    I came away with a Goblin Mini, they installed dual coils reading 0.5ohms, and despite my fear that 12mg would be too harsh in a dual coil configuration, it's vaping great at 22w with the airflow full open.

    Flavour is much reduced when compared to the B-KFv4, but has great vapour production.

    o_O

    Licking my wounds over a beer, with only a Goblin Mini for company :(

    I am confused why the sad face here, he is with what seems to matters the most to him and doing what he wants to do, tending to himself....:nah:

    Hope you all have a better weekend!

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    I had a girlfriend that would do the same thing.... she was never prepared for the work at hand, and would ask for this, that and whatever one thing at a time... why not just ask for a kit/bundle of the things needed instead of the onesies.... kinda like saying we need milk from the store, go and get it come back home.... ohh we need cerial too, go and get it and come back home... ohh we need butter... ummm just make a freegin list why dont ya????
     

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    Post partem can also cause what they call stupid baby symdrome.

    Mom can get where her brain is useless for even the most menial tasks.

    Add depression and anything can be crippling.

    My youngest is 4 and sometimes I still have to be the wife's brain from 2800 miles away.

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    That could be looked at from the other side as well.....perhaps his morning vape fest is his only real time to himself, perhaps she KNOWS he takes one every morning. Perhaps, if she wanted help with the baby, she could have waited to start, but wanted to create a confrontation over something she feels jealous over since she isn't a part of, because husband's/wives aren't allowed to have anything to themselves.

    See what we can do with pure speculation?
    That's what your "break down" amounts to.

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    I had a girlfriend that would do the same thing.... she was never prepared for the work at hand, and would ask for this, that and whatever one thing at a time... why not just ask for a kit/bundle of the things needed instead of the onesies.... kinda like saying we need milk from the store, go and get it come back home.... ohh we need cerial too, go and get it and come back home... ohh we need butter... ummm just make a freegin list why dont ya????

    Some women just need a lot of things. Just look at the amount of products they have in bathrooms...
     
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    Some women just need a lot of things. Just look at the amount of products they have in bathrooms...
    really.... my razors are always dull.... even when I only use it once....

    I think that's Kinda his point. If they are dull throw em out and get new.


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    Everyone has their "thing"
    That thing they do for themselves. I'm sure she has hers as well. I wonder what would happen if the situation was reversed? How would she responded if he was interrupting her thing with something he could have been better prepared for?

    Lots of posts about "baby comes first", and this is true. But we can't discern from this post by the OP that he doesn't put the baby first....putting your child first doesn't mean everything else in your life stops. All we can truly discern is that he chose the wording of his response poorly, and that her response was irresponsibly violent....we also don't know if that is a one off response or a trend. But in my experience, violence like that is seldom an isolated event. It usually escalates.
    Children can be extremely frustrating....I really hope that if this is how she responds to being frustrated, she is capable of restraining such responses to the child.

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    stevegmu

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    in a shoe box under the kitchen sink.... :)
    are you sure you want to move in with Sandra?

    There's a little space there on top of the washing machine by the hair dryer.
    Of course. Getting used to eating Smakoun could be tough, though...
    I do plan on having a fishing cabin in the wilderness also, although I don't fish, and have men's night in Prague with the guys on Fridays...
    I don't think they have GFI in CR. Worse they are either 220 or 230 volt holes...
     
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    This is Sandra's bathroom. Don't know where I'll put my stuff when I move in...


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    Wow.... and I thought I had a OCD product problem! :/

    OP.....
    Seems you both are under some (alot) of stress. .. counseling would help. . And if it doesnt... it can't hurt.
    I think she was trying to hint for help. .. you guys need open communication so she could just ask for help..
    Anyway.... raising kids needs 2 parents.... do everything you can to keep it (2) parents....
    It's easy to get new vape gear... alot harder trying to find a new significant other.... just my 2 cents....
    Best of luck. ..
    in a shoe box under the kitchen sink.... :)
    are you sure you want to move in with Sandra?

    are those plugs GFI protected??? ;)
     
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