A have an oil based PA flavor that I would like to experiment with. What is the safest percentage without risk of killing an atty. I was thinking about 2 or 3 drops to 5 or 10 ml.
Oil Based Flavor
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It's pretty strong smelling stuff. Seems pretty concentrated. Im gonna have to mess around with it tonight. Prolly wont like the flavor, just wanted to see how close it really was.
I use one drop per 2 ml for most oils. They are quite strong. And I add a drop of vodka for each drop of oil. I haven't had any problems with my atties at all. 
From other posts the "Oil" as we know it is not really "Oil" that is not able to mix with water.
It is what they call the concentrated juice. I have been vaping Cin Oil for about 24 hours with about 20-25% (+clove oil) and no clogged atty.
Research this, I have had good luck.
I did add about 5% butter Rum flavor for the PGA lung hit/Throat Kick, but I do not think it is an issue like we all thought.
I bought some Atomic Cinnicide, and that was a huge percentage Cin. Oil.
Try it, attys are disposable anyway. If you find the perfect mix and it only cost you one atty's price... need I say more?
It is what they call the concentrated juice. I have been vaping Cin Oil for about 24 hours with about 20-25% (+clove oil) and no clogged atty.
Research this, I have had good luck.
I did add about 5% butter Rum flavor for the PGA lung hit/Throat Kick, but I do not think it is an issue like we all thought.
I bought some Atomic Cinnicide, and that was a huge percentage Cin. Oil.
Try it, attys are disposable anyway. If you find the perfect mix and it only cost you one atty's price... need I say more?
Well, there is also the matter of keeping some things rather out of your lungs ... FA for example, the oil soluble ones are, AFAIK, based on sunflower oil. I'd rather not inhale that if I don't absolutely have to.
They shouldn't mix in PG if they are truly oil. You can test by putting a drop of Vegetable Oil (corn, canola, or sunflower) in some PG and see if it does or does not mix. My guess is that it will not. If it does see if it will, then see if it eventually separates, like Italian dressing always does.
Clove, and Cinnamon Oil do mix find in PG and do not separate from what I have see so far.
Let us know if I am wrong.
Clove, and Cinnamon Oil do mix find in PG and do not separate from what I have see so far.
Let us know if I am wrong.
@clownfish- What oil is it? Just wondering.
"Oil" is just a common name for fats that are liquid at room temperature. "Essential oil" is a common name for flavor extracts with only the so called essential components.
The actual chemicals in lime oil, for example, are a-pinene, b-pinene, myrcene, limonene, terpinolene, 1,8-ceneole, linalool, borneol, citral and traces of neral acetate and geranyl acetate. None of these are fats and they mostly should vaporize and shouldn't be harmful in their amounts.
Eugenol (clove extract) is likewise not a fat. The molecular structure and its decomposition is what is important, not solubility.
Cinnamon oil is mostly Cinnamaldehyde and Eugenol. Cinnamaldehyde is fine in small amounts.
"Oil" is just a common name for fats that are liquid at room temperature. "Essential oil" is a common name for flavor extracts with only the so called essential components.
The actual chemicals in lime oil, for example, are a-pinene, b-pinene, myrcene, limonene, terpinolene, 1,8-ceneole, linalool, borneol, citral and traces of neral acetate and geranyl acetate. None of these are fats and they mostly should vaporize and shouldn't be harmful in their amounts.
Eugenol (clove extract) is likewise not a fat. The molecular structure and its decomposition is what is important, not solubility.
Cinnamon oil is mostly Cinnamaldehyde and Eugenol. Cinnamaldehyde is fine in small amounts.
Its a mary jane flavor. It is oil based so I was wondering if it would cause an atty problem.
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It is a mary jane FLAVOR not an extract and certainly NOT a drug! It is a sample flavor from PA that was sent to me so I wanted to try it and see how the flavor is.
Disclaimer:
It is a mary jane FLAVOR not an extract and certainly NOT a drug! It is a sample flavor from PA that was sent to me so I wanted to try it and see how the flavor is.
Now I wouldn't be vaping "Snake Oil" or any "Has...(ish)" type oils, as those may be to .....
Resin-ish goo may clog and atty, even if diluted. Maybe with PGA...hmmmm?
Resin-ish goo may clog and atty, even if diluted. Maybe with PGA...hmmmm?
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WTF? Are you a chemist? Vape-Ninja even?
It would be nice to keep contacts with "THE KNOWLEDGEABLE" for possible future "LIMITATIONS" in availability of the things of which we discuss upon this 4um, if you are a chemist of sorts.
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I am not a chemist. If anything chemical were limited, it would still be illegal for a chemist to use it for anything other than research studies though.
I noticed that the Tangerine oil from TPA separates. It's been sitting in a base of 70%PG 30% VG with .5% PGA for over a week and still separating. Is that okay??
Hey Clown if you wait a little bit the Maryjane was sent in oil base and was wrong Linda will be getting it in water soluble and the oil base flavor of it is quite nasty I already tried it
I have the same thing with the Tangerine GoodDog and it seems to blend fine nd theres been no problem with atties on it and it tastes great
Shake before using and you shouldn't have a problem. I use it all the time. I do add several drops of high proof vodka to help it emulsify.
I do not know what TPA is, but mine never separated (Lorann Orange Oil) in any of my mixes even with clove oil, and such.
I was adding just a bit of PGA, but I never really made a bunch of VG. Mostly VG/PG mixes with a bit of water before I wanted the TH back.
With the Oils I always added a bit of PGA, more than .5%. Try 5%.
I did however clog more than one atty with 20% Lorann Anise, I do not know why...
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TPA is "The Perfumer's Apprentice". My sample mix bottle has a yellow oil ring at the top of the juice. It goes away for awhile when I shake it but always comes back after it sits a short time and I added a few more drops of 80 proof Vodka.
The alcohol has most likely evaporated, and if you add a bit more it might evaporate before it has time to dissolve the oil. It's fine as long as it tastes fine, since mixing the oil with the alcohol doesn't get rid of anything, it just makes it mix more evenly with the rest of the liquid.
Extraction and isolation is research, yes? Say a PG base...end result. hehee
I seem to recall that I got some "Research" in 75mg/ml but it was a bit pricey. It is a bit cheaper now that more people know about this forum, and share the wealth of information gained in our collective here.
Good thing I am a test subject/volunteer on homebrew CRT (Cigarette Replacement Therapy).
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