OK, I look at the Safe Vaping Chart 2.0 and still am confused

[sos2001]

I use the iTaste vv/vw v3 as my primary device...and 100%VG as PG reacts badly in my system. I use the Kanger aero mini and Mega with 2 ohm dual coil upgraded....and the Aspire nautilus biggie and mini with the 1.6 ohm BVC.

I hear and read of wild disparity between what the chart says and what others say they run their voltage and wattage at to get the best vape. I guess I'm looking for is a suggestion from the veterans as to a general setting for the best experience so I'll put down the last few analogs.

I get OK flavor and decent vapor using the chart, but am I missing that "HOLY CRAP!" moment by being conservative???????

 

[Circa Survivor]

That chart is really outdated.

 

[Shootist]

That chart is really outdated.

That chart is NOT Outdated. It is a GOOD STARTING point that's all. Most vapers can go by it just fine. I vape in the range the chart shows and don't prefer higher wattages on any of the devices I use.

To the OP.

It is ALL Personal Preference. What one person likes doesn't mean that is good for everyone.

Just turn it up, voltage or wattage, and try it out. If you like it higher than the chart shows fine. If not turn it back down.

 

[bm2112]

VG is thicker than PG and I've found that a slightly higher voltage works better when using 100% VG. I would start at the lowest setting and go up in voltages by .1 until you find your sweet spot.

 

[XBarbarian]

ya.. it is somewhat comical really. I dont think the chart is outdated per se... but I sure see a lot of folks raving about running stuff, even Nautilus.. at 15+ watts..

too hot for me.. and increases the likelihood of dry hits.. but I like my Russian at 11 watts.. which is high according to the charts. should be at around 8 watts..
I think part of it is from the mech mod stuff.. since folks are getting significantly higher watts with unregulated devices.. it sort of flows over to all..

but in the end.. its about preference. at the higher 11 watts .. I do get some more flavor.. but much above that.. and its too hot for me.. which Ive found to increase in vaper's tongue as well..

 

[Mrdaputer]

I use the iTaste vv/vw v3 as my primary device...and 100%VG as PG reacts badly in my system. I use the Kanger aero mini and Mega with 2 ohm dual coil upgraded....and the Aspire Nautilus biggie and mini with the 1.6 ohm BVC.

I hear and read of wild disparity between what the chart says and what others say they run their voltage and wattage at to get the best vape. I guess I'm looking for is a suggestion from the veterans as to a general setting for the best experience so I'll put down the last few analogs.

I get OK flavor and decent vapor using the chart, but am I missing that "HOLY CRAP!" moment by being conservative???????

A general rule of thumb is +2 -.2 0.... So 2 ohm coil is +2=4 - .2 =3.8. 3.8 could be your starting point. Most ppl start out low then click it up .1 at a time until it tastes good to them or it tastes a little burnt then take it down a click or 2.. If you want to do watts start at 6 then go up .5 till it tastes good or a little burnt then down a click or 2

 

[dice57]

The chart is an average for average, beginning to intermediate vapers.

A lot of improvements in vape since the chart was made, and I vape past the borderlines. With the right wicking and air supply, great batts or high amp regulated mods, the chart is used for wiping up juice spills.

30-96 is where I vape at. average in the 70's. Have been at it for a year though, started at like 6 watts

 

[realsis]

You will vape at different wattages with different flavors. It's all about what YOU like best weather it's 15 or 50 watts assuming your device is made to safely handle the wattage. There is NO set maximum and minimum. The flavors are enhanced by either increasing or lowering your wattage.which ever tastes best to YOU. Many times people ask this question and will get many different answers when the fact is there is NO SET SPECIFIC Wattage or voltage as long as it does not exceed the batteries capibility. One juice might taste great at 15 watts while another at 30, while another at 11. It's just a personal preference. I've vaped between 15 to 50. It's all about what YOU think tastes best. Me personally, I don't vape lower than 15 watts but that's just me. My hubby on the order hand thinks my vape is too warm and he prefers a lower wattage. I think it tastes far better at a higher wattage. But you see it all depends on you. So expirement and see what you like best.

 

[Rickajho]

That chart is NOT Outdated.

Yes it is.

It is a GOOD STARTING point that's all.

No it isn't.

If that were true we wouldn't have thread after thread showing up here from people who looked at that chart and the suggested data and end up here with the same questions again and again. That chart is a throw back to the days when you only had two choices: stock attys and cartos, and were dealing with batteries that might blow up if you strayed outside the suggested ranges.

That chart takes nothing into account about the "not stock atty or carto" design of the device you are using, the wicking action of the device you are using, your liquid and it's viscosity, the liquids flavor components and how they react to heat, the age of your coil and the amount of gunk on the wick and coil, even the persons vaping style that comes into play in determining a proper setting.... shall I go on?

Dump the chart - period - and just keep it simple. Start any new coil no matter what the resistance - hell any new liquid for that matter - at your lowest available voltage or wattage setting and bump it up until you get the flavor you are looking for. "The chart" has been responsible for a lot of crappy vape experiences, clutching onto the barest mathematics of physics while ignoring all other aspects of vaping hardware and liquids in the process.

 

[BiLLi0]

VG is thicker than PG and I've found that a slightly higher voltage works better when using 100% VG. I would start at the lowest setting and go up in voltages by .1 until you find your sweet spot.

Same for me. It also burns a bit faster. I'd say that my 100%VG lasts about 75% of the PG/VG (same voltage).

 

[Ryedan]

Agreed Rickajho

With all the variables to vaping and all the different attys available these days there is no better way to find the best power level for you than starting low and working up until you either get what you want, or the vape becomes a bit burnt and you have to back down a bit. After vaping a tank, or any atty for a while you'll know what your typical range is and this all becomes easy.

 

[sos2001]

Thanks for all the input....time to sit down tonight and do some experimenting!!!!

 

[Shootist]

No reason to go on because everything you said is PERSONAL PREFERENCES!!!!!!!
Not Cut In Stone and is dependent on many different factors.

So again that chart is not outdated. It "IS" a Good Staring point for new people starting to vape.

Yes it is.



No it isn't.

If that were true we wouldn't have thread after thread showing up here from people who looked at that chart and the suggested data and end up here with the same questions again and again. That chart is a throw back to the days when you only had two choices: stock attys and cartos, and were dealing with batteries that might blow up if you strayed outside the suggested ranges.

That chart takes nothing into account about the "not stock atty or carto" design of the device you are using, the wicking action of the device you are using, your liquid and it's viscosity, the liquids flavor components and how they react to heat, the age of your coil and the amount of gunk on the wick and coil, even the persons vaping style that comes into play in determining a proper setting.... shall I go on?

Dump the chart - period - and just keep it simple. Start any new coil no matter what the resistance - hell any new liquid for that matter - at your lowest available voltage or wattage setting and bump it up until you get the flavor you are looking for. "The chart" has been responsible for a lot of crappy vape experiences, clutching onto the barest mathematics of physics while ignoring all other aspects of vaping hardware and liquids in the process.

 

[Coldrake]

So again that chart is not outdated. It "IS" a Good Staring point for new people starting to vape.

For the general vaping public it is outdated. Read Rickajho's post again. It's a good starting point if you are using old style clearos like Kanger T4s, but if you are using anything remotely recent, not so much.