With your help, I got the cartridge on and was getting lots of vapor and no bad taste the first few hits. The 2nd day, no or little vapor, burning taste. I did what was suggested for that..adding some liquid, but it didn't help. Does the atomizer/battery need recharging already? After only a few hits? The red light comes on when I drag on it ....but /???? Thanks in advance!
Ok what am I doing wrong now?
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if the light comes on when you drag on it the battery is not likely dead, but when you say you added "some" liquid how much did you add?....sounds like you are still running dry to me....
What did you put the liquid into?
(Sorry if it seems a silly question, but you wanted to know if your atty needed charging so it makes me wonder.)
If you put too much juice in an atty, like 4 drops, it can flood. If you put 4 drops in the cart, that's barely enough to get it damp.
(Sorry if it seems a silly question, but you wanted to know if your atty needed charging so it makes me wonder.)
If you put too much juice in an atty, like 4 drops, it can flood. If you put 4 drops in the cart, that's barely enough to get it damp.
That'
s true, a lot of people when they first start out they think "dripping is into the cart, it's an honest mistake, and easy to make when you don't know what's what.
My suggestion is to go to the mod forum and check out the cart section. I had a very similar experience with the DSE901 when I got it. Tried the straw mod, very easy one to do, and it made all the difference.
I think that as a new user especially people puff away too quickly at their e-cig. The wick doesn't have time to draw enough fluid from the cartridge before the next puff. Any of the mods that help a cart flow better will help with this problem.
I know for me once I found the straw mod and learned to take a breath or two at least between puffs it all changed. No more dry or burnt tasting draws. Nothing but good now
I think that as a new user especially people puff away too quickly at their e-cig. The wick doesn't have time to draw enough fluid from the cartridge before the next puff. Any of the mods that help a cart flow better will help with this problem.
I know for me once I found the straw mod and learned to take a breath or two at least between puffs it all changed. No more dry or burnt tasting draws. Nothing but good now
Sorry, didn't give you the model..it's a Joye 510. I dropped about 5 drops....maybe 4, it's hard to squeeze with my old arthritic hands. I put it in the atomizer I think. I pulled off the cartridge and dropped it into that thingy (not the cartridge). Yeah the atomizer. Um what's a straw? I hate being new! Also in the u tube at Cignot the guy seems to drag on it for a pretty long time so that's what I did. Oh and it's the manual battery. The other one isn't.
HI Patzi
Are you doing any better now? Your arthritic hands struck a familiar note and I thought I'd offer my help if your still having trouble.
If not then great! Happy Vaping
Whatever you do, don't give up, it is completely worth the learning and it gets much much easier.
Are you doing any better now? Your arthritic hands struck a familiar note and I thought I'd offer my help if your still having trouble.
If not then great! Happy Vaping
Whatever you do, don't give up, it is completely worth the learning and it gets much much easier.
No worries Patzi! Sounds like you just flooded the atomizer. (That's the part that's attached to the battery, not where you're putting your lips!) I find that 2 drops, maximum, is enough to do it on the atomizer!
If it's flooded, you'll hear a bit of a gurgling noise and you won't be getting a lot of vapor. VERY easy to fix! Just unscrew the atty from the battery, put your lips on the big end, (not the one with the screws) and blow the excess juice out, lightly, either into the sink of something or into a paper towel or Kleenex. Then, make sure you clean the threads off nicely and screw it back on. If you get a burnt taste then, you've blown a bit too hard, just drip a drop or two back onto it.
If your hands give you a hard time, try this, you won't have to refill so often.....take the polyfill out of the mouthpiece, (cartridge). See how long it is? You only need about 1/4 of that stuff! Just cut it with a sharp pair of scissors, (I use the nail ones), and fill up the mouthpiece with liquid. I find I can get anywhere between 10-12 drops in there. You just fill it up to the point where it fits into the atty. Then, pop your little piece of polyfill on the top, give the fluff a few drops and pop the mouthpiece onto your ecig and you're off!
If you get a burnt taste, give the atty one or two drops. The OTHER thing to look for is the polyfill itself. Sometimes one of the the little threads comes down and touches the atty and burns. Just make sure all the little threads/hairs are tucked in.
I know it seems like a lot of work, but it REALLY isn't and it'll be a LOT easier on your poor sore hands!!
Hope this helps!!!
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I use a 510 and 5 drops on the atomizer will usually flood it. The light will go on but no vapor. That sounds to me like the trouble you are having. Try blowing the atomizer out into a napkin to "clear" it. Then, drip only 2-3 drops at most and enjoy the vapor. Remember to take a long, slow, gentle puff (5-6 seconds). Best of luck to you. There is a bit of learning involved but it will come quickly. Just hang in there. It gets really good if you give it some time.
Hi friend, I know those first few days, weeks, can be a little frustrating sometimes. I've had success with my 510 after a week of trial and error.
Could it be the cartridge that's burning? Take the cart and look at the top and see if the sides seem melted. On a new cart, I'll usually vape for a few until it gets hot and then remove the cart and cut slivers off the top. Easier to cut if its hot, not too much, just that top ml. Have gotten into the habit of cutting all my carts so they don't burn.
The atomizer is too dry or too wet. The burning taste is a dry atty. The gurgling noise is a too wet atty. Get into the habit of blowing the atty from the thread side now and then. Clean it every few days too. I use the "coca cola" method as don't have any hard grain alcohol. The dry atty needs more juice. The filler material in the cart is too dry or too wet. Back and forth, I know.
I don't like it when my filler is too wet as this clogs and won't vape. I usually start with clean filler and put @ 3 drops on my my filler and then @ 2 drops on my atty bridge. Then vape, vape away. A burning taste lets me know I need more juice and so I do the same all over again, minus the clean filler of course. About 2 times a day I toss my filler and add more. Its a cheap large bag so I don't mind.
Battery charging - the batteries will work much better (more draw, more cloud of vapor) when they're fully charged. I usually have 3 going at once, 1 in my PCC, 1 on the wall charger and 1 in my mouth. After a bit, you'll instinctively know when the charge is low and to put it on the charger.
Juice - Vg will offer you a larger vapor cloud hands down. Hard to know with some dealers what the VG/PG ratio is. If clouds of vapor are your goal, you need to seek out more VG. If taste is your preference, you need more Pg.
No method is perfect and you just gotta try and try again until you find yours.
Good luck and happy vaping.
Could it be the cartridge that's burning? Take the cart and look at the top and see if the sides seem melted. On a new cart, I'll usually vape for a few until it gets hot and then remove the cart and cut slivers off the top. Easier to cut if its hot, not too much, just that top ml. Have gotten into the habit of cutting all my carts so they don't burn.
The atomizer is too dry or too wet. The burning taste is a dry atty. The gurgling noise is a too wet atty. Get into the habit of blowing the atty from the thread side now and then. Clean it every few days too. I use the "coca cola" method as don't have any hard grain alcohol. The dry atty needs more juice. The filler material in the cart is too dry or too wet. Back and forth, I know.
I don't like it when my filler is too wet as this clogs and won't vape. I usually start with clean filler and put @ 3 drops on my my filler and then @ 2 drops on my atty bridge. Then vape, vape away. A burning taste lets me know I need more juice and so I do the same all over again, minus the clean filler of course. About 2 times a day I toss my filler and add more. Its a cheap large bag so I don't mind.
Battery charging - the batteries will work much better (more draw, more cloud of vapor) when they're fully charged. I usually have 3 going at once, 1 in my PCC, 1 on the wall charger and 1 in my mouth. After a bit, you'll instinctively know when the charge is low and to put it on the charger.
Juice - Vg will offer you a larger vapor cloud hands down. Hard to know with some dealers what the VG/PG ratio is. If clouds of vapor are your goal, you need to seek out more VG. If taste is your preference, you need more Pg.
No method is perfect and you just gotta try and try again until you find yours.
Good luck and happy vaping.
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to make it clear....the fluid goes in the part you pulled off.....you should fill it with drops until the fiber looks a bit wet....
Well I think it needed charging...I charged my others (should have done that right away but didn't realize the charge doesn't last very long). I think it's a matter of getting used to how to inhale and stuff. Unfortunately it's making me want a cig real bad. GRRRRRRRRR
Hi. I'm a new user, also. I use a 510 and an Ego (Which is a 510 on a bigger battery. I've had lots of bad days with my ecigs. These are my findings:
As a smoker of analogs (regular cigs), I found that you can't "draw" on the ecig like you do on a regular cig (analog). If I "pull" too hard on the ecig, I get a burnt taste/smell that makes me want to gag. I think that the fluid in the cart isn't wicking to the atty (the heating part) fast enough and I am burning dry. I've learned not to totally seal my lips around the ecig and draw a more light and airy inhale. It's also a good idea to give a few seconds between draws. This lets the liquid wick to the heating part (the atty).
Second thing I have problems with is flooding the atty. I know this seems contrary when you read the first paragraph of this note, but I think I was trying to overcompensate for the dryness. This created even more problems. I would clean, vape, be dry, add liquid, flood and back to clean. I tried dripping, but never could get the hang of that. Too much attention to the ecig ... that wasn't for me.
Don't make the mistake of thinking a bigger "power" source will solve your problem. I feel it is a combination of atty and cart problems. All the mods out there for carts will back up my theory on the carts, at least.
I am still looking for the right combination for me, but don't feel as though it's JUST you. from what I understand, this technology is still very new. I wish there was a larger cart (more juice so I don't have to mess with that as often) and a more user-proof atty available.
Find the right cleaning method for you and clean all the attys you are having consistant trouble with. Experiment with different cart mods (modifications). The PTB stands for pyramid tea bag (Lipton makes these). There is one called the straw mod. The ZFM stands for zero filler mod (and that's the one I'm hoping will work for me seeing as how it allows the maximum amount of juice).
I hope I helped some.
Lisa
As a smoker of analogs (regular cigs), I found that you can't "draw" on the ecig like you do on a regular cig (analog). If I "pull" too hard on the ecig, I get a burnt taste/smell that makes me want to gag. I think that the fluid in the cart isn't wicking to the atty (the heating part) fast enough and I am burning dry. I've learned not to totally seal my lips around the ecig and draw a more light and airy inhale. It's also a good idea to give a few seconds between draws. This lets the liquid wick to the heating part (the atty).
Second thing I have problems with is flooding the atty. I know this seems contrary when you read the first paragraph of this note, but I think I was trying to overcompensate for the dryness. This created even more problems. I would clean, vape, be dry, add liquid, flood and back to clean. I tried dripping, but never could get the hang of that. Too much attention to the ecig ... that wasn't for me.
Don't make the mistake of thinking a bigger "power" source will solve your problem. I feel it is a combination of atty and cart problems. All the mods out there for carts will back up my theory on the carts, at least.
I am still looking for the right combination for me, but don't feel as though it's JUST you. from what I understand, this technology is still very new. I wish there was a larger cart (more juice so I don't have to mess with that as often) and a more user-proof atty available.
Find the right cleaning method for you and clean all the attys you are having consistant trouble with. Experiment with different cart mods (modifications). The PTB stands for pyramid tea bag (Lipton makes these). There is one called the straw mod. The ZFM stands for zero filler mod (and that's the one I'm hoping will work for me seeing as how it allows the maximum amount of juice).
I hope I helped some.
Lisa
Because no two people have the same tastes, absorb nicotine from vaping, puff the same amount, or even inhale the same, this is a very personal journey.
There are very very few of us who reached our comfort point with the first try... or the second... or the fifth... and sadly, some never get there.
But, patzi, I think you're a stubborn one and you'll find the way. And there is always someone here to give you a hand.
There are very very few of us who reached our comfort point with the first try... or the second... or the fifth... and sadly, some never get there.
But, patzi, I think you're a stubborn one and you'll find the way. And there is always someone here to give you a hand.
Your going thru what most of us have done.........this is a great place to ask questions, good luck, and happy vaping.
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