Well here goes...I started e-cigs in 08. Sometime in 09 I went back to the smokes, then in November 09 decided to give e-cigs a try again..so I ordered 2 different models, a generic 510 and a joye 510...well needless to say, they just didn't seem to work for me, but my husband likes them.....So I set out to find something that would work for me......I then came across the V4L sub forum and started reading...I decided to put my first order in on Christmas day, and am anxiously awaiting the arrival of my order. Hope this is the one that will stop me from picking up another smoke.