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Heh - my suggestion would be to build a microcoil and use cotton as the wick. Plenty of videos on YouTube you can search for walkthroughs of the build, but essentially, you wrap the coil around a jig (e.g., a 1/16th in drill bit), squeeze it together with tweezers, heat it up with a torch or lighter, take a bit of cotton (from, say, an organic cotton ball), roll it a bit, fit it through the coil, mount the coil in the atty (making sure the wick extends into the tank), cut off the excess, prime with juice, vape your face off. Of course, you also need to check for shorts and ensure your resistance is good.
I use 28 gauge kanthal, 12 wraps for about 1.5 ohms (nice and safe), and use a cooking torch (wife uses it to make creme brule) to heat/fuse the coil. I also mount the coil (leaving it on the drill bit to stabilize it for positioning) before inserting the wick (takes a little practice)
The key is to make sure the coil loops are tight (touching) and not overlapping.
I find this build takes all the fiddly bits out of the equation - the coil is tight, there are no hot legs or shorts (the wick is non-conductive), and the flavour and vapor are strong. It's also easy to swap out the wick with tweezers without having to remove the coil, resulting in easier maintenance/cleaning.
Sound like a lot of good things? Well, it is.
As always, make sure you are following safety protocols regarding batteries, resistances, and shorts. There is a good chance a dude named Baditude will be along shortly to get you some links to his blog on these and more.
I use 28 gauge kanthal, 12 wraps for about 1.5 ohms (nice and safe), and use a cooking torch (wife uses it to make creme brule) to heat/fuse the coil. I also mount the coil (leaving it on the drill bit to stabilize it for positioning) before inserting the wick (takes a little practice)
The key is to make sure the coil loops are tight (touching) and not overlapping.
I find this build takes all the fiddly bits out of the equation - the coil is tight, there are no hot legs or shorts (the wick is non-conductive), and the flavour and vapor are strong. It's also easy to swap out the wick with tweezers without having to remove the coil, resulting in easier maintenance/cleaning.
Sound like a lot of good things? Well, it is.
As always, make sure you are following safety protocols regarding batteries, resistances, and shorts. There is a good chance a dude named Baditude will be along shortly to get you some links to his blog on these and more.
Ah. Actually, you use the cotton instead of the SS mesh. You just pull it through the coil enough to reach into the tank (so, you'll end up with about 1 1/2 - 2 inches of wick. The key there is to use very little cotton - check online videos showing the builds or search "cotton wicks" here in the forum to see what I'm getting at there (sorry, I have no camera with me or else I'd snap a pic and show you).
The whole SS mesh thing is a pain (IMHO), comparatively.
I have not bought a genesis yet, but planning to. I started rebuilding about a month ago. It took me about 6-10 tries over the course of a couple of days and maybe 5 hours total to finally get the hang of it. I can build a micro-coil that looks perfect in less than 5 minutes now. It just takes practice. My local vape shop uses SS cable wick with a patch of ecowool at the top of it instead of mesh. It looks a lot easier. I'm lucky enough to have shops that will do your build for you for free. One shop in particular will do a build even if you did not buy the atomizer at their location, but of course I buy juice and other supplies from them.
+1 for the microcoil & cottonbuild.
Or just get a Kayfun-style RBA. Less potential for leakage
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Or just get a Kayfun-style RBA. Less potential for leakage
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Don't over-torch the mesh - one light pass will do... maybe try the drill bit method for the coil?
It just takes a little practice.
It just takes a little practice.
Just torch until it turns a different color from the color you received it as. Brown. You just want a microscopic layer of carbon separating the steel from the steel wire, otherwise you'll screw up the connection & it won't work. Also I recommend a thick gauge wire. 28-30 works best. Any thinner than 30 on some genesis tanks, and you'll get a hot spot between the wick and the center positive post. No good!
to add to the mesh setup after you get the hotspots out on a brand new mesh wick some times it may take a full tank or maybe 2 till you get to the point of no hotspots at all so dont give up buddy you will be glad later on cotton is fine too but when you master mesh you can enjoy any build out there
Yeah I hope so. I just went thru 2 ssmech failed hard. Kept getting hot spots
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eHuman has a great blog on wick and coil making for Genisis attys here. Pay particular attention to the part about getting rid of hot spots (shorts).
Good luck with it!
Good luck with it!
I'm always surprised when people say this, I had no problems at all learning to make SS wicks and coil them. I watched the Pbusardo video on the AGA-T2 build, part 2, and I was off and running. I found it to be a snap. Working out hot spots is also easy. I just use a dental pick and gently nudge the coil loops until I have a uniformly glowing coil. It never takes more than a minute for me.
A PBusardo Review - The AGA-T(s) - Part 2 - Assembly & Building Tutorial - YouTube
Genesis howto: [videos I found that work PERFECTLY for me]
A: prep the wire
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=doFbHya4lew
I twist 32ga wire together, 6-7wraps for 1.8ohm coils (I use a kick or APV's at 8 watts) it helps eliminate hotspots especially between the wick and the center positive post
B: prep the wick
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SsG199UrJnU
C: drillbit method
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4hP5zzpA2RU
Check your resistance before firing, done...really it IS that easy
Enjoy the vape...genesis RBS's have some of the BEST flavor
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/blogs/warhawk-avg/5633-geneis-style-rbas.html
A: prep the wire
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=doFbHya4lew
I twist 32ga wire together, 6-7wraps for 1.8ohm coils (I use a kick or APV's at 8 watts) it helps eliminate hotspots especially between the wick and the center positive post
B: prep the wick
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SsG199UrJnU
C: drillbit method
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4hP5zzpA2RU
Check your resistance before firing, done...really it IS that easy
Enjoy the vape...genesis RBS's have some of the BEST flavor
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/blogs/warhawk-avg/5633-geneis-style-rbas.html
That wick prep method can work, but you risk a crumbly black wick.
It's easier to just lightly torch it, slightly heavier on the edges, roll it and you're done. Quenching and juice burns aren't needed. Some say they get better wicking with a juice burn, but I don't bother.
It's easier to just lightly torch it, slightly heavier on the edges, roll it and you're done. Quenching and juice burns aren't needed. Some say they get better wicking with a juice burn, but I don't bother.
Try a ceramic wick. Fragile, but great. If you are careful, one can last you damn near forever.
one of the best ways to do it - this lady has it to the point it took a whole 6 minutes to make the video and thats with pauses to explain things. it can be a pain but I have even pulled this off on a provari.
there is no reason it should take days to set up a geni anymore.
Great find, Trasher. An all-business video on pulsing without all the nonsense
I do give my wicks a juice burn, but I don't torch them. I see it as a cleansing in fire sort of thing. I also wrap my wicks on the atty. I tend to mess up the wire tension otherwise. Not at all saying my way is better. It's just better for me. Point is: There are lots of ways of doing this. If one method don't work for someone, there may be other methods that suits them more.
I do think the all-out wick scorching is a thing of the past, tho. It's really not needed, and may just clog up your wick with carbon buildup (or something?) all the way through.
I do give my wicks a juice burn, but I don't torch them. I see it as a cleansing in fire sort of thing. I also wrap my wicks on the atty. I tend to mess up the wire tension otherwise. Not at all saying my way is better. It's just better for me. Point is: There are lots of ways of doing this. If one method don't work for someone, there may be other methods that suits them more.
I do think the all-out wick scorching is a thing of the past, tho. It's really not needed, and may just clog up your wick with carbon buildup (or something?) all the way through.
Lots pf great advice and links here! Just wanted to add what works for me.
Torch wick and wire once to just red hot.
Wrap wire on a drill bit in the wick hole and screw it down. Thicker wire is easier to work with than thinner.
Roll a wick with a small hole in the center (will require slight tilt to wick well), sized to slide into the coil snug but easily. This is the Petar K method.
Pulse out shorts. When finished, move the coils again and pulse out if there are more shorts. Do not put juice in until shorts have been obliterated.
Enjoy.
Torch wick and wire once to just red hot.
Wrap wire on a drill bit in the wick hole and screw it down. Thicker wire is easier to work with than thinner.
Roll a wick with a small hole in the center (will require slight tilt to wick well), sized to slide into the coil snug but easily. This is the Petar K method.
Pulse out shorts. When finished, move the coils again and pulse out if there are more shorts. Do not put juice in until shorts have been obliterated.
Enjoy.
I believe over heating SS can cause 'nasty stuff' to form on the surface. That's one reason I'm careful not to heat it up too much, too often.
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