Once you Sub you can't stop

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Oberon75

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Popular belief is once one quits smoking they are free from nicotine addiction, which is where vaping addiction kicks in. Like many other substances, one needs more and more over time. cigalike-eGo-glassomizer-subohm...
Who believes they are free from nicotine addiction? Vaping will lower the dependency however. No former smoker believes that or else they wouldn't need vaping to quit. I quit cold turkey once for seven months and there wasn't a day that passed where I didn't crave nicotine.

I will say this though which you will disagree with despite the scientific evidence. Never smokers who use nicotine outside of tobacco do not experience nicotine withdrawal.

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I would never go to subohm build. I am happy using tanks with rebuilded protank coils. I do have RBA and RDA, I tried them and it was too obvious I need to go though too much juice daily with them (even at 1.5 ohm). As I see from forum posts it is too easy to get dependance on high-volume vaping. I do not want it. I set a limit for myself - 4 ml a day and it allows me to chain vape using my current setup.

I make my own juice, its absolutely delicious (but I`m easy to please, LOL)
So I can vape like a sugar factory running at full tilt and spend less then 50 cents a day on juice.

This is the true beauty of vaping (the real thing that piss`s BT off). You can through ALLOT of money at it if that helps keep you off the smokes. OR, if cost was a major factor in deciding to vape, you can vape dirt cheap and enjoy you`r "addiction" at a cost that pretty much negates it as a addiction.

The true measure of a addiction is something that makes your life unmanageable. By this measure vaping is NOT an addiction, as it has made MY life much more manageable, and much more enjoyable, all at the same time. And it sure beats 3-4, $5 dollar cigars a day.
 

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Who believes they are free from nicotine addiction? Vaping will lower the dependency however. No former smoker believes that or else they wouldn't need vaping to quit. I quit cold turkey once for seven months and there wasn't a day that passed where I didn't crave nicotine.

I will say this though which you will disagree with despite the scientific evidence. Never smokers who use nicotine outside of tobacco do not experience nicotine withdrawal.

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Not a single study administered nicotine to never smokers through vaping...
 

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Popular belief is once one quits smoking they are free from nicotine addiction, which is where vaping addiction kicks in. Like many other substances, one needs more and more over time. Cigalike-eGo-glassomizer-subohm...

This is straight up malarkey. Not all of us used to smoke cigarettes. Some chose to smoke much stronger forms of tobacco. So it is only logical we may need a stronger vape in order to satisfy. Come on man, think outside your own comfortable box.
 
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Not a single study administered nicotine to never smokers through vaping...
And yet none of the other chemicals in the addictive cigarette cocktail is found in a vaping product nor can you show me a single never tobacco user experience nicotine withdrawal

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And yet none of the other chemicals in the addictive cigarette cocktail is found in a vaping product nor can you show me a single never tobacco user experience nicotine withdrawal

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This is why once one gets over the nicotine withdrawals after quitting smoking that are free from nicotine addiction...
 

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I'd say you craved smoking. If it were just about the nicotine, the patch or gum would have fixed it.
Even Sub-Ohming 12 to 18mg of nicotine. I still crave cigarettes daily to some extent because in a cigarette, nicotine is only one of the chemicals in the addictive cocktail. Vaping only takes the edge off.

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After I switched to my sub-tank, i tried my old aerotank mini i had and it just didn't do it for me anymore. For me there is no going back.

On the subject of nicotine withdrawels. What we crave, even me now is the feeling the cigarettes would give us. The chemical cocktail in them produces something vaping just can't. I am glad I am off it though. But the smell sometimes makes me want one. When that happens I pick up my vape. lol. I also occasionally have dreams about cigs. Usually in the dream I can't find my vape and I end up bumming a smoke. My aunt once dated a guy who smoked Winston's. Before he smoked them he smoked Marlboro. When he switched over he found they had less chemicals but because of the lack of chemicals he was hooked out, he ended up smoking more then he did before because they had him so hooked. I found the same thing that first month or so when I switched over to vaping. I was constantly vaping to counteract the withdrawels and was vaping on nic at times as high as 36mg. I am down to 12 mg now though. I haven't had a cig since september.
 

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One of the fundamental fallacies perpetrated by ANTZ is the equivalence of the words "smoking" and "nicotine" especially when it comes to "addiction" and "withdrawal symptoms".

Nearly all the studies that were done were on "smoking". The withdrawal symptoms presented in the literature as "nicotine withdrawal symptoms" are actually "smoking withdrawal symptoms".

There are scarcely few studies on what these symptoms would be just for nicotine, in the absence of smoking. (i.e. having non-smoking people use the patch for a sufficient long interval then remove the patch and note the symptoms). I know of only one study, and that one was not able to put in evidence any withdrawal symptoms.

So every time you see "nicotine addiction" and "nicotine withdrawal symptoms" - not "smoking" ones, I suggest you also think "scientifically incorrect" or, in plain language, BS.
 
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That act of vaping can be just as addictive...

That it is! I started vaping subohming on a Atlantis and am very satisfied with 12 nic. It was never my goal personally to quit Nicotine, however, I consider being off the stinkies an accomplishment in itself which very few non smokers will acknowledge, but alas, off topic.
 
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