One benefit the boge 510 cartos has vs the dual coils - Flooding Behaviour

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I'm not sure if one of the sub-categories would be better for this topic or not. I thought about putting it in tips and tricks, but it's more of a general knowledge sort of thing than it is a teaching someone something sort of thing.

Cartos, in general, don't respond well to flooding. The dual coils are particularly susceptible to the adverse effects of flooding compared to other cartos. Even at high voltages, the dual coils have a tough time recovering from a few too many drops of juice. They just can't produce vapor very well. I've come to the conclusion that it is the filler.

The regular Boge 510s overcome that sort of thing if they have the right voltage (fresh battery is usually enough) to get by the gurgling and still produce vapor even when they are somewhat flooded. It isn't an optimal vape, but it isn't nearly as bad as a flooded dual coil. So, you're better off wasting a little juice and blowing the excess out of a dual coil where you might be able to get away with just vaping a flooded boge until you've consumed the excess and not have to waste anything.

The design difference that causes this to be true is the filler. The dual coil filler has bigger pours and is a much looser material. It wicks very quickly. The boge filler is tightly woven and can be so tight that it is difficult to fill them when it's their first fillings. They wick a lot slower.

vaping a flooded dual coil results in a hot, harsh throat hit, but very little vapor. They make steam. As they begin to boil the juice around them, they continue to be fed by a very fast wicking filler, so they aren't able to get to a high enough temperature to vaporize rather than boil. The volume of juice getting to the coil is just too much when they're flooded. They can't overcome it.

vaping a flooded boge is much different. The wick is slower and doesn't have those really big pores the DC filler has so there isn't nearly as much juice available to the surface of the filler. The boge will start out boiling but doesn't get the same continuous fast juice feed that the DC gets, so it is able to consume what's close to it and reduce the juice density in the filler nearby and the filler strip that feeds the coil. That lets it form a little dryer pocket around the coil area that has smaller particles of juice ready to be vaporized.

A flooded boge does have a problem or two, however. I'm not recommending people flood their cartos. One of the things any flooded carto can and will do is spit hot juice in to your mouth. That alone is enough to not want to vape anything that's flooded. - The best thing to do is avoid flooding... but it happens to even the most experienced vapors occasionally. When you do flood, then it's the difference between still being able to produce a satisfactory vape or wasting some juice and having to wipe off a carto and maybe other stuff depending on your method of blowing out excess juice.

I use both kinds of carto every day. I like them both for different reasons and with different juices. In fact, I think I sort of prefer the dual coils because of their versatility being able to run well over a wide range of voltages is nice. But dealing with a flooded boge is easier and cleaner than dealing with a flooded dual coil. Plus, they have some benefits, too. Their consistency (disregarding a bad batch recently that I keep reading about but have not experienced myself) is unmatched. They produce top notch flavor for a carto. They're simple, small, and easy to use.

I'm glad I have and use both, and I don't think I'd ever give one up in favor of the other. But I'm starting to think the boge might be the better choice for new vapers to start with so they can get the lay of the land while using a quality, dependable carto that is fairly forgiving to mishaps like flooding.
 

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Good points you made. I would also like to add some information for folks who use cartomizer tanks. The dual coils, due to the heat they put off, will turn your juice to the consistency of water therefore causing the dreaded leaking that most tank users have encountered. If you have the taller 5ml tanks, I would recommend a resurrector from crystalclearvaping or a mega lr 510 from ikenvape over using the dual coils. For the 3ml tanks, either use an 801 Fusion (either resistance) with an adapter for 510 batts from Ikenvape or a Boge (any resistance).

I like the dual coil cartomizers but I also rotate PV's because of heat they put off. Rotating two PV's will allow the dcc's to cool some to avoid possible leaking. Out of Boge and dcc's, I prefer the Boge...I can chainvape them and they don't leak but the key to chainvaping them is to keep them wet at all times.
 

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Nail on the head, six. I'd also expand most of what you said to not just DC's, but to all SmokTechs. Also, I've found that repeated flooding can result in shorter carto life. As a carto continually becomes flooded, the draw tightens significantly due to juice becoming gunked up in the air hole. I clear this gunk out using a guitar string, but after I've done this once, I tend to only get another day or two of use before the carto becomes more trouble than it's worth.

I usually get about 2 weeks out of most Boge cartos, which tend to require their first cleaning about 1 1/2 weeks in. With the SmokTechs (DC's or traditional LR's), I only get 2-3 days before needing to ream them.
 

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I know you didn't mention Mega DCCs, but my experience has proven contrary to your findings. I use the Megas from Vaping Zone. One of the reasons I use them is precisely the reason you posted...they recover very quickly from flooding and last weeks easily on average.

I cannot stand Boges. I've given them more than a fair shake...even LR, VV and high voltage. I know the Mega DCCs are comparing apples and oranges to what you are speaking of, but just wanted to throw them out as an option for those that may not like Boges.
 

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    Good points you made. I would also like to add some information for folks who use cartomizer tanks. The dual coils, due to the heat they put off, will turn your juice to the consistency of water therefore causing the dreaded leaking that most tank users have encountered. If you have the taller 5ml tanks, I would recommend a resurrector from crystalclearvaping or a mega lr 510 from ikenvape over using the dual coils. For the 3ml tanks, either use an 801 Fusion (either resistance) with an adapter for 510 batts from Ikenvape or a Boge (any resistance).

    I like the dual coil cartomizers but I also rotate PV's because of heat they put off. Rotating two PV's will allow the dcc's to cool some to avoid possible leaking. Out of Boge and dcc's, I prefer the Boge...I can chainvape them and they don't leak but the key to chainvaping them is to keep them wet at all times.

    I've been trying to get those darn mega lr's from iken since i've started vaping, w/ no luck.:(
     
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