"One would think that vaping has to be safer than smoking real cigarettes. Experts say they are probably safer, but safer doesn't mean safe"
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It's come to the point I've had to stop reading these so-called news stories about vaping. It's fairly obvious by now that health and safety is not the real issue. THAT'S the smoke and mirrors. It's in the vested interest of certain parties to associate vaping with smoking as closely as possible. Smoking can be controlled for profit. It's all about the dollar bill.
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I don't listen to what the critics say. It still amazes me how much better I feel since I left camel joe and started vaping. The benefits to my own self I've seen firsthand are pretty awesome
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As a reminder: http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...g-links-junk-science-other-rubbish-posts.html
As a reminder: http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...g-links-junk-science-other-rubbish-posts.html
please break the link. We are a sizeable community here and our clicks can have a noticeable impact on search engine results. Don't give them any help spreading their hate
More garbage from the establishment. What do you expect of people whose livelihood depends on their malicious ignorance?
Guambred, what that mod in your pic? I never give these articles a read. Did once, got tired of the lies. We may not know the long term effect of inhaling PG/VG vapors in the type of application, but it has been so for generations in other applications. Never once have I heard of health risks.
"Safer doesn't mean safe." Can't argue with that statement! 
Why suddenly are ecigs supposed to be "safe," when so many things we do and consume every day wouldn't fit that criterion?
Chantix? Safer doesn't mean safe!
I agree with Saboteur, it's the messages being broadcast by the anti-ecig crowd that fit the "smoke and mirrors" description!!
Why suddenly are ecigs supposed to be "safe," when so many things we do and consume every day wouldn't fit that criterion?
Chantix? Safer doesn't mean safe!
I agree with Saboteur, it's the messages being broadcast by the anti-ecig crowd that fit the "smoke and mirrors" description!!
Munnin, the mod is a Dreadnaut by tactical works from the Philippines. 26650 hybrid. Yeah I dont think there is a product out there that is SAFE. Why can we not pick our battles for the SAFER products we want, and let evolution weed out the ones who cannot figure it out? Stupid question but begs to be answered.
Sad, just as I think I found the new mod I want to blow a chunk of money on, looks like getting a hold of one may be next to impossible 
"Safer doesn't mean safe." Can't argue with that statement!
Can't argue with this one either:
"Safer doesn't mean harmful."
The "safer but not safe" argument is just rhetoric. If that is going to be the validity test, no drugs would be approved by the FDA. Just pay attention to the Pharma commercials. The FDA says "safe and effective" but the best they can achieve is "Somewhat safer and to some degree effective" and they barely have met that standard with approved NRT.
Remember that every time you hear an ANTZ say "Ecigs haven't been proven safe," they're also admitting that "Ecigs haven't been proven harmful." We need to call them on that. Every. Single. Time.
Imo, the younger gen(younger than me NOT minors)has already answered this question with their wallets, habits,and beliefs .Vaping is not a bike ride or a good workout but it sure looks better than seeing smoking at a dinner table, that was acceptable big time in the 70's, and that was very dangerous to everyone involved.
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