Only thing stopping a REO from lasting a lifetime..

[rc10mike]

First off, I love my REOs. I started with a Mini, then went to a Grand....then a 2nd Gen Grand followed by 2 VVGs. I have a nice family I plan to keep forever.

Now, Im not here to bash at all, but after a few years of ownership, Im just going to share my thoughts on the one single weakness in the REO that I have personally had issues with, and what I think could make the Reo even better than it already is.

Its the feeder tube / 510 connection gasket.

When I got my first Reo, I cranked down on the cartomizer until it was nice and solid. After some research I was advised NOT to tighten the cartomizer that much because it can compress the gasket. My first thought was, "I dont want a wobbly cartomizer, I want it nice and tight" This right away made me be extra careful with how much I tighten things into the 510 connection. I was kind of disappointed, because the Reo felt so robust otherwise..

Then, one day I decide to swap juices in my Mini from a fruit flavor to a tobacco flavor. For some reason, I could not completely eliminate the fruity flavor from the mod. I changed everything, except the gaskets that protect the feeder tube within the 510 connection. Eventually, I boiled the mod too long and had to send the mod into Rob for repairs. My conclusion was the 510 gasket was the culprit in the flavor contamination, since everything else was eliminated.

Third, I had a feeder tube snap in half for no apparent reason. It broke where the firing pin plate and tube screw together. This was taken care of by Rob.

So, all this being said I really believe the 510 gasket/feeder tube could use some help. Perhaps using a more robust gasket material, that lets you tighten down atties but doesnt hold on to juice flavors.

 

[Filthy-Beast]

A thicker o ring under the RBA lets you get a snug fit without damaging the gasket, I use the 1.5x10 mm o rings. A soft gasket will seal better around the center pin than a hard one.

 

[rc10mike]

A thicker o ring under the RBA lets you get a snug fit without damaging the gasket, I use the 1.5x10 mm o rings. A soft gasket will seal better around the center pin than a hard one.

Ive been using a combination of thin stainless steel washers to take up any extra play for the last few years, just to avoid over-tightening. I also use an o-ring on RBAs.

Im not really referring to a better seal so to speak. Im just talking about having a nice snug fit.

For example, I can take a regular cart, thread it onto the Reo until it makes contact, but its not really tight and feels loose. The washers Ive been using allow me to fully tighten the cartomizer without crushing the 510 gasket.

 

[Justice]

Ive been using Reos since early 2011 and only ever had one tube split and it was the old thin wall tubes that Rob no longer uses as far as the gasket never have I had one go from putting my atty on I even had one reo with stripped out 510 threads from a few ugly falls If your having gasket failure your cranking down way too hard on the atty

 

[SLIPPY_EEL]

Is cranking down hard with your hand the same as cranking down hard with a screwdriver between the posts??

I use the medium size 0-ring

I screw my rm2 on to where abouts I like it then test v-drop and if i'm not getting what I expect I normally have to squeeze it on a little tighter, which is as hard as humanly possible with hand grip or thumb twisting pressure on the side of both posts


I think i'd rather crank it down for better v-drop, besides once its on and left on you aren't really causing a problem, the only problem would be from cleaning if you pull the firing pin out on its pivot point(the 510 tube) which will split the rubber flange from the tube


but don't do as I do

 

[BlueSnake]

First off, I love my REOs. I started with a Mini, then went to a Grand....then a 2nd Gen Grand followed by 2 VVGs. I have a nice family I plan to keep forever.

Now, Im not here to bash at all, but after a few years of ownership, Im just going to share my thoughts on the one single weakness in the REO that I have personally had issues with, and what I think could make the Reo even better than it already is.

Its the feeder tube / 510 connection gasket.

When I got my first Reo, I cranked down on the cartomizer until it was nice and solid. After some research I was advised NOT to tighten the cartomizer that much because it can compress the gasket. My first thought was, "I dont want a wobbly cartomizer, I want it nice and tight" This right away made me be extra careful with how much I tighten things into the 510 connection. I was kind of disappointed, because the Reo felt so robust otherwise..

Then, one day I decide to swap juices in my Mini from a fruit flavor to a tobacco flavor. For some reason, I could not completely eliminate the fruity flavor from the mod. I changed everything, except the gaskets that protect the feeder tube within the 510 connection. Eventually, I boiled the mod too long and had to send the mod into Rob for repairs. My conclusion was the 510 gasket was the culprit in the flavor contamination, since everything else was eliminated.

Third, I had a feeder tube snap in half for no apparent reason. It broke where the firing pin plate and tube screw together. This was taken care of by Rob.

So, all this being said I really believe the 510 gasket/feeder tube could use some help. Perhaps using a more robust gasket material, that lets you tighten down atties but doesnt hold on to juice flavors.

There is absolutely no mod that you are supposed to crank anything down on the 510 connection. That is the quickest way known to vapors to destroy a mod and one of the first things I learned when I started vaping.

 

[SLIPPY_EEL]

if you start adding extra gaskets or make your own gasket just be careful you don't go to mad on the thickness, you will have problems with your rubber squonk tube falling off the nipple cus you are raising the metal squonk tube up into the 510 connector, shortening it at the nipple end

 

[Raynman]

Nothing will last forever without proper maintenance. Your problems can be solved with a rebuild kit. No real need to send it in unless you're unable to do these things yourself. Even if you have a (insert favorite Automobile here) you will have to change oil, coolant, tires, spark plugs, battery, among other things or it won't last very long. Just think of the things you mentioned as a tune up.

 

[redeyedancer]

This is something I have given allot of thought .
The first mods I made has a solid adjustable 510 connection . This was great for some people but what would happen is people would wreck there atomizer wrenching them on there mods .

I have been testing a solid gasket I made out of Teflon this works great but the down fall to this is your atomizer hole ends up were it ends up . I would have customers tossing them selves in the dirt if I did this .

I can make a mod with a adjustable solid connection and this is great for guys with mechanical ability but some people will wreck there cartomizers or there atomizers with this set up . It always seems easy to a outsider but when you make products for the masses what seems easy can turn into a nightmare real quick .

I agree there is a better way I haven't found it yet but I am always thinking about it . I need to talk to someone at a gasket company I agree there has to be a better material then the silicone gasket .

No matter what you make there is always someone that can break it

 

[redeyedancer]

I will be upgrading the center post in the mods one thing at a time

 

[oplholik]

I like your statement "No matter what you make there is always someone that can break it". I can be one of those.

 

[SLIPPY_EEL]

the design Rob or the material?

I will be upgrading the center post in the mods one thing at a time

 

[Raynman]

I always say; It's impossible to make anything idiot proof because idiots are so ingenious.

 

[MamaTried]

I always say; It's impossible to make anything idiot proof because idiots are so ingenious.

thank you, sir.

i've never been called ingenious before. i'm blushing...

 

[freedogg]

Rob all my REO's are working exceptionally well.

I think you should just get some more chunks of fancy wood and fire up that new CNC machine!!!!

 

[B2L]

Rob all my REO's are working exceptionally well.

I think you should just get some more chunks of fancy wood and fire up that new CNC machine!!!!

I'll second the motion

 

[element77]

I think you should wait a couple years for new woodvils, like last time. The suspense is most of the fun



Just kidding everybody hehehehehe

 

[vapnmuse]

dare I say..........................stabilized woodvil run

 

[B2L]

I think you should wait a couple years for new woodvils, like last time. The suspense is most of the fun



Just kidding everybody hehehehehe

Noooooooooo

dare I say..........................stabilized woodvil run

Oh, please dare say it!

 

[Mudflap]

It's silly that the 510 connection became the industry standard for mods and rebuildable atomizers. It made sense for cigalikes, and even for the big battery mods that followed before rebuildables made the scene. It's time for a beefier connection to replace the 510.

Now, we just need all of the modders and China to get together to coordinate on what that will be.