Options seem endless, please help!!

[WCoyote]

Hi there experts I'm new to this forum and desperate for some advice because of the vast array of options.

I started vaping several months ago and have finally managed to stop augmenting with analogues. My first was a simple cartomizer starter kit which didn't work very well, but I liked the idea of it. I did some research and found something that seemed good in the Joye Ego-T with the manual battery button, cone design and tank. The problem is that the Ego-T is kind of unreliable.

I've figured out that I think my major problem seems to be with the atomizer itself. After some reading, I think the coil gets gunked up or breaks from use which results in me trying to take a bigger draw and the device leaking. I like the ease of the Ego-T and I'd like to put together something similar. So I'm here asking advice on putting together a device, either from one company or pulling pieces from different devices to make something I like.

So here's what I'd like to put together:

1. A tank system (I like to be able to refill with different flavors of juice)
2. A separate atomizer type device where the cone slips over the atomizer (is this even an option) so I can just replace the atomizer when it goes bad instead of replacing the enclosed atomizer. Also so I can look at it and determine when it's time to replace it (this is my biggest problem so far as I can tell).
3. A manual enabled (button press) battery which may even be adjustable voltage.

I'm willing to spend what money I need to put something like this together, in my opinion reliability, durability, and efficiency is more important than cost savings.

 

[Mattdogg]

Forget the tank systems, sounds like you're looking for a 306 atomizer+ego battery. (306's fit 510 connections) if you don't mind direct dripping, which ain't a bad thing at all.

 

[Bb177]

Have you looked at using a tank system with a regular ego/kgo battery? I personally have only used a J-tank, but from what I read most tank systems that will fit regular 510 battery's are more reliable than the ego-t. Again I never owned an ego-t this is just what I have gathered from reviews/posts. Also you could check out the ego-c supposed to be a step up from the t? Welcome to the sight someone with more tank knowledge will be along shortly, but thats a few things to google until the next person comes along.

 

[ctourtelot]

I believe the Ego-C set up works like the Ego-T except that the parts of the atomizer cone come apart so you can just change out the atomizer itself and reassemble the cone. I haven't used either, but based on what you are looking for, I'd say that would be the way to go if you like tank style.

 

[Mattdogg]

Right, ego tanks, bad. Tube/cartomizer tanks.. good.

What about his number 2? Doesn't that fit the description of a 306?

 

[Bb177]

I believe the Ego-C set up works like the Ego-T except that the parts of the atomizer cone come apart so you can just change out the atomizer itself and reassemble the cone. I haven't used either, but based on what you are looking for, I'd say that would be the way to go if you like tank style.

Yeah from what I have seen the c is just a better made t with a pretty cool 2piece atty set up. I did read somewhere they did resolve the leaking problems the t had, but I still see posts/reviews claiming leaking is still an issue. Mattdog recommended dripping, but I only drip at home, so I see where someone wouldn't want to drip all day especially at work. Like I said my impression is a tank on top of a kgo/ego is better than the ego-t or c. I believe mattdog agreed also. I like my J tank, but I'd rather use my smok tech mega dual coils. Looks better on my kgo than a tank IMO fits close to he same amount of juice, and frankly with all the running around I do all day tanks scare the .... out of me in my pocket.

 

[WCoyote]

@ Bb177

You're going to have to dumb it down for me some. Kind of like you're talking to a 5 year-old. I'm still really new at this in my opinion.

Unfortunately, dripping isn't an option for me as I work with education through the IT field. Which is why I prefer a tank. The Ego was a good solution because I could stand it on end (usually in my pen holder) and nobody knew the difference when they came in.

@ ctourtelot

I'll see what I can dig up on the Ego-C

Thanks everyone for the responses so far.

 

[Bb177]

This is a tank system that will fit on your current ego. The review is a bit crazy, but good none the less. There are other tank systems out there, this is just the one I have and would recommend.

J-TANK

 

[Dandafixr]

GotVapes VISION Stone II 5ml Tank 2.1-2.3ohms - BLACK Drip Tip [gv-VISIONStoneII-5mlBLACK] - $11.95 : GotVapes.com, E-cigarette Supplies - Atomizers Cartomizers Mods Juice and more

love this tank with my kgo good with the ego also

 

[Dandafixr]

GotVapes VISION eGo Stardust™ 1.6ml Top Coil Carto 2.2-2.5 ohm [gv-visionstardust-2.2] - $6.45 : GotVapes.com, E-cigarette Supplies - Atomizers Cartomizers Mods Juice and more

i have one of these coming in the mail today I'll let you know how it works

 

[Bb177]

GotVapes VISION eGo Stardust™ 1.6ml Top Coil Carto 2.2-2.5 ohm [gv-visionstardust-2.2] - $6.45 : GotVapes.com, E-cigarette Supplies - Atomizers Cartomizers Mods Juice and more

i have one of these coming in the mail today I'll let you know how it works

:Sigh: thank you for adding 2 more things to my already full list of purchases, dont you know that I have a problem!!!

 

[Huuwap]

The smok tech mega dual coils definitely have me intrigued and do look AWESOME on an ego/kgo battery. It's next on my purchase list. I bought a clear one last week that should perform the same and hold the same amount of juice but just isn't as sexy.

 

[Bb177]

The smok tech mega dual coils definitely have me intrigued and do look AWESOME on an ego/kgo battery. It's next on my purchase list. I bought a clear one last week that should perform the same and hold the same amount of juice but just isn't as sexy.

Defiantly not as sexy as all black kgo with the huge all black mega's. Also I don't remember where but someone said the clears don't hold as much as the black, no IDE why, but I get close to 4.5 ml in mine, more than I need in a day.

 

[Stef64]

Here is my suggestions for you:

1) I assume that you change juices often so you are not looking at tank+carto options. There are several tank type cartos I would recommend:
- CE2 Clearomizers (Fluxomizers): They hold either .9 or 1.7 ml, have clear bodies so you can see the level of the juice, provide a decent amount of vapor and TH and the flavor is close to direct driping. They are relatively inexpensive(~$2.00 ea.), can be cleaned easily and can last for weeks. They are easy to fill but require a syringe or a bottle with a syringe needle. On the down side, they require some moding to get them to wick properly but once you've done it they work great. The regular eGo cone will not fit over them so you would have to get a cone with a larger opening.
- Vision Clearomizer: An improved CE2 type carto. They work more consistently than the CE2 and the only moding they may require is to pull up the top seal to inprove wicking. They come in sizes up to 3.5 ml. 2.5 ml work the best IMO.
- Startdust: this is a great carto. It will fit the eGo battery perfectly and you don't need a cone. It actually looks pretty good on the eGo. It vapes well, it can be cleaned and I highly recommend trying it.

3. If you want to stick to a single voltage eGo type battery I recommend the kGo. It provides more voltage than the eGo and this will provide a better vape. If you want VV you have a lot of choices so you will have to narrow down the things your looking for: price, quality, form factor, etc.

Good Luck...

 

[TheMadHatter]

A great starter VV would be the VZ VV Tube Mod 510 Kit from vapingzone.com.
VZ VV Tube Mod 510 Kit 3 to 6 Volt | Lava Tube Ecig Mod - E Cig : Joye eGo & eGo-T | Boge Leo | Cartomizers | E-Liquid | Electronic Cigarettes | eGo Tank
I have looked a long time and found this one to be the best price for the starter kit. ($69.99)

Good Luck...

 

[Stef64]

A great starter VV would be the VZ VV Tube Mod 510 Kit from vapingzone.com.
VZ VV Tube Mod 510 Kit 3 to 6 Volt | Lava Tube Ecig Mod - E Cig : Joye eGo & eGo-T | Boge Leo | Cartomizers | E-Liquid | Electronic Cigarettes | eGo Tank
I have looked a long time and found this one to be the best price for the starter kit. ($69.99)

Good Luck...

That is one of the best prices I've seen for an LT but check out the warranty:

Warranty and Replacement info:
10 day replacement, beginning from shipping date, on defective parts or DOA. No Refunds. Physical damage is not covered by the return policy.

Other vendors offer up to a year warranty on these but they also cost more.

 

[WCoyote]

Thanks for all the great information everyone, you've definitely given me a direction to head in and some things to look for.

I think I'm going to pick up and try the eGo-C and see how that works at least until I can get my hands on a J-Tank. That design just seems absolutely awesome and it seems I can use my eGo batteries with it. Too bad that everything seems to be sold out right now at electronicstix. Of course everything being sold out kind of lets me know they've got a good, reliable product.

After looking at the VV VZ, I think I'm going to hold off on getting something like that at least for now. Hopefully they'll change the design slightly so the J-Tank will work well with it without having to adjust the set of the cartomizer.

Of course after all the advice, this brings up another question. I'm assuming that the cartomizers will have to be replaced eventually like the atomizers seem to need. About how long should they last before needing replacement, and how can you tell if it needs to be replaced?

The only cartomizers I'm really familiar with are the sealed units on e-cigarettes, so I'm not sure how they work.

 

[Huuwap]

Not sure exactly what you're talking about as sealed units, as the only cartomizers I've ever received say with a normal KR808 kit are pretty much the same as what you get when you buy blanks.

Pretty much it's filler material and atomizer in the same package. They're made to be disposable, which makes them a bit more expensive than an atomizer and a cartridge, but since they're higher capacity than a normal cart, you get more vaping time out of them before they need to be filled. If you keep the filler material wet, you can use them until the atty craps out or gets clogged, at which point you cut your losses and throw ~$1.50 worth of equipment away and start a new one. Of course costs change depending on what equipment you're looking at, but cartos are designed to be "one time use" type devices, and if you're buying prefilled cartos and not refilling, you're paying a pretty penny for them. You can probably get a week or two out of a carto you're keeping wet and primarily using...or longer...just depends on how much it's used.

 

[_vSTc3]

I like these alot NEW GotVapes VISION EXTREME GIANT 3.5ml 510 Carto 2.5-2.7oh 1 Pc [gv-visionEXTREMEGIANT-3.5-2.5NEW] - $8.95 : GotVapes.com, E-cigarette Supplies - Atomizers Cartomizers Mods Juice and more

 

[WCoyote]

Not sure exactly what you're talking about as sealed units, as the only cartomizers I've ever received say with a normal KR808 kit are pretty much the same as what you get when you buy blanks.

Pretty much it's filler material and atomizer in the same package. They're made to be disposable, which makes them a bit more expensive than an atomizer and a cartridge, but since they're higher capacity than a normal cart, you get more vaping time out of them before they need to be filled. If you keep the filler material wet, you can use them until the atty craps out or gets clogged, at which point you cut your losses and throw ~$1.50 worth of equipment away and start a new one. Of course costs change depending on what equipment you're looking at, but cartos are designed to be "one time use" type devices, and if you're buying prefilled cartos and not refilling, you're paying a pretty penny for them. You can probably get a week or two out of a carto you're keeping wet and primarily using...or longer...just depends on how much it's used.

I was referencing the ones you can now find in most gas stations where they have a slender battery with a screw on replaceable cartomizer (or that's what I believe it is). Basically looks almost exactly like an analogue cigarette. I'm using them now until I get everything straight in my head.