Ordering More Nicotine for Long Term Storage

[tony46113]

So I'm going to order another five 120ml bottles of 100mg Nude Armor V3 for long term storage. I know it's cheaper to buy a larger bottle, but I don't want to break the seal they use to split it up into smaller bottles for storage.

Thoughts on 100% PG? The last batch I bought was 50/50. Does it matter in terms of lifespan whether I go with 50/50 or 100% PG?

 

[mhertz]

No, get whatever you like... Our resident chemist here, Kurt, theorizes that VG-nic possibly will last longer than PG-nic, because of it's thicker viscosity and so lower molecular movement, but several have had PG-nic for 5-6 years and no issue whatsoever, so it shouldn't really be an issue and just go after preference. VG-nic are thicker so little more anoying to work with through syringes though... My personal preference would be either PG or VG, as I don't see the point in mixed ratios for high-mg nic, but that's just me though...

 

[sofarsogood]

I divided my first liter into 250 ml bottles and emptied the first one recently. Call that the active bottle. I probably opened it 25 times. The last of it was exactly the same color as in the beginning. When it's time to split the next bottle, in about 3 years, I'm expecting no color change. I think 10 years in the freezer is going to be fine and probably longer.

A tip. When you take the active bottle out of the freezer for mixing be sure to loosen the cap immediately while it warms to room temperature. I failed to do that with a mostly empty nic bottle and when I finally loosened the cap there was quite a rush of air. I wondered if that warming expanding air could create enough pressure to break the bottle.

 

[Two_Bears]

So I'm going to order another five 120ml bottles of 100mg Nude Armor V3 for long term storage. I know it's cheaper to buy a larger bottle, but I don't want to break the seal they use to split it up into smaller bottles for storage.

Thoughts on 100% PG? The last batch I bought was 50/50. Does it matter in terms of lifespan whether I go with 50/50 or 100% PG?

Pg would be better.

Before going nicotine free i got it in liters of 100 mg/ml and broke it up in 8 120 ml bottles and stashed it in the freezer

 

[mhertz]

I respectfully disagree; why is PG-nic specifically better? It isn't better, but a personal preference and if anything VG-nic, or VG/PG blend, is theorized to be better than PG-nic, well actually not just theorized, as the slowed molecular movement isn't a theory but fact... Personally, I would prefer either VG or PG, based on preference, but not because PG-nic is better...

 

[Two_Bears]

Its a known fact that PG is a better flavor Carrier.

PC doent get as thick as VG in the freezer.

Many people get the nic in PG a d flavors in PG so they don't have to buy much if any PG for their DIY Ejuice.

 

[johnm1971]

I am beginning to think about stockpiling some nic myself. Any recommendations for a reputable online dealer of nic and vg/pg?

 

[Two_Bears]

I am beginning to think about stockpiling some nic myself. Any recommendations for a reputable online dealer of nic and vg/pg?

Nude, my freedom smokes are good.

Wizard labs some like. Some don't
Are three sources.

Would recommend it in PG.

 

[johnm1971]

Nude, my freedom smokes are good.

Wizard labs some like. Some don't
Are three sources.

Would recommend it in PG.

Thanks! I'll check them out!

 

[mhertz]

Its a known fact that PG is a better flavor Carrier.

PC doent get as thick as VG in the freezer.

Many people get the nic in PG a d flavors in PG so they don't have to buy much if any PG for their DIY Ejuice.

Huh? Flavor-carrying properties is irrelevant in this specific circumstance... The very fact that VG gets so thick in freezer, is it's pro for long term storage(slowed molecular movement equals slowed oxidation). Yes, getting nic and flavors in PG, so not needing to buy/use VG is definetely a pro, agreed Using syringes with thick VG is also not as comfortable as with pg, we of course can agree on too

 

[bsidb]

My Freedom Smokes 500ml size bottles come in glass wrapped in bubble wrap ready for the freezer FYI

 

[IDJoel]

I am beginning to think about stockpiling some nic myself. Any recommendations for a reputable online dealer of nic and vg/pg?

There are several good threads already discussing nicotine & vendors. I am/have watched these:
Nicotine Comparisons
The above link is to the most current page (now 197!) but you can go back as far as you like (though I had it suggested to me not to bother going back more than 4 to 6 months reasoning many vendors may have changes to their products and reviews that were relevant at the time are no longer applicable). You can also do searches limited to the thread concerning any vendors and/or manufactures you may be curious about. It is an active thread and you can certainly post your specific questions there as well.
Nicotine co-op survey results
This link is from a closed thread that was hosted by @mikepetro last month when he wanted to see if getting a group order together could get a better bulk discount. Ultimately it didn't help, and the co-op buy didn't happen, but it does provide a short list of trusted vendors.
The link above is nice because each vendor/mfg. is linked directly to their home web-site. It is certainly NOT an all-inclusive list but it is a descent starting point.
The closed thread can be found here. Though you can't add to the discussion; you can find some useful info from the existing discussion and it ir pretty recent to boot (the thread was only started May 26, 2016)

 

[tony46113]

I am beginning to think about stockpiling some nic myself. Any recommendations for a reputable online dealer of nic and vg/pg?

I've never purchased nicotine anywhere other than Nude Nicotine. PG and VG I get from Amazon ... Essentials Depot.

 

[johnm1971]

There are several good threads already discussing nicotine & vendors. I am/have watched these:
Nicotine Comparisons
The above link is to the most current page (now 197!) but you can go back as far as you like (though I had it suggested to me not to bother going back more than 4 to 6 months reasoning many vendors may have changes to their products and reviews that were relevant at the time are no longer applicable). You can also do searches limited to the thread concerning any vendors and/or manufactures you may be curious about. It is an active thread and you can certainly post your specific questions there as well.
Nicotine co-op survey results
This link is from a closed thread that was hosted by @mikepetro last month when he wanted to see if getting a group order together could get a better bulk discount. Ultimately it didn't help, and the co-op buy didn't happen, but it does provide a short list of trusted vendors.
The link above is nice because each vendor/mfg. is linked directly to their home web-site. It is certainly NOT an all-inclusive list but it is a descent starting point.
The closed thread can be found here. Though you can't add to the discussion; you can find some useful info from the existing discussion and it ir pretty recent to boot (the thread was only started May 26, 2016)

Thanks for the info. That helps a lot!

 

[johnm1971]

I've never purchased nicotine anywhere other than Nude Nicotine. PG and VG I get from Amazon ... Essentials Depot.

Yeah, I've been to many websites and read some reviews, and Nude Nicotine is the one I"m leaning towards. I was NOT aware that you could get pg/vg on Amazon, though. Thanks for that info! That makes getting it a breeze!

 

[ckquatt]

If you have a Tractor Supply in your area you can get USP PG by the gallon for 25 bucks.


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[johnm1971]

If you have a Tractor Supply in your area you can get USP PG by the gallon for 25 bucks.


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Wow! I do and it's about 4 blocks from my house! What is it listed as, or what should I ask for? PG?

 

[Rickajho]

Its a known fact that PG is a better flavor Carrier.

PC doent get as thick as VG in the freezer.

Many people get the nic in PG a d flavors in PG so they don't have to buy much if any PG for their DIY Ejuice.

And that's all great - unless you have adverse reaction or allergy to PG.

 

[ckquatt]

Wow! I do and it's about 4 blocks from my house! What is it listed as, or what should I ask for? PG?

It's in the section with the "medical" treatment stuff. Here's the listing on their site.

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[Two_Bears]

And that's all great - unless you have adverse reaction or allergy to PG.

Some people have problems with PG. But if your flavors and nicotine are 100% PG adding VG to your flavor and nic will give you 60-90% VG ratio.