Organic E-Juice?
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Try Virgin Vapor | Electronic Cigarette Organic e-Liquid | Electronic Cigarettes be sure to ask them to make it thick for dripping. They use a lot of distilled water otherwise. Sample packs are probably best to start as some people seem to hate their juice. The samples are not adjustable though, unless they have recently changed that. Every juice I have tried from them gets better with age. Blueberry bliss is so far the best juice I have had from anyone. The coffee flavors taste like chemicals at first, but, after a couple months they taste just like the sweet stuff most people call coffee. There are several other companies with organic lines also. Good Luck!
Legally organic eliquid doesn't exist, though there are vendors that use organic ingredients to flavor their lines.
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You sure about that? Organic tobacco and organic palm glycerin are all you need to make organic eliquid. use organic pga to speed the process if you like. All are available on the internet. Guilty Pleasures even has kosher organic nicotine.
Making e-liquid out of all organic ingredients, & being able to slap that certified organic label on the e-liquid bottle, are 2 very different things..
The latter is an expensive, time-consuming PITA...
That said, one could easily argue that it's "close enough for me" without that label...
This quote from the guy who makes Open Source Vapor might help answer your question. if you want organic you could try: virgin vapor, vaperite, orb vapor, dripeez, open source vapor, guilty pleasures organics
Dripeez makes very natural tasting fruits-needs to steep a while
"Certified organic VG does exist. It can be made from any carbon-based matter, and is commonly made from soy or palm. I don't know of any vendors using Monsanto corn-based glycerin. ASAIF they all use palm-based VG. Personally, I look forward to pharmaceutical grade industrial hemp based VG. That said, pharma-grade USP VG that is certified organic can be ordered through these guys, although I believe they only sell in wholesale quantity.
https://www.naturalsourcing.com/medi...egglycerin.asp
That said, I don't need my VG to be certified organic as long as it's pure and fresh. As far as I know, Virgin Vapor is the only vendor to use certified organic VG, and their nic base is almost certainly not organic as I don't believe that is available.
What makes an eliquid organic is the use of certified organic flavors / sweeteners and the absence of artificial flavors, colors, etc. Also no PG. PG cannot be organic as it has no natural source.
I mix eliquid using flavors from Medicine Flower (expensive, but super potent and IMO the best flavors.) I never mix PG into anything and the flavors are pure flavors - not in an alcohol base, no base at all. They use CO2 extraction and alcohol extraction, then use a rotary evaporator to remove all of the alcohol without applying so much heat as to damage the flavor.
And that's the point. The primary advantage is flavor. Real vanilla has over 200 individual flavor notes. Vanillin has one. I don't know how many notes TFA Vanilla has, but I would be willing to bet it's not frickin 200. Organic flavors taste better. Much better."
Dripeez makes very natural tasting fruits-needs to steep a while
"Certified organic VG does exist. It can be made from any carbon-based matter, and is commonly made from soy or palm. I don't know of any vendors using Monsanto corn-based glycerin. ASAIF they all use palm-based VG. Personally, I look forward to pharmaceutical grade industrial hemp based VG. That said, pharma-grade USP VG that is certified organic can be ordered through these guys, although I believe they only sell in wholesale quantity.
https://www.naturalsourcing.com/medi...egglycerin.asp
That said, I don't need my VG to be certified organic as long as it's pure and fresh. As far as I know, Virgin Vapor is the only vendor to use certified organic VG, and their nic base is almost certainly not organic as I don't believe that is available.
What makes an eliquid organic is the use of certified organic flavors / sweeteners and the absence of artificial flavors, colors, etc. Also no PG. PG cannot be organic as it has no natural source.
I mix eliquid using flavors from Medicine Flower (expensive, but super potent and IMO the best flavors.) I never mix PG into anything and the flavors are pure flavors - not in an alcohol base, no base at all. They use CO2 extraction and alcohol extraction, then use a rotary evaporator to remove all of the alcohol without applying so much heat as to damage the flavor.
And that's the point. The primary advantage is flavor. Real vanilla has over 200 individual flavor notes. Vanillin has one. I don't know how many notes TFA Vanilla has, but I would be willing to bet it's not frickin 200. Organic flavors taste better. Much better."
Thanks for passing along the message, firephly!
A couple things about it...
From what I understand there are a number of nic extraction methods.. If one were to use one that would be technically considered organic, and also used organically-grown tobacco, wouldn't that suffice, even though it may not be officially "certified" organic?
Also, while it might not potentially be widely available for sale, some may be doing their own extractions for their own products...
What makes it organic, at least in the legal definition, anyway, is not only is it made from organic ingredients, but that the entity handling that product (e.g., the juice-maker) is officially certified, which includes all sorts of practices to be instituted & maintained, which can use up valuable resources (time, money, physical space, effort, etc.)...
I also question the PG thing.. There are a few levels of "organic," with only one of them requiring 100%...
Could a small amount of PG still fall under Level 2 or 3..?
"LEVEL 2:
Certified Organic: 95 99.9% of ingredients (not counting added water or salt) must be produced organically. May contain up to 5% of non-organically produced agricultural ingredients which are not commercially available in organic form, and/or other substances as allowed by law. Products labeled 95 99.9% Organic may use the USDA Organic seal.
LEVEL 3:
Made With Organic Ingredients: 70 94.9% of ingredients must be produced organically. May contain up to 30% of non-organically produced agricultural ingredients which are not commercially available in organic form, and/or other substances as allowed by law."
http://blog.nurturenatureproject.com/organic-resources/certification-symbols/
Maybe a little homework for myself, especially for what falls under "other substances as allowed by law"..
Anyway, I do agree that it does taste better!
A couple things about it...
From what I understand there are a number of nic extraction methods.. If one were to use one that would be technically considered organic, and also used organically-grown tobacco, wouldn't that suffice, even though it may not be officially "certified" organic?
Also, while it might not potentially be widely available for sale, some may be doing their own extractions for their own products...
What makes it organic, at least in the legal definition, anyway, is not only is it made from organic ingredients, but that the entity handling that product (e.g., the juice-maker) is officially certified, which includes all sorts of practices to be instituted & maintained, which can use up valuable resources (time, money, physical space, effort, etc.)...
I also question the PG thing.. There are a few levels of "organic," with only one of them requiring 100%...
Could a small amount of PG still fall under Level 2 or 3..?
"LEVEL 2:
Certified Organic: 95 99.9% of ingredients (not counting added water or salt) must be produced organically. May contain up to 5% of non-organically produced agricultural ingredients which are not commercially available in organic form, and/or other substances as allowed by law. Products labeled 95 99.9% Organic may use the USDA Organic seal.
LEVEL 3:
Made With Organic Ingredients: 70 94.9% of ingredients must be produced organically. May contain up to 30% of non-organically produced agricultural ingredients which are not commercially available in organic form, and/or other substances as allowed by law."
http://blog.nurturenatureproject.com/organic-resources/certification-symbols/
Maybe a little homework for myself, especially for what falls under "other substances as allowed by law"..
Anyway, I do agree that it does taste better!
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