organic extracts

[regal55]

There was a company that had a large selection of organic/natural extracts/flavorings, if I remember right they weren't necessarily specific to e-juice. Anyone have a link?

 

[rkitek]

You may be thinking of either Nature's Flavors or maybe Medicine Flower. NF's website is kind of a pain to search because of the myriad of offerings...I think you'll want "organic flavor extracts" from them and verify the product is diacetyl/diketone/sugar/acacia gum free.

Also, NF has a couple sister sites with what seems like the same products, although I think I remember seeing a couple different flavors. They are Newport Flavours and Seelect Tea.

 

[Leothwyn]

You can get some of the Nature's Flavors at ECX and High Desert Ecigs.

 

[RocketPuppy]

Rkitek is right on. Medicine Flower has great products.

 

[MotherNatural]

Rkitek is right on. Medicine Flower has great products.

I just mixed up some of their Golden Apple today. It smells like you just bit into a crisp, juicy, sweet, fresh from the orchard apple. Can't wait to try this one!

 

[patkin]

I've stayed away from "organic, natural" flavorings as for those I've seen, reading ingredients, it always seems they would kill an atty fast. Also, being allergy prone, the "real thing" could be dangerous for me.

 

[regal55]

I've stayed away from "organic, natural" flavorings as for those I've seen, reading ingredients, it always seems they would kill an atty fast. Also, being allergy prone, the "real thing" could be dangerous for me.

Yea flavors derived from petroleum are much safer, whever dude,


It was Newport that I was thinking of I remember now 'cause the had an organic high heat stable tangerine I wanted to try.

 

[Leothwyn]

I've stayed away from "organic, natural" flavorings as for those I've seen, reading ingredients, it always seems they would kill an atty fast. Also, being allergy prone, the "real thing" could be dangerous for me.

I don't know about the allergy thing, but I've never had any problems with Nature's Flavors being hard on coils.

 

[jcmccord235]

Yeah, organic flavors aren't harder on coils, and if you're allergic to almonds you are probably allergic to artificial almond.

 

[Stosh]

Yea flavors derived from petroleum are much safer, whever dude,....

Don't jump on the "organic, natural" flavorings bandwagon as being the ultimate answer too fast.

Beaver .... used as 'natural flavoring' in your food

 

[Traver]

Yea flavors derived from petroleum are much safer, whever dude,


It was Newport that I was thinking of I remember now 'cause the had an organic high heat stable tangerine I wanted to try.

Diacetyl from natural butter will ruin your lungs.

There no lack of either natural or synthetic chemicals that will kill you. Either way you have to know what is good for you and what isn't.

 

[jcmccord235]

Don't jump on the "organic, natural" flavorings bandwagon as being the ultimate answer too fast.

Beaver .... used as 'natural flavoring' in your food

Beaver .... is not going to be in certified organic flavors. And the bandwagon exists because the flavors are more accurate and more convincing.

Diacetyl from natural butter will ruin your lungs.

There no lack of either natural or synthetic chemicals that will kill you. Either way you have to know what is good for you and what isn't.

If you're the one vaping it, you should know. Still, while I don't doubt that naturally occurring diacetyl is bad for you, it is not lost on me that there are zero confirmed cases of popcorn lung as a result of it. No dairy farm or microbrewery related popcorn lung. So far, the only confirmed cases resulted from artificial butter flavors.

 

[Stosh]

Beaver .... is not going to be in certified organic flavors. And the bandwagon exists because the flavors are more accurate and more convincing.

Beaver .... is certified organic, natural. Beavers are organic, not manufactured. Simple labeling doesn't ever disclose the source, only that it's not manufactured.

Safety assessment of castoreum extract... [Int J Toxicol. 2007 Jan-Feb] - PubMed - NCBI

If you're the one vaping it, you should know. Still, while I don't doubt that naturally occurring diacetyl is bad for you, it is not lost on me that there are zero confirmed cases of popcorn lung as a result of it. No dairy farm or microbrewery related popcorn lung. So far, the only confirmed cases resulted from artificial butter flavors.

The poison is in the dosage, how much you inhale. For use in vaping a "safe" level is not known at this time, the idea it was a problem in popcorn or vaping is a fairly recent development.

 

[Traver]

Beaver .... is not going to be in certified organic flavors. And the bandwagon exists because the flavors are more accurate and more convincing.

Who are these flavors certified by?

 

[jcmccord235]

Nicotine is natural, pufferfish are natural, beaver .... is natural. Adding any to you food or vape void it from the possibility of being certified organic under US standards. People frequently transpose the different possible meanings of organic, but certified organic raspberry flavor cannot come from beaver ..... Natural raspberry flavor can.

 

[jcmccord235]

In the US, Oregon Tilth is who I usually see doing it. The number of rules is WAY in excess of what most folks would expect.

 

[Traver]

In the US, Oregon Tilth is who I usually see doing it. The number of rules is WAY in excess of what most folks would expect.

Thanks, jcmccord Ill try to find some time to see what they do.

 

[we2rcool]

... it is not lost on me that there are zero confirmed cases of popcorn lung as a result of it. No dairy farm or microbrewery related popcorn lung. So far, the only confirmed cases resulted from artificial butter flavors.

Because we agree and it definitely needs to be said again.

 

[Stosh]

Nicotine is natural, pufferfish are natural, beaver .... is natural. Adding any to you food or vape void it from the possibility of being certified organic under US standards. People frequently transpose the different possible meanings of organic, but certified organic raspberry flavor cannot come from beaver ..... Natural raspberry flavor can.

Not actually....

§205.105 Allowed and prohibited substances, methods, and ingredients in organic production and handling.

To be sold or labeled as “100 percent organic,” “organic,” or “made with organic (specified ingredients or food group(s)),” the product must be produced and handled without the use of:

(a) Synthetic substances and ingredients, except as provided in §205.601 or §205.603;

(b) Nonsynthetic substances prohibited in §205.602 or §205.604;

(c) Nonagricultural substances used in or on processed products, except as otherwise provided in §205.605;

(d) Nonorganic agricultural substances used in or on processed products, except as otherwise provided in §205.606;

(e) Excluded methods, except for vaccines: Provided, That, the vaccines are approved in accordance with §205.600(a);

(f) Ionizing radiation, as described in Food and Drug Administration regulation, 21 CFR 179.26; and

(g) Sewage sludge.

eCFR — Code of Federal Regulations