OSUB Plus kit and help if you have a few mins?

[Big Gres]

Hi folks,

so the forst of wha I hope to be only a few seriously basic questions..

I've been using the R40 Smok mod and Nautilus X tank sold a bout 3 weeks ago and whilst it was fine, I am not a mouth to lung smoker so was finding it difficult to get a decent hit from it and found myslef growing more antsy and nearly had a relapse back onto the dreaded cigs, but after some small advice from an online retailer took the plunge and bought the new OSUB plus kit in black.

Lovely mod and from what I can tell from my greener than green knowledge it's pretty solid.
the issue is though is that I cannot find a setting that will allow me to get some decent pulls without eliquid furring my tounge, constant crackle, and seriously hot vape on the 2nd draw.

I am using the stock 0.4Ohm dual coil that ships with it, have set it to 40W, nickel, and normal draw strength. juice is Ruthless 70/30 and device is pretty much full charge. Not sure at all how I can go about getting the mod to allow me normal pulls without it over heating etc.

Any advice would be a real help as I'm sure it's just something simple I'm getting wrong.
thanks

Gres

 

[Bonskibon]

Your running that coil in TC mode right? You DON'T want to run nickel in wattage mode.

 

[Big Gres]

Hi,

I'm in Watt mode - ok thanks for that something learned. Titanium?

 

[Bonskibon]

Hi,

I'm in Watt mode - ok thanks for that something learned. Titanium?

Always run nickel and titanium in TC mode. SS (if supported) can be run in TC or Wattage mode.

 

[Big Gres]

is there anything else I'm doing wrong? - i'm experimenting with my draws, etc and nothing seems to be working.

 

[Bonskibon]

is there anything else I'm doing wrong? - i'm experimenting with my draws, etc and nothing seems to be working.

I personally don't use TC mode, so I'm not sure. Hopefully someone else will come along to help you out.

 

[Big Gres]

I haven't been using TC mode either I find Watts easier to gauge how much stress the battery is under.

 

[Bonskibon]

I haven't been using TC mode either I find Watts easier to gauge how much stress the battery is under.

My understanding is using nickel in wattage mode is dangerous. Please vape safe.

 

[Bonskibon]

 

[Big Gres]

I see..How on earth would I have known this - surely the manufacturer would have disabled the function?
However my thanks for pointing this out- it's a learning curve for me..

any other advice would be really useful, as it seems I am missing a fair bit.

 

[Topwater Elvis]

As usual smok doesn't say what wire type is used in the V8baby - Q2 replaceable atomizer head. (the .4Ω it comes with in the osub plus kit is a v8baby-Q2 head)

I have no idea why anyone is assuming it is Ni or Ti / TC type wire material when smok doesn't even give that info on their own site.

70% PG is going to be kinda harsh subohm mid to high power.
It will take quite a bit of airflow to keep things cool with such a small delivery device when taking repetitive hits. There just isn't a lot of space between the coil & the end of the drip tip.
Did you properly prime the head before pressing the fire button for the first time?
The wicking material has to be thoroughly saturated before use to prevent scorching / burning.
What nic mg/ml are you using?

 

[Bonskibon]

I have no idea why anyone is assuming it is Ni or Ti / TC type wire material when smok doesn't even give that info on their own site.

I am not familiar with the device and just went with what the OP posted.

 

[gotch23]

As from what i could gather, there are no temperature control coils for the tfv8 baby. Not a 100% certain though.
But 0.4 dual coil... almost certain it isn't Nickel.
As Topwater Elvis pointed out, it's pretty annoying that SMOK doesn't specify their wire material.

So yeah... seems you'll have to get another tank to mess with TC.
It's far from the only starter kit, that is put together this way though. Lots of them have a tc-able
mod but don't come with tc-coils... pretty crappy if you ask me.

 

[Big Gres]

As usual smok doesn't say what wire type is used in the V8baby - Q2 replaceable atomizer head. (the .4Ω it comes with in the osub plus kit is a v8baby-Q2 head)

I have no idea why anyone is assuming it is Ni or Ti / TC type wire material when smok doesn't even give that info on their own site.

70% PG is going to be kinda harsh subohm mid to high power.
It will take quite a bit of airflow to keep things cool with such a small delivery device when taking repetitive hits. There just isn't a lot of space between the coil & the end of the drip tip.
What nic mg/ml are you using?

I see there is quite a large airflow gap which to my untrained seems very big for the size of tank and coil but i'll certainly bow down to the superior knowledge..
The nic content is 6MG and the bottle is or rather was a 15ML Ruthless. I saturated the wick material in liquid and used about 05ml liquid in the process.. perhaps I should start again and let the liquid sit in the tank for 30 minutes before vaping..

I have today just ordered a DIY kit and a small set of digi scales. The cost for a decent bottle of premium liquid is astronomical. Would you recommend a 50/50 split when I do go to mix my own?

 

[Big Gres]

Could I just ask you helpful posters to recap a little bit for me, I have now adjusted my mod to Titanium mode and sitting at 45W - is this about what I should be realsitically sitting at to ensure a reasonable vape?
all your replies are very much appreciated.

 

[gotch23]

When you are in wattage mode, it doesn't matter what wire the mod is set to.
But yes... try 45 watt... and go from there.

About diy... 50/50 sounds about right for a starting point. You can always experiment with more of one or the other.
Some people tolerate PG better, some VG, most don't have a problem with either.

 

[Topwater Elvis]

I would not use a temp control mode on the power device without knowing for sure the wire used in the head is compatible with a TC mode.
Ni wire in Ni mode only.
Ti wire in Ti mode only.
SS in either TC mode if SS is supported or watt mode.
Kanthal in watt mode only.
Considering the manufacturer doesn't state what wire material is used, I really don't have a good recommendation other than to contact them & ask what type wire is used. You'll have to ask a very specific question considering they have all sorts of models, sub models & versions.

I'd try watt mode, probably 50w and go up & down from there to find what works best
Properly priming the head before use is the most important initial set up step. The wicking material must be fully saturated before pressing the fire button for the very first time.
If you skipped this step there is a good chance the wicking material is scorched.
Also new heads need a little time to 'break in' (the first tank full or so) at a slightly lower power setting than normal to prevent scorching the wicking material.

Size of air gap doesn't mean much unless you pull enough air through it.
There will be a fairly loud whoosh mixed with sizzle crackle if you're pulling enough air through the delivery device.

I have no experience with ruthless liquids, is 70pg 30vg or 30pg 70vg?
Seems most folks like higher VG than Pg with subohm resistances, I use as close to 50/50 as I can get for everything.

 

[Big Gres]

When you are in wattage mode, it doesn't matter what wire the mod is set to.
But yes... try 45 watt... and go from there.

About diy... 50/50 sounds about right for a starting point. You can always experiment with more of one or the other.
Some people tolerate PG better, some VG, most don't have a problem with either.

Sorry gotch, wasn't this what I as told not to do by another poster regards to wattage mode and nickel?
In any case I'll play it safe and keep to Titanium on Normal strength.

I would not use a temp control mode on the power device without knowing for sure the wire used in the head is compatible with a TC mode.
Ni wire in Ni mode only.
Ti wire in Ti mode only.
SS in either TC mode if SS is supported or watt mode.
Kanthal in watt mode only.
Considering the manufacturer doesn't state what wire material is used, I really don't have a good recommendation other than to contact them & ask what type wire is used. You'll have to ask a very specific question considering they have all sorts of models, sub models & versions.

I'd try watt mode, probably 50w and go up & down from there to find what works best
Properly priming the head before use is the most important initial set up step. The wicking material must be fully saturated before pressing the fire button for the very first time.
If you skipped this step there is a good chance the wicking material is scorched.
Also new heads need a little time to 'break in' (the first tank full or so) at a slightly lower power setting than normal to prevent scorching the wicking material.

Size of air gap doesn't mean much unless you pull enough air through it.
There will be a fairly loud whoosh mixed with sizzle crackle if you're pulling enough air through the delivery device.

I have no experience with ruthless liquids, is 70pg 30vg or 30pg 70vg?
Seems most folks like higher VG than Pg with subohm resistances, I use as close to 50/50 as I can get for everything.

I am a little bit confiused, ref Temp Control Mode, so I should stay on Watt all the time, and make sure I'm set to titanium? I made sure I primed the wick as much as i thought was ok but I certainly do accept it might not have been enough.. the split is 70VG and 30PG which I admit is thick and perhaps not ideal for these coils; would that be what is causing it to crackle whilst i am vaping?

 

[gotch23]

Ok.. to clear things up:

Variable wattage mode does NOT use any wire presets.
Wire presets are STRICTLY for TC mode.
They do not apply to variable wattage mode.
So it really doesn't matter what the wire preset is on, when you are in VW mode.
And... with your coils you should strictly stay in VW mode.

Priming the wick not enough? Does it taste burnt? If not you did it right.

The coils take 70% VG and 30% PG no problem. Many people prefer this kind of composition for high-performance
atomizers like yours.

Some crackling is totally normal.

 

[Big Gres]

Hi gotch, and many thanks for clearing it all up. I think my problem was I was trying to vape whilst in nickel and that was causing the issue. Since changing to platinum in VW mode at 45 W vaping has been really smooth cool and it's as if I'm using a different machine.
I am really impressed with this unit now I've got it working properly.

Thanks to all that posted, it's been a lesson