OT: Every Canadian Should Read This ASAP

[AllYourBase]

Stop The Trap | OpenMedia International

Haven't been around in a while, (back on the analogs) but this is some pretty heavy stuff and I figured I'd share this with all my Canadian bros and bro-ettes on ECF. Soon your internet activity will be closely monitored. There's a petition on the site, it's probably the last chance we have on this matter.

Stop The Trap | OpenMedia International

From the site:

You could have to pay a big fine for simply clicking on the wrong link.[/I]

Right now, a group of 600 industry lobbyist "advisors" and un-elected government trade representatives are scheming behind closed doors^1,2 to craft an international agreement called the Trans-Pacific Partnership (TPP).[/I]
Why the secrecy? We know from leaked documents³ that the TPP includes what amounts to an Internet trap that would:[/I]

1. Criminalize⁴ some of your everyday use of the Internet,[/I]
2. Force service providers to collect and hand over your private datawithout privacy safeguards⁵, and[/I]
3. Give media conglomerates more power to fine you for Internet use,⁶remove online content—including entire websites—and eventerminate⁷ your access to the Internet.[/I]
4. The TPP would create a parallel legal system of international tribunals that will undermine national sovereignty and allow conglomerates to sue countries for laws that infringe on their profits.[/I]

The TPP's Internet trap is secretive, extreme, and it could criminalize your daily use of the Internet. You could be fined for simply clicking on the wrong link. We deserve to know what will be blocked, what we and our families will be fined for.[/I]
If enough of us speak out now, we can force participating governments to come clean. Your signature will send a message to each country's leaders.⁸ Please sign the petition and share it with everyone you know >>>[/I]

Hope all is well with everyone on the forums. "vape on" as they say. Peace.

 

[VAPOINSANO]

Sorry to hear about your Relapse AYB

Good Luck & Hopefully you can get back to ''The Great vape'' !

& Sad but True,
Yes ''Things'' will get Much worse before they get Better,imo...

Message sent = I will be Expecting Them = @$$Klownz

 

[Battlelance]

...puts on tinfoil hat...

 

[Toronto_Mike]

The US & Canada should regulate the content that flows through it's ISP's. The internet is a shared network and easily accessible to children. I don't want my kids subjected to the crap that they can easily stumble upon. Let's face it, the real winners are porn sites. Combined they probably earn more revenue than that of many of the big guys. If the CRTC can regulate the way of which porn travels through my cable provider - why the hell can't they regulate it through the internet. I'm no way in favor of a communistic approach but the internet has become somewhat of an uncontrollable beast. 3rd party software can help like Netnanny etc but their basically garbage. Instead of ISP's forcing Canadians to pay for tier bandwidth, they should be locking all adult content & charge those who choose to use those sites. Can you imagine the horror a parent faces knowing their dead son or daughter's murder was taped & uploaded to the internet? Absolutely disgusting!

Just a view perspective from a concerned parent.

 

[AllYourBase]

The US & Canada should regulate the content that flows through it's ISP's. The internet is a shared network and easily accessible to children. I don't want my kids subjected to the crap that they can easily stumble upon. Let's face it, the real winners are porn sites. Combined they probably earn more revenue than that of many of the big guys. If the CRTC can regulate the way of which porn travels through my cable provider - why the hell can't they regulate it through the internet. I'm no way in favor of a communistic approach but the internet has become somewhat of an uncontrollable beast. 3rd party software can help like Netnanny etc but their basically garbage. Instead of ISP's forcing Canadians to pay for tier bandwidth, they should be locking all adult content & charge those who choose to use those sites. Can you imagine the horror a parent faces knowing their dead son or daughter's murder was taped & uploaded to the internet? Absolutely disgusting!

Just a view perspective from a concerned parent.

Porn? Methinks you didn't look into what this is about at all. This bill won't reduce the amount of porn on the internet at all. Here's a link to a background on the subject.

http://openmedia.ca/blog/tpp-secretive-agreement-could-criminalize-your-internet-use

Oh, and thanks mods for moving this thread into a subforum completely unrelated to the subject matter where no Canadians will likely see it!

 

[martinc]

Yeah,this applies to downloaders of music and movies;the authors claimed intellectual property (with reason) ages ago.

Remember the Metallica drummer saga years ago? Same went with our locals.

I have no problems with the law per se as it is not right to be able to download stuff for free unless its purposely offered as such...which other means of countering this would you offer besides fines?

On the other hand,we all know that would open the doors for more tight control of our e-lives...keep voting for those douchebags.

 

[supervape]

Regulation of the internet is the END of free speech as we know it

 

[Song]

The US & Canada should regulate the content that flows through it's ISP's. The internet is a shared network and easily accessible to children. I don't want my kids subjected to the crap that they can easily stumble upon. Let's face it, the real winners are porn sites. Combined they probably earn more revenue than that of many of the big guys. If the CRTC can regulate the way of which porn travels through my cable provider - why the hell can't they regulate it through the internet. I'm no way in favor of a communistic approach but the internet has become somewhat of an uncontrollable beast. 3rd party software can help like Netnanny etc but their basically garbage. Instead of ISP's forcing Canadians to pay for tier bandwidth, they should be locking all adult content & charge those who choose to use those sites. Can you imagine the horror a parent faces knowing their dead son or daughter's murder was taped & uploaded to the internet? Absolutely disgusting!

Just a view perspective from a concerned parent.

I'll disagree with that, the last thing we need is more control on what we do, our society is based on freedoms that we take for granted, giving up our freedoms and letting the government control them for a little safety is not a good trade.

Benjamin Franklin : “People willing to trade their freedom for temporary security deserve neither and will lose both”

 

[Dauslyn]

I'll disagree with that, the last thing we need is more control on what we do, our society is based on freedoms that we take for granted, giving up our freedoms and letting the government control them for a little safety is not a good trade.

Benjamin Franklin : “People willing to trade their freedom for temporary security deserve neither and will lose both”

+10 internets to you good sir.

I can understand from a concerned parent's perspective, but I think it needs to be controlled by the end-user, not from the top down. The subject matter or your typical TV news broadcast is usually worse than 90% of the content on the internet - easier to hide the remote than ban the news.

 

[CDNClouds]

Are these the same people that used to spoon feed us that milk, eggs and salt etc... was bad for us and then said they were good for us and then only in moderation?

The nanny state will only really screw over the remaining middle class and lessers in our society, but since that's roughly 80+% of us out there, I think it's yet another way to rope in the masses. Almost like the Colorado movie theatre shooting was a false flag to gain approval of the UN bill to effectively take all guns (or at least try) from law abiding citizens. The 2nd Amendment is at risk, the 1st Amendment is the next to take massive hits and I have a feeling this is only the start.

 

[Petrodus]

Regulation of the internet is the END of free speech as we know it

100% True !! ... Not 99.9% true but 100% true

Regulating the Internet would start off with the Oh, so very obvious things
that few would object to ... Fast forward 1-2 years ... Just as well be living
in China where even Google search terms are blocked.

I'm well over 60 yrs old and these old eyes have witnessed
"The State" steal more freedoms than many here even
knew existed.

We live in a ban-happy country and even many of us here
have our list of what should be banned.

Unfortunately ... today almost 50% of the population is addicted
to the Nanny State and those numbers are rising. So, in time
the Internet will be regulated.

There is no such thing as limited regulations.

Ya just can't control thought unless ya can control the Internet.

 

[705techno]

The US & Canada should regulate the content that flows through it's ISP's. The internet is a shared network and easily accessible to children. I don't want my kids subjected to the crap that they can easily stumble upon. Let's face it, the real winners are porn sites. Combined they probably earn more revenue than that of many of the big guys. If the CRTC can regulate the way of which porn travels through my cable provider - why the hell can't they regulate it through the internet. I'm no way in favor of a communistic approach but the internet has become somewhat of an uncontrollable beast. 3rd party software can help like Netnanny etc but their basically garbage. Instead of ISP's forcing Canadians to pay for tier bandwidth, they should be locking all adult content & charge those who choose to use those sites. Can you imagine the horror a parent faces knowing their dead son or daughter's murder was taped & uploaded to the internet? Absolutely disgusting!

Just a view perspective from a concerned parent.

I am sorry but this post made my mouth drop.

The very thing that has become so addictive about the WWW is the personal freedoms that come along with it. Mainstream media has become so convoluted and profit hungry that good content is all but eliminated in favour of crap that has mass appeal to sell to the sheeple.

There is no way I want my content "filtered" or "censored" in any way, shape or form. Doing so would just make this world another cable tv box.

"Think of the children" just doesn't cut it.

If you want a childproof web browsing experience simply turn on your safe search settings in google or download some third party lock and key software. Leave the real content alone for the rest of us.

 

[705techno]

Regarding the OP's post; yes I feel that all these trade union groups backed by lobbiests are a threat; however they never seem to get what they want and just regroup or shift their collective focus to another organization.

ACTA was the last big one, and AFAIK it is sputtering, being shunned by enough countries to force them to regroup. This may have changed in the last while but from what I last read this seemed to be the case.

They ask for too much, become exposed for what they are, are beaten back, and then try to sneak in another way. Maybe one day they will succeed, I hope not, but I have no power whatsoever as a common man on a keyboard.

 

[James416]

The US & Canada should regulate the content that flows through it's ISP's. The internet is a shared network and easily accessible to children. I don't want my kids subjected to the crap that they can easily stumble upon. Let's face it, the real winners are porn sites. Combined they probably earn more revenue than that of many of the big guys. If the CRTC can regulate the way of which porn travels through my cable provider - why the hell can't they regulate it through the internet. I'm no way in favor of a communistic approach but the internet has become somewhat of an uncontrollable beast. 3rd party software can help like Netnanny etc but their basically garbage. Instead of ISP's forcing Canadians to pay for tier bandwidth, they should be locking all adult content & charge those who choose to use those sites. Can you imagine the horror a parent faces knowing their dead son or daughter's murder was taped & uploaded to the internet? Absolutely disgusting!

Just a view perspective from a concerned parent.

You could always turn parental control and pop up blocker on, or set up a new user and only allow them to view so many websites. I'm not defending these websites but the fact that we are suppose to be a free country, the right to do as we wish. All these regulations we have is what worries me about the future of vaping. I've been smoking since i was 15yrs old and haven't stopped for more then 2 days whenever trying to quit, i'm now at my 7th and have no intensions to look back on those filthy things. I'm still not 100% on the health issues associated with vaping but how can it be worse then analogs? My point being is as a parent i know myself that its my job to make sure they don't access negative findings on the internet, not my govt. Although this law isn't exactly what your getting at i do understand what you mean, but its getting ridiculous don't you think? As it is i don't even vape in a public place or indoors just for the fact i know its going to get a bad rep and get regulated as well oh and TAXED to crap!! Until this forum idk how popular vaping was because i never seen it. I know we should all be out there vaping in the publics eye to reach awareness but then here we go with the "govt regulations" and tax grab.... I hope you dont take that as a personal attack on you LOL

 

[johnny bobcat]

this seriously irks me, I think south park covered this perfectly. A few years ago they did an episode about online music and video piracy, and how it effected those artists you people were "stealing from". Saying that the poor drummer from metallica wont be able to get a 70 foot yacht, and have to SETTLE for a 50 foot one.
Who is online piracy actually hurting? Do these people think that they are saving lady gaga from starvation? The entire concept is insulting and pointless.

 

[sherid]

100% True !! ... Not 99.9% true but 100% true

Regulating the Internet would start off with the Oh, so very obvious things
that few would object to ... Fast forward 1-2 years ... Just as well be living
in China where even Google search terms are blocked.

I'm well over 60 yrs old and these old eyes have witnessed
"The State" steal more freedoms than many here even
knew existed.

We live in a ban-happy country and even many of us here
have our list of what should be banned.

Unfortunately ... today almost 50% of the population is addicted
to the Nanny State and those numbers are rising. So, in time
the Internet will be regulated.

There is no such thing as limited regulations.

Ya just can't control thought unless ya can control the Internet.

Kind of like the beginning of the anti-smoker terrorists who said, "we only want to ban smoking on airplanes" followed by "we only want to ban smoking in the workplace, on the sidewalk, in your home, in your yard, etc. etc. etc." ENOUGH of all the banners. Now, a new mom in NYC has little choice as to whether she wants to breast or bottle feed her baby. PLEASE rid our society of these people.

 

[jeffjr464]

The US & Canada should regulate the content that flows through it's ISP's. The internet is a shared network and easily accessible to children. I don't want my kids subjected to the crap that they can easily stumble upon. Let's face it, the real winners are porn sites. Combined they probably earn more revenue than that of many of the big guys. If the CRTC can regulate the way of which porn travels through my cable provider - why the hell can't they regulate it through the internet. I'm no way in favor of a communistic approach but the internet has become somewhat of an uncontrollable beast. 3rd party software can help like Netnanny etc but their basically garbage. Instead of ISP's forcing Canadians to pay for tier bandwidth, they should be locking all adult content & charge those who choose to use those sites. Can you imagine the horror a parent faces knowing their dead son or daughter's murder was taped & uploaded to the internet? Absolutely disgusting!

Just a view perspective from a concerned parent.

pretty sure raising and protecting your kids from everyday stuff falls under your jurisdiction and it's your responsibility not mine or the governments, that's the problem with the world today, everyone wants someone else to do it for them, personally i think the less government the better, this damn yuppie society is going waaaay to far, if your too stupid to know something is dangerous,bad, hot, etc then you shouldn't have made it to the ovum, i'm sick of being told what i can and can't do, it's getting silly

 

[RockyMountain]

Parental control is the parents job, agreed, I do and say what I want(within the law of course There is no real freedom anywhere anymore, buy an island like David Copperfeild(a string of islands in fact) and disconnect from the so called freedom of speech world that we live in. Then you can say what ever you want and no one will have anything to say about it.