OT: Wanna know what SOPA will be like...

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plarkinjr

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I was alerted to another aspect of SOPA/PIPA the day of the protest....
Imagine two political groups (pro-life/anti-abortion, pro-gun/gun-control, whatever).....
Now, imagine one group alerts its members of the "other" group's actions by quoting something from their website. Well, the quoted group could accuse the other of copyright infringement and shut down the opposing group's website. Far fetched? maybe. But possible, and a slippery slope.
 

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Help me, help me, copyright infringement! How dare the government get involved in pursuing copyright infringement! Which is it today?

SOPA and PIPA are simply more evidence of how money buys political influence...just look at the main sponsor's largest political donors. This subject was broached here not too long ago, the bill got tabled (killed) like I thought it would. Given that neither became law, neither have a thing to do with Megaupload which was subject to laws already on the books. The slogan like most sounds good, Stop Online Piracy Act. The problem is most of it's supporters never read or understood the bill's far reaching possible impact.

Maher said it best the other night on his show, Americans love free stuff just as long as the free stuff being taken isn't theirs.
 

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There's an exclusion in that statement for Politicians, Hedge Fund Managers, and a few multi-billion dollar corporations.

Um, as a book title, actually it was specifically directed at politicians, voters, and yes, even General Electric and the like. (Hedge fund managers invest -- i.e., risk -- other people's money. Sometimes they reap gains, and sometimes they reap losses. But they charge for their services -- they certainly don't work for free. :blink:)

I think the key concept is "other peoples' money." That's what's being spent on anything anyone thinks they're getting for "free."

Here endeth the Economics lesson for today. :)
 
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Likely was written by MPAA and RIAA and one of their stooges in congress presented it.

Those organizations were both heavily involved, and it is of course true that intellectual property is actual property and therefore subject to property rights laws. Alas, those bills were, as I said, sledgehammers, when what is needed to protect these specific property rights is a scalpel.

I'm very glad they went down to defeat. Now back to the drawing board, hopefully this time by more competent drafters.
 

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Now megaupload tomarrow your e-mail. We need to see what there real goal is. They start small, then work there way up. This is not going to be about just copyright infringement, we need to read the fine print. The goverement is working it's way into our lives. Whether you belive in copyright infrigement or not. This is just there way of getting control of our lives. Nothing is the way it seems.
 

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As it was stated, the bill is dead. But there is another one called ACTA, and from what I understand the only thing it does is:

"Prosecutes people that download illegal music, movies, and computer programs"

Hopefully that will tell SOPA and PIPA that they are not needed.


:shock: What?? A one-line piece of legislation? Oh, that will NEVER pass! We need at least 3,000 pages, with hundreds of open clauses stating "as the Director of the FCC shall determine." :D:D
 

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They are going to try to find a way to control the internet. They want complete control of us from the cradle to the grave.But, notice the phraseology of Reed's and Smith’s decisions to take the legislation off the table. Reed, the Democrat, said he would “postpone” a vote on the matters involved. Smith, the Republican, said he would “delay” action on such legislation until there was agreement--i.e., the hounds of Big Brotherism haven’t given up on ways to get into governing Internet. They are merely backing off for the time being to figure new ways to come at that area of freedom from other angles. And, they are indeed continuing to come at our freedoms from every angle.

Their intrusion is always in the guise of wanting to benevolently secure one area or the other of our lives. In the case of the Internet legislation, PIPA in the Senate and SOPA in the House, solutions were promised to piracy and copyright infringement in America and around the world. Now, the forces are marshaling to come up with new versions that the enforcers are promising will not chill free expression or threaten the economic growth and innovation the Internet provides

They will use one thing to get to another. Can't trust big brother.
 
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