OVALE eVic !!! is this the future of vaping???

[tc1]

Just because you feel features are gimmicky doesn't mean others will feel the same way.

For instance, I'd rather be able to upgrade the firmware of my device from my computer than send it off somewhere and pay to have it upgraded ... or be forced to purchase the new revision that fixes the issues that should have been fixed to begin with.

To some that could be a gimmick ... to me it's an easy and logical step towards the right direction when it comes to consumer satisfaction.

I also like how I can statistically track the life I am getting out of my battery over time. Eventually I would be able to figure out which batteries provide the best performance over time in a MUCH easier way.

 

[Vappa]

The software is supposed to load when you plug in the evic. Not sure what my system is recognizing the evic as since I don't see anything when clicking the computer icon (I'm running windows 7)

I've had the same problem. Solution: Uninstall and then re-install the MVR software.

Other issue i had was that the MVR software was running, but it didn't recognize the eVic, so it said "No communication" (or something like this). The solution to this: Uninstall the USB device in the hardware devices, uninstall the MVR software. Then reinstall MVR. It should be fine after this.

 

[Vappa]

I saw a picture of the top of a Ovale/Joyetech eVic, and it doesn't look like it has eGo threads, which is what the Kranger has, I believe. You can probably get an adapter though.

You can use Kanger T2 and T3. These are the only clearos i have at the moment and they fit nicely on the eVic. No worry.

 

[Vappa]

To me it looks like a big gimmick. A device for people that think by using this they will have a better vaping experience. Really if you think a little you know it is not. It might be appealing all the LED's and settings but really it is not going to blow you away or be any better then what is already out there. You can give this device to a novice and he/she will have the same crappy vape if they don't know what to put on top of it. IMHO it is about the heat of the wire, not so much voltage or wattage or how shiny the unit looks. After 3 years + of vaping every device that has been on the market I dare to say that the best vape is achieved when you have all the variables perfect: the device, the batteries, the the ingredients, all together in harmony will give you that experience. You can achieve that with little money, no fancy high tech devices but with the knowledge of what those variables mean.

It is like cooking: you think a digital oven will make a better dish?

Eeh, and which devices are you using? I believe you might have more than one of the higher end devices. So what's the rationale behind that? One (digital) oven would be enough, not?

Nobody said the eVic will give you a better vaping experience. Well maybe Joytech is advertising it this way, i don't know. Nobody said the eVic is better than ... (fill in your favorite device). Sure there are better devices than the eVic. I'm sure there are also alot of devices that are crap. So far, in my experience with the eVic i wouldn't call it crap, although i have my issues with it .

I agree with you that the PV is only part of a good vaping experience. And i also agree with you that it is more important what you actually use on it (and the juice you use in it). But if you have a well performing device and you use it on a crappy PV the total vaping experience would be crap. As always, it's the weakest link that breaks the chain.

For the rest, people that like bells and whistles on a PV will find the eVic a nice PV. If you don't need that or don't want that, there are enough other options to suit your need.
For myself, i am very happy with my Vamo at the moment, because of the easy setting of the device, and it being a true VV/VW device. For my (current) needs it fits perfectly. The eVic looks better and fits better in my hands though. So i use this throughout the day and my Vamo is there when i come home from work.
And maybe, just maybe, i will buy another PV in the future. Not because i really need it. But simply because i want it.

 

[djensen9367]

Vappa, How did you download the evic update program or where did you get it from. I have been looking on the site but haven't found anything yet

 

[Vappa]

Check out this link. In the side menu, under downloads you'll find a link to the MVR software and a link to the eVic program (firmware). Currently they are both V1.0

 

[djensen9367]

Thanks a lot, don't know how I missed it

 

[Youssefa]

Check out this link. In the side menu, under downloads you'll find a link to the MVR software and a link to the eVic program (firmware). Currently they are both V1.0

http://www.ovaleusa.com/shop/download/MVR_V1.0_install.zip

 

[Youssefa]

try re-installling the SW to get detection.

 

[sanman969]

Agreed. I had the same issue. Worked for a few days then would not detect. I re-installed the software and then it would detect.

BE WARNED, a re-installation seems to delete the old vape data that may have been downloaded from the eVic. I made a copy of the old folder but don't see a way to recombine the old data into the new. It appears to be a single DB file and index. Once the data is read from the eVic it is deleted. So..... there's that.

try re-installling the SW to get detection.

 

[TommyGunBC]

What I don't get it about the Evic is if it was built right and tested properly , why would one need a firmware upgrade , all it has to do is be able to change voltages and wattage and tell you ohms of your atty, carto ,rba etc . I see the firmware as just changes to the silly software that will tell you how many times you hit the button and for how long and why do you need to know that ??

I have a Provari and am more than happy with it yes it is a little expensive , but it is well built and made in the USA , support local retailers to strengthen the economy !. Most of the USA cries about not having jobs and how nothing is made in the USA , why are you to cheap to buy locally made products ? then you get what you pay for jobs shipped overseas for cheaper less quality products and the cycle continues .

 

[flintlock62]

What device on the market hasn't needed an upgrade? How many devices can be upgraded at home? Even the beloved Provari is on V2!

What I don't get it about the Evic is if it was built right and tested properly , why would one need a firmware upgrade , all it has to do is be able to change voltages and wattage and tell you ohms of your atty, carto ,rba etc . I see the firmware as just changes to the silly software that will tell you how many times you hit the button and for how long and why do you need to know that ??

I have a Provari and am more than happy with it yes it is a little expensive , but it is well built and made in the USA , support local retailers to strengthen the economy !. Most of the USA cries about not having jobs and how nothing is made in the USA , why are you to cheap to buy locally made products and you get what you pay for.

 

[TommyGunBC]

my Provari is a V1 and I don't have any need for the upgrade , I know what I like as in single coil cartos and my ZAU and I don't have a need for the higher amps watts etc on the V2 , that was mainly for the dual coil carto people and if you know anything dual coils are junk .

if the product is built and tested properly out the gate upgrades aren't needed , they are just a want as in Apple releasing a new Iproduct every couple of months because they know the consumer these days are MUST HAVE NOW sheep and will be fleeced .

I still use my silver bullet every day and that is a 3 almost 4 year old mod and yes I upgraded to a kick sleeve to have the ability to control the wattage but that was a add on

 

[tc1]

As people's needs change, so does the device in order to meet those needs. As already stated, even the Provari has went through a firmware update.

Also, as the complexity of these devices grow there is a bigger chance that bugs and issues can occur outside of what was found during testing. A small group of people can never test a product more thoroughly than thousands. I mean ... how many apps and software packages have you owned that never released an update? You can test a product until the cows come home, but into you put it out to market and see the results based on volume of use you never know for sure. Same reason why so many vehicle recalls happen ...

 

[Symmetry]

What's wrong with upgrades? They aren't needed, but they can add extra functionality. They can also fix bugs (which are unavoidable with any system) post purchase, rather than having to spend $100 on a new version.

Sent from my SGH-I777 using Tapatalk 2

 

[tc1]

my Provari is a V1 and I don't have any need for the upgrade , I know what I like as in single coil cartos and my ZAU and I don't have a need for the higher amps watts etc on the V2 , that was mainly for the dual coil carto people and if you know anything dual coils are junk .

And that's fine. But others may not feel the same way. Again, you can't just think in terms of "what I like". Devices are not made just for one person or a single group of people. If you don't need those features, then obviously you don't need to buy it. But you can't marginalize the needs and wants of OTHERS based on your own opinion.

It's rather selfish (not talking to you directly) to say a device/feature is no good or not needed simply because you personally see no point in it. Fact is, others may feel the exact opposite ... and it is those people that a certain device or feature might interest.

 

[flintlock62]

I'm sick of this thread. It's gone beyond ridiculous! When I get my eVic, I'll start my own thread.

UNSUBSCRIBED!

 

[sanman969]

I agree with you TommyGunBC, although I could see them adding new features or functionality in the future. Right now some things need to be tuned, fixed, and they could improve the usability of the menu tree. Once a device goes public you have a larger 'test base' that will uncover issues and make recommendations for improved functionality. Firmware upgrades allow for these changes to be deployed in a distributed fashion where the device doesn't have to be sent back to the manufacturer to be upgraded.

Rambling here... but I get your point.

my Provari is a V1 and I don't have any need for the upgrade , I know what I like as in single coil cartos and my ZAU and I don't have a need for the higher amps watts etc on the V2 , that was mainly for the dual coil carto people and if you know anything dual coils are junk .

if the product is built and tested properly out the gate upgrades aren't needed , they are just a want as in Apple releasing a new Iproduct every couple of months because they know the consumer these days are MUST HAVE NOW sheep and will be fleeced .

I still use my silver bullet every day and that is a 3 almost 4 year old mod and yes I upgraded to a kick sleeve to have the ability to control the wattage but that was a add on

 

[denali_41]

As people's needs change, so does the device in order to meet those needs. As already stated, even the Provari has went through a firmware update.

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i guess you are not getting the point ?? when the pro V1 came out,,it worked as it was expected to right out of the gate !! no firmware or circuit boards version upgrades were needed,it worked perfect the first time
the V2 came out as an option ,as it was not needed other then having a higher amp limit

the evic is already having problems and it is barely on the market ,,,thats the difference


the only fair comparision between the tried and true provari and the evic is ?? they are both pc's and can use the same battery

 

[tc1]

i guess you are not getting the point ?? when the pro V1 came out,,it worked as it was expected to right out of the gate !! no firmware or circuit boards version upgrades were needed,it worked perfect the first time
the V2 came out as an option ,as it was not needed other then having a higher amp limit

the evic is already having problems and it is barely on the market ,,,thats the difference


the only fair comparision between the tried and true provari and the evic is ?? they are both pc's and can use the same battery

My point was based on him questioning whether being able to upgrade the firmware from your PC was viable. Clearly it is. If the Provari had the ability to be plugged into a computer and updated for free .... how many v1 Provari users do you think there would be on this forum? Not many right? Exactly my point.

No one is arguing whether or not the Provari v1 was a finished product.