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Hi everybody,

I am pretty new to this forum (which is pretty awesome by the way) and have been vaping for a while but I am still a novice to it as far as the whole maintenance thing goes because there's not really anywhere to read up on this stuff except for those mainbrand Blu cigs or something, so I was hoping someone could give me a little advice..
(I've got the Kanger T3'd tank (they call it an eVod II at the shop unless I am thinking of something else) with the itaste clk 1280 pass through battery. It's a volt change that goes from 3.5-5.0 if that helps)

I think I've had the tank since early August and have been changing the wicks out every 3 or 4 weeks since and will usually change the wick if I notice there is less vepor pulling than usual. Don't get me wrong, this tank has been very awesome so far with no troubles until now (unless it's the battery). It's the best one I have used so far, gets a great taste from the juice, and an insane amount of vapor compared to others I've tried before, at least to me haha :p

I changed the wick again two days ago and cleaned the tank out with some hot water and let it dry out. But the past two weeks or so I've noticed whenever I go to refill my tank, there has been a small amount of juice in the part of the battery where the tank screws over (I guess like the heating part??) so I've just been cleaning it with a q-tip every time i refill the tank. Also, I've noticed the liquid turns brown kinda towards the bottom of the tank and the ecig will get kinda hot around where the battery and tank connect. I was just looking at it because I was literally getting no vapor at all out of it, cleaned it, then refilled it to 1.5mL and kinda just held the button for a few seconds and it got really hot and brown liquid was coming out of a small hole on the wick (the liquid I am using is almost clear so it was easy to see). Like it was burning the juice or somet? I took the wick out and found out I could pull this small cap looking thing off the bottom, if you are looking at it standing straight up, and put it back in. Tried vaping it after I did that and it's working right again?

I have no clue why it was doing that, and want to know if there's a fix for it if it happens again, If not, I'll just go buy another tank completely. Just tryin to save some money and gain some knowledge,
BTW, sorry this thread is so long, I just wanted to be as descriptive as possible ha.

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All clearomizers like the one you are using have a lifespan due to the rubber and silicone grommets and seals they have inside them. Sounds to me like one of the ones you have is possibly scorched. This would also explain the slight leaking you have.

They are little bits of mass produced plastic and metal. Getting 5-6 months from one (especially if it's your only topper) sounds about right to me.

Next time you change the coil head, take everything apart and inspect it. The 510 connector at the bottom (where you screw the head in to the base) has a grommet to seal it - I reckon if you look closely, you'll find that is your issue.
 

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...there has been a small amount of juice in the part of the battery where the tank screws over (I guess like the heating part??) so I've just been cleaning it with a q-tip every time i refill the tank.

This is normal due to the way those tanks are designed, if eliquid drips from the coil at all a drop or so will be left on the battery contact. You're doing right by cleaning it when you change/switch, as if you don't it can help pull more eliquid out. Sometimes there's condensation and such from the tube, etc. The aero/airflow bases they sell are designed differently, so it doesn't happen.

Different viscosities of eliquid andother factors (how full it is, how you draw, room temp, etc.) will affect this. As could compromising the insulator of the coil or it's o-rings.

Also, I've noticed the liquid turns brown kinda towards the bottom of the tank and the ecig will get kinda hot around where the battery and tank connect.

Yeah, what happens here is that while you are rinsing the silica wicks and the ends look cleaner, inside two things are happening:

1. The coil itself is getting caked with gunk
2. The silica is a lot tighter inside the coil compared to the ends, so there's going to be more caked in/gunked stuff.

So the gunk is slowly dispersing into your tank. It's basically a combination of flavorings, nicotine and room dust -- as remember, air is going into the tank and bringing with it whatever is in the air.

You didn't mention it, but I'd bet a cookie that you are raising the voltage in order to compensate for lessened vapor production from the coil, because it's coated up, and that's why it's getting hot.

I was just looking at it because I was literally getting no vapor at all out of it, cleaned it, then refilled it to 1.5mL and kinda just held the button for a few seconds and it got really hot and brown liquid was coming out of a small hole on the wick (the liquid I am using is almost clear so it was easy to see). Like it was burning the juice or somet?

It doesn't sound like much eliquid was getting to the coil, so you were essentially dry-burning the coil inside the tank. Which would basically causeit to burn off/ash a bunch of the gunk... ...but it's more likely the coils still had water in them and the eliquid wasn't getting the wicks saturated by the time you went to fire it. So you got rid of some ofthe gunk/water, the eliquid went in, and off you went.

What I don't get is why you didn't notice a real shift in taste.

I took the wick out and found out I could pull this small cap looking thing off the bottom, if you are looking at it standing straight up, and put it back in. Tried vaping it after I did that and it's working right again?

You successfully wigged me out here until I reversed what you were saying. I believe you're talking about the larger donut shaped cap that slides down the metal chimney. That's to help create a seal so that eliquid isn't leaking into where the chimney and coil base meet, though it can also push onto the wicks and help keep the coil from flooding.

If your wicks aren't wicking well, *flipping* it might be a better option than removing it to avoid flooding unless you have a really thick eliquid.

Anyways, you don't need a new tank, it sounds like you've just been reusing the same coils over and over? A new pack for $5-8 should sort you unless I'm missing something.
 
Thanks for the very detailed response! A lot of what you said definitely makes sense, very informative.
And I think I do owe you a cookie for that, because I was trying to raise the voltage to get more vapor lol.

As far as the taste changing goes, it didn't really change taste wise. The vapor that did come out did seem warmer or rather harsher breathing in though.

And the last thing you quoted me on..I should have clarified the changing the wicks better (sorry I'm not too familiar with terminology on this stuff). Basically, the store I get them from sells the 'wicks' as really already put together, so it's the coil, wicks, and a skinny tube that kind of slides into the "chimney" you were talking about as an already put together package. So I am replacing the coils too every time I change it out. I was just saying changing the wicks because that's what they were calling them there :d sorry for the confusion.
 

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This is normal due to the way those tanks are designed, if eliquid drips from the coil at all a drop or so will be left on the battery contact. You're doing right by cleaning it when you change/switch, as if you don't it can help pull more eliquid out. Sometimes there's condensation and such from the tube, etc. The aero/airflow bases they sell are designed differently, so it doesn't happen.

Different viscosities of eliquid andother factors (how full it is, how you draw, room temp, etc.) will affect this. As could compromising the insulator of the coil or it's o-rings.



Yeah, what happens here is that while you are rinsing the silica wicks and the ends look cleaner, inside two things are happening:

1. The coil itself is getting caked with gunk
2. The silica is a lot tighter inside the coil compared to the ends, so there's going to be more caked in/gunked stuff.

So the gunk is slowly dispersing into your tank. It's basically a combination of flavorings, nicotine and room dust -- as remember, air is going into the tank and bringing with it whatever is in the air.

You didn't mention it, but I'd bet a cookie that you are raising the voltage in order to compensate for lessened vapor production from the coil, because it's coated up, and that's why it's getting hot.



It doesn't sound like much eliquid was getting to the coil, so you were essentially dry-burning the coil inside the tank. Which would basically causeit to burn off/ash a bunch of the gunk... ...but it's more likely the coils still had water in them and the eliquid wasn't getting the wicks saturated by the time you went to fire it. So you got rid of some ofthe gunk/water, the eliquid went in, and off you went.

What I don't get is why you didn't notice a real shift in taste.



You successfully wigged me out here until I reversed what you were saying. I believe you're talking about the larger donut shaped cap that slides down the metal chimney. That's to help create a seal so that eliquid isn't leaking into where the chimney and coil base meet, though it can also push onto the wicks and help keep the coil from flooding.

If your wicks aren't wicking well, *flipping* it might be a better option than removing it to avoid flooding unless you have a really thick eliquid.

Anyways, you don't need a new tank, it sounds like you've just been reusing the same coils over and over? A new pack for $5-8 should sort you unless I'm missing something.

Hear him.. this guy is the Sh.t! (with all due respect)
 

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And I think I do owe you a cookie for that, because I was trying to raise the voltage to get more vapor lol.

COOKIE COOKIE COOKIE COOKIE COOKIE COOKIE

And the last thing you quoted me on..I should have clarified the changing the wicks better (sorry I'm not too familiar with terminology on this stuff). Basically, the store I get them from sells the 'wicks' as really already put together, so it's the coil, wicks, and a skinny tube that kind of slides into the "chimney" you were talking about as an already put together package.

Ah, gotcha. Yeah, I was going by cleaning not replacing the coils. That makes perfect sense to me, minus the skinny tube which I don't have in my head at all. Two questions:

1. Are these replacements single or dual coil?

2. Would you have the time to post a pic of one of the replacements as they come from the bag/etc?
 

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Also.. you may want to start experimenting on rebuilding ... and use organic cotton for the wick (if you are not already). A micro coil and cotton wick makes wonders!! There is a HUGE collection of vapers sharing knowledge, personally I have found this guy to be a very good start when it comes to advise and knowledge ... RIP trippers

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCgZd5ygXFoQry9KDGlddSBg
 

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Ah, gotcha. Yeah, I was going by cleaning not replacing the coils. That makes perfect sense to me, minus the skinny tube which I don't have in my head at all. Two questions:

1. Are these replacements single or dual coil?

2. Would you have the time to post a pic of one of the replacements as they come from the bag/etc?

My inner fat child is screaming for cookies now, may I have some of yours sir?
 

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Thanks for the very detailed response! A lot of what you said definitely makes sense, very informative.
And I think I do owe you a cookie for that, because I was trying to raise the voltage to get more vapor lol.

As far as the taste changing goes, it didn't really change taste wise. The vapor that did come out did seem warmer or rather harsher breathing in though.

And the last thing you quoted me on..I should have clarified the changing the wicks better (sorry I'm not too familiar with terminology on this stuff). Basically, the store I get them from sells the 'wicks' as really already put together, so it's the coil, wicks, and a skinny tube that kind of slides into the "chimney" you were talking about as an already put together package. So I am replacing the coils too every time I change it out. I was just saying changing the wicks because that's what they were calling them there :d sorry for the confusion.

Quite honestly .. if you really want to get into vaping... quit silica coils, that´s mass production stuff, Try cotton .. and I am sorry if I am blunt, but trust me if you have thus far been with silica, cotton.. oh man! is life changing! but I agree with @drunkenbatman ... you are burning your coil/wick and that is infesting your liquid....
 

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Hi patrickbluefrog and welcome aboard!

One other point. You said that when you took off the cap and put it back on, your tank started to work better. That's likely because the cap was originally pressing down on the wicks to hard and choking them off, thus restricting the flow of e-liquid to the heating coil inside. When you took the cap off and put it back on, you likely didn't put it back on as tight, and relieved the pressure on the wicks.

Some folks even resort to snipping off a TINY bit of that cap when it's too tight on the coils.

Hope that helps and Happy Vaping!
 
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Hear him.. this guy is the Sh.t! (with all due respect)

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For the record, if I ever look like the shizznit, it's because 95% of what I know I picked up here or other forums, and standing on the shoulders of others makes you look taller. And because I am.
 
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