passthrough batteries

[stormwench]

I am seeming to kill off the ego style passthrough (not vv) that I use a lot. I have killed 3 in 6 months and still have my basic egos from 8 mo ago that are just fine.

The only difference I can tell is how I recharge them. Rarely do the passthrough run out of charge since they are mainly my 'at home' batteries and usually get plugged into the charge regularly while I am working because I can use and charge, I don't think its over charging because as soon as they are fully charged I disconnect them from the USB charger.

I was wondering if its because I am not treating them like I would my laptop and tablet batteries and make sure that they run out about once a month and get a full from empty recharge.

My other ego's never hit the charger most times until the little blue button blinks that they are out of charge and the coil won't fire. SO except in an odd case they are almost always recharged fully.

Am I burning up the passthroughs by keeping them 'topped' off like all the time? Or is it just the nature of the beast?

 

[Kent C]

Actually you lengthen the life of the batt the more you top it off. So it's something else. I've had Joye eGo-c upgrade PT's at my chair, computer and car since they've come out. One earlier one, also a Joye but no letter - ie. early Joye, in the car, go so much work that the usb wire simply wore out. Replaced the wire and all was good. Sometimes the usb connection in the batt could get overworked as well. You may be burning them out with atty/coil shorts.

Are you vaping with LR attys/coils? Are they joye products? Joye warranties are good for 6 months but you may have to go through your vendor to do that - and pay for postage... but if you're sending three back it may be worth it.

 

[Johnny Skillish]

Actually you lengthen the life of the batt the more you top it off. So it's something else. I've had Joye eGo-c upgrade PT's at my chair, computer and car since they've come out. One earlier one, also a Joye but no letter - ie. early Joye, in the car, go so much work that the usb wire simply wore out. Replaced the wire and all was good. Sometimes the usb connection in the batt could get overworked as well. You may be burning them out with atty/coil shorts.

Are you vaping with LR attys/coils? Are they joye products? Joye warranties are good for 6 months but you may have to go through your vendor to do that - and pay for postage... but if you're sending three back it may be worth it.

I'm jumping in here because I was wondering if Joye products (atty's, eGo batts) are the best?

 

[Johnny Skillish]

Hi again!

I have an eGo vv 1200 mah coming in the mail right now! My first vv device!

And I'd read about similar issues and am already afraid I'm gonna kill this thing before I even get it!

It also has a mini-usb passthrough and ordered it because I can use it at my computer which I'm at all the time. But I don't want to be buying new ones all the time!

I had asked the CS dpt. at Apollo (where I ordered mine from) if I could ALSO USE the wall adapter usb with it without any ill effects. She said she didn't see why not. Not really an answer.

Not trying to HJ your thread, but I've already seen and am nervous of the same issues.

Maybe you could let me know if you find a working solution, and vice-versa?

All the best!

-JS

 

[stormwench]

Actually you lengthen the life of the batt the more you top it off. So it's something else. I've had Joye eGo-c upgrade PT's at my chair, computer and car since they've come out. One earlier one, also a Joye but no letter - ie. early Joye, in the car, go so much work that the usb wire simply wore out. Replaced the wire and all was good. Sometimes the usb connection in the batt could get overworked as well. You may be burning them out with atty/coil shorts.

Only using LR coils (CE5's mostly and a couple of VIVI Novas with 1.8 ohm coils). None of them have been official branded Joye products - most were vendor branded. In one case it was a overseas purchased 'knock off' and I discounted its lifespan to me "trying to save money" vs "any other things" I was doing. In two cases it was the (I assumed) the exact same battery as they were purchased and branded through the same vendor, but they have been various but never 'official' Joye products. don't hear much chatter about standard passthrough batteries - much more about vv passthrough so maybe its the nature of the beast or at least my beasts. I had also wondered if too much use while charging would shorten the life but that would seem to be such a big engineering flaw everyone would notice it if it was the case.

Anyway, I just bought a Joye Ego V v2 Mega 1200 mAh (which arrived today - a whole bunch of vape mail arrived today all at once and it was like Christmas)) and hope that I have much better luck with how long it sticks with me.

It's interesting, Johnny Skillish, that you ask about using wall/car chargers since the instruction book (never got an instruction book with a battery before) happens to say specifically that the VV v2 can use a computer, USB wall charger or USB car charger as long as the USB cable provided with the V2 is used. It strongly stresses not to use it with a standard ego battery (screw in) type charger. I assume someone in the past screwed one into a standard charger in a pinch or after losing the USB cable and the results were startling enough that Joye wants to warn you

So I am crossing my fingers and studying the chart as to what resistances are best at what voltages (is in this nice little booklet and made more sense than what I have read or listened too before) and was never clear on with my other vv device. I hope that I have a nice long lasting device here. I love passthroughs but was getting worried, at least with the standard batteries, that they were not as 'tough'.

Its really good to know that 'topping' off is better since my style is to do that so much (OOC paranoia I guess). Thank you.

 

[Kent C]

I'm jumping in here because I was wondering if Joye products (atty's, eGo batts) are the best?

I've come to that conclusion after having various ones along the way, Riva's, Smoktek, Vision (not that bad) and plain old knockoffs. Joye's threading is good for being Chinese. Kanger used to be terrible - they've improved. And the one thing that for me puts Joye above the rest is the short and charge protection instituted with the eGo-t and improved with the eGo-c and eGo-c upgrade batts as well as the Twists. And yeah, I don't like that you can always see the voltage on the Twist well but I rarely change one once I find the sweet spot for the flavor. When I'm sampling - then I have to turn on a light


I've mentioned this several times but we've had techy's here try to blow up an eGo-c unsuccessfully when they can blow up almost any other battery with the 'right' technique That's the short and charge protection working. I didn't throw away my earlier eGos but when they died I replaced them with eGo-c's and eGo-c upgrade batts. They cost more and you get what you pay for. All you have to do is read this forum on knockoffs - they're cheap and some of them do very well but there's a lot that don't make it. And of course, with any brand, you CAN get a lemon even with Joye. But unlike others they have a 6 month warranty and yeah, you'll likely have to pay for postage if it's going to China but as with almost all electronics -things either die early or last the regular lifetime. The trick is to get it back to the vendor quickly within Their warranty period if they have one and if they're carrying true Joye products, I've found that they do have at least 2 weeks for replacement by the Vendor. If not they have a way for you to return it to Joye directly.

And I've found for the most part with some exceptions that Joye LR attys, for example, work well with Joye eGo's but other manufacturers LR attys can short out eGo's.... Scottbee, myself and others found this out early on, and I hesitate putting anything less than 1.7-1.8 ohm coils on eGos if they are not Joye products. And I meter everything. Anything below 1.0 ohm will almost certainly take out the short protection on an eGo-c. It won't blow up, and it may still work but the short protection is blown. Usually evident by either no led upon using a lowered ohm coil or three flashes of the button led. You can sometimes revive it by putting it on the charger for about a minute or doing a 5 click on and off. The fact that you can do that rather than just having a dead battery also speaks to the quality of Joye, imo.

 

[Kent C]

Only using LR coils (CE5's mostly and a couple of VIVI Novas with 1.8 ohm coils). None of them have been official branded Joye products - most were vendor branded. In one case it was a overseas purchased 'knock off' and I discounted its lifespan to me "trying to save money" vs "any other things" I was doing. In two cases it was the (I assumed) the exact same battery as they were purchased and branded through the same vendor, but they have been various but never 'official' Joye products. don't hear much chatter about standard passthrough batteries - much more about vv passthrough so maybe its the nature of the beast or at least my beasts. I had also wondered if too much use while charging would shorten the life but that would seem to be such a big engineering flaw everyone would notice it if it was the case.

Anyway, I just bought a Joye Ego V v2 Mega 1200 mAh (which arrived today - a whole bunch of vape mail arrived today all at once and it was like Christmas)) and hope that I have much better luck with how long it sticks with me.

It's interesting, Johnny Skillish, that you ask about using wall/car chargers since the instruction book (never got an instruction book with a battery before) happens to say specifically that the VV v2 can use a computer, USB wall charger or USB car charger as long as the USB cable provided with the V2 is used. It strongly stresses not to use it with a standard ego battery (screw in) type charger. I assume someone in the past screwed one into a standard charger in a pinch or after losing the USB cable and the results were startling enough that Joye wants to warn you

So I am crossing my fingers and studying the chart as to what resistances are best at what voltages (is in this nice little booklet and made more sense than what I have read or listened too before) and was never clear on with my other vv device. I hope that I have a nice long lasting device here. I love passthroughs but was getting worried, at least with the standard batteries, that they were not as 'tough'.

Its really good to know that 'topping' off is better since my style is to do that so much (OOC paranoia I guess). Thank you.

See my reply to Johnny... Also 1.8 ohm should be ok for any eGo including Joye. Sorry to say that Joye doesn't make the eGo-V or any 1200mAh batt. or 1100mAh batt. Just 650, 900, 1000. There are eGo-t knockoffs but not sure if they've gotten to the eGo-c or the eGo-c upgrade batt. I'm sure there are knockoff Twists. Joye, like many manufacturers now, are instituting serial numbers on some of their newer products...eRoll, eVic, etc.... perhaps they'll do that with the eGo-c as well.

And there is no Joye VV passthrough either. The closest you get is the eGo-c upgrade passthrough with two modes - one they call 'vv' but it isn't true vv in the sense of a Twist. It's an unregulated voltage mode where the voltage does 'vary' but only on the regular curve of a 3.7v batt - @4.2v off the charger, 3.6-3.7V for most of the charge and then 3.2V at the end. The other mode is a constant 3.3-3.4V throughout the charge.

And vaping while hooked up 'charging' is not a problem and shouldn't be with any PT - that's what they're made for. Just when you stop vaping it goes into charging. Unless you're power vaping, the charge usually stays pretty much at the top voltage.