Paypal cancelled Johnson Creek account

[GrandMom]

Not sure if this is the right place - but just found on Johnson Creek's website dated today 8/3/2009.

Faster Production and Where PayPal Payments Went

by JCMark Smirniotis on August 3rd, 2009


Hi Everyone!
As of today, there are no further inventory caps throughout the store! Our lab is humming as it produces record amounts of your favorite flavors of Johnson Creek Original Smoke juice. While we are leaving the extended production time in place for a few more days, we are currently on track to be shipping next day before the end of the week.
For those of you that have been waiting, we apologize for the inconvenience and appreciate your patience – you should see a package any day!
Some of you have also noticed that PayPal is no longer a payment option on our site. Thursday morning we were told by PayPal that the company would not be processing future transactions relating to the e-cigarette industry – in our case that includes credit card and debit cards not tied to PayPal accounts. Though we were disappointed to see PayPal ignore our long and successful relationship, we were able to make the transition to a new processor with barely a hiccup.
Before dawn Friday, a new card processor we’d been working with very closely was integrated into our site. Though we understand many customers enjoy the conveniences of PayPal, we can assure you that our payment process is safe and secure – It uses 128-bit SSL encryption (the highest commercially available) and adheres to PCI (Payment Card Industry) Security Standards to keep your data safe.

We do not know how thorough PayPal’s actions will be in regards to e-smoking. As one of the most life-changing industries to reach many of our customers in recent years, we hope these changes won’t hinder the growth of such important technology. Similarly, we hope that any of our peers working with PayPal will be able to overcome any potential obstacles and continue to reach the people seeking these products.
Thanks for your patience, your loyalty, your trust and your feedback!
Regards,
Mark Smirniotis

 

[Zofryer]

Ok, this is atomic bombingly bad news. I'd suggest all vendors immediately start searching for alternatives to paypal before you get left in the lurch.

 

[DaMulta]

DAMN IT

I use paypal to even pay my bills......

I stash money in there......


@#%@#%ing FDA test other vendors already!

 

[STILLSMOK9]

The Ban is coming very soon!!!

It appears :-(

 

[DaMulta]

Also note I HATE ordering online WITHOUT paypal. It's kind of a safety net using Credit Cards online. I hate giving my Credit Card information to sites that I really don't know to trust.....

 

[geeker]

Paypal is/are idiotic. Can you imagine the amount of money they're forfeiting? If I had stock in them, I'd SELL.

 

[Sun Vaporer]

Well --that was reported with a few other companies and this is to be expected as the noose tightens--Embargos on imports, Payments, Shipping---all subject to attack. Looks like they are going to bring out all the guns to make it tough for us.

Sun

 

[DaMulta]

I bet it's because 1 to many people requested their money back on orders regarding E-Cig E-equipment/e-liquid.


All suppliers need to start marketing these mini fog machines.

 

[Applejackson]

Well, I'll be avoiding the use of Paypal whenever possible now. Shouldn't be too hard. Barely ever used it except for e-cig stuff anyway.

 

[PlanetScribbles]

I'll never use paypal again if they try that in the UK

 

[DC2]

I got my freaking order in just yesterday, so I'm a lucky sumbastard I guess.

 

[Duckies]

Recommend suppliers withdrawl into their bank accounts as soon as feasible. You don't want PP locking your account pending an 'inquiry'.

Also, check out Google Checkout. A friend who is working on a NFP unrelated to ecigs got locked out (& funds frozen) by Paypal for excessive activity shortly after the project launched and he was able to transition to Google without any problems for donations. This was just last week.

 

[kcr]

I'll bet that explains why my order to TW wouldn't go through this afternoon...

ETA: nope--I tried again and it did go through.

 

[grimmer255]

well this sucks......something that really works is now under so much fire I give one to three months and its over....possibly sooner.

 

[DC2]

I'll bet that explains why my order to TW wouldn't go through this afternoon...

Just got my final "stocking up" order in to TW yesterday as well.
I really am a lucky sumkindabastard.

 

[lm921]

paypal,google and all the rest are false security blankets. you can always make a phone call to your credit card company and reverse any transaction just as easy if not easyer than paypal/google. also if you do dispute a clam with a credit card company, it cost the retailer big bucks!
the retailers only use pp/g because of you! the customer, CC are cheaper for the retailer to use for any kind of business unless your sales are lower than 10K week. Screw PP/G and all the rest
Im not mad, i just like getting even

Yes i was once a internet retailer and i got screw more than once by PP/G both.
It got so bad i just got out.

Edit to add, you can get a pre-paid cc at any store

 

[wezzie]

I just had to use my credit card to order supplies with one supplier. This is the second time I tried to order using PayPal and it did not work! There was a yellow background colored message (too ticked to remember exactly what it stated) telling me I could not use it. Stupid goober ..... ignorant manipulative controlling bozos.

That's directed to the PayPal people!!! NOT to the suppliers...I need and love you people.

 

[kcr]

Edit to add, you can get a pre-paid cc at any store

But a few of the suppliers I have used *only* accept PayPal. Or at least, they did...

There was no option for Visa or MasterCard, at all.

Apparently PayPal did some sort of housekeeping today, and it boogered up the site for most of the afternoon. I had tried to make orders from both Eastmall and TW. FInally got the Eastmall order in, but the TW order wouldn't go through--it kept saying "try another method of payment." Well, there was no option.

But after I read this thread I tried again, and it did go through, so for the moment it looks as if you can still order from TW.

 

[ziglepuss]

Hi Guys ( 1st time here! )
Well if e bay own paypal or visa versa I guess it follows, but it does make one wonder what other reasons they may have, might they be involved in the tobacco industry? Does anyone remember when e bay / paypal was cool & hip. By the way is this ban only affecting the USA so far?

 

[Vapinginmyboots]

Not good... NOT GOOD AT ALL! I becha u can use paypal with tobacco purchases online, ..../pipe/hookah purchases online, so on and so forth. WTF is the big deal with paypal and e-cigs? What does paypal have to lose, or does it GAIN somehow monetarily? Logic says it would only lose money. There is no official ban yet, but paypal is all ornory over e-cigs, regardless of the benefits or harm to anyone.

A quick question if i may: can u use paypal linked to a different credit line or checking account for e-cigs? If not, my card is getting CUT UP ASAP! I dont use it for anything but e-cig stuff!