Pbusardos Favorite battery, the LG HG2 3000Mah INR?

[Mr. Miyagi]

Ok.
So here is the deal.
I live in a place where it is ... dificult/ Expensive to get batteries.

I heard about these batteries.

Well, Here is the video



In the description, and in the video from 3:30-6:00~ he talks about the battery, Anyways. My issue, are they INR? Then.. would these... Be different?
because these say that they are Li-Ion, And they have the same code on the front. But at the same time, It wouldnt be the first time that FT is wrong

https://www.fasttech.com/product/2533800-authentic-lg-18650hg2-3-6v-3000mah-rechargeable


Anyways... I wonder if they would be okay to use in a Smox cube 2/ sigelei 150 watt... usually around 60 watts.

 

[MagnusEunson]

In the description, and in the video from 3:30-6:00~ he talks about the battery, Anyways. My issue, are they INR? Then.. would these... Be different?
because these say that they are Li-Ion, And they have the same code on the front. But at the same time, It wouldnt be the first time that FT is wrong

https://www.fasttech.com/product/2533800-authentic-lg-18650hg2-3-6v-3000mah-rechargeable

Anyways... I wonder if they would be okay to use in a Smox cube 2/ sigelei 150 watt... usually around 60 watts.

I'm not sure what you mean by 'be different'? IMR, INR, ICR, .. all are types of lithium ion batteries.

Short answer is 'Yes' guessing you're sub-ohming at .15Ohm - .25Ohm ..

You can use tools like Steam Engine to calculate specifics, headroom, etc. -

http://www.steam-engine.org/batt.asp

You can also refer to Kidney Punchers 18650 tests for some decision making input -

http://www.kidneypuncher.com/18650-battery-tests/

Cheers, -Mags

 

[Mr. Miyagi]

I'm not sure what you mean by 'be different'? IMR, INR, ICR, .. all are types of lithium ion batteries.

Short answer is 'Yes' guessing you're sub-ohming at .15Ohm - .25Ohm ..

You can use tools like Steam Engine to calculate specifics, headroom, etc. -

http://www.steam-engine.org/batt.asp

You can also refer to Kidney Punchers 18650 tests for some decision making input -

http://www.kidneypuncher.com/18650-battery-tests/

Cheers, -Mags

Ohhh.... HAHA I thought an Li -mn was different than a lithium Ion....
Wow... haha... I was driving myself nuts about this. Its odd though on the FT site it says that these are unprotected.....
But apart from that they look good.

yea, Im usually on the high end of that ... 0.2-0.3
sometimes on some other builds, such as my RTA, I go 0.4 dual Claptons.

 

[IMFire3605]

Of many of the Li-ion batteries out there, ICR, is the least safest in our application, they are notorious for going "BOOM" in a thermal runaway. IMR and INR are safer chemistry hybrids, where ICR uses Cobalt in its core, IMR uses Maganese, and INR uses Nickel which are bit more stable and produce more amps. You are going to want to buy name brands that generally produce there own cells, most of these are Sony, Samsung, LG, Panasonic, and Sanyo. AW IMR are a re-wrap company that buy A batch batteries from the previous listed companies and run them through a stringent QC and specifications have to be met.

The LG HG2 3000mah 20amp CDR Cells that Mr. Busardo mentions are excellent cells, I've got 2 atm I use in my 60watts and below devices, in my SVD 2.0 I can get a good day and a half on a charge at higher watts 20watts (maxed on the SVD 2.0), and about 2 days at the 10watt range. The other battery he references I believe is the Samsung 30Q which has about the same specs as the HG2. Protected cells generally do not have the CDR necessary for higher end application, they had a built in protection circuit of about 6amps, that threshold was reached, the circuit stopped electrical flow until the cell and circuit cooled before allowing usage or recharge, I wish they would make these with higher CDR of 20amps or so, would make things a whole lot safer. So for the past couple years we've been using unprotected cells that can deliver higher CDR than an ICR protected cell can, here is a list...

Lowest to highest CDR safer chemistry batteries we can use...

20amps
Samsung 30Q
LG HG2
Samsung 25R
Sony VTC5 (20amp not 30amp)
LG HE2/HE4

30amps
Sony VTC3
Sony VTC4 (not a true 30amp but can sustain 30amps if need be)
LG HB6

If you can purchase batteries from reputable vendors that are authorized resellers
IMRBatteries
Liion Wholesale
Illumination Supply
RTDVapor
Orbtronics

Also check out @Baditude and @Mooch they have excellent blogs on battery safety and battery tests to peruse over.

 

[Boden]

Ok.
So here is the deal.
I live in a place where it is ... dificult/ Expensive to get batteries.

I heard about these batteries.

Well, Here is the video



In the description, and in the video from 3:30-6:00~ he talks about the battery, Anyways. My issue, are they INR? Then.. would these... Be different?
because these say that they are Li-Ion, And they have the same code on the front. But at the same time, It wouldnt be the first time that FT is wrong

https://www.fasttech.com/product/2533800-authentic-lg-18650hg2-3-6v-3000mah-rechargeable


Anyways... I wonder if they would be okay to use in a Smox cube 2/ sigelei 150 watt... usually around 60 watts.

If they are authentic they should be good for 48W per battery at 15 amps for long term use or for a shorter battery life 64 watts per battery at 20 amps.

 

[zapped]

Meh need to offer it in button top as well.

 

[Mr. Miyagi]

I have looked in to Baditudes blogs... when I was in to Unregulated mods. haha. It was suggested before I got in to it.

There are lots of Regulations with battery shipments, internationally, so it is difficult to get batteries.

 

[drysprocket]

If you want a sick price, I think these are them- Note currently out of stock but you can email when back: http://www.ecig.com/lg-hg2-18650-20a-3000mah.html

I'm pretty battery-dumb, so someone check me if I'm off. I've had good luck with these guys lately....dirt cheap stuff and they tell me everything is authentic.

Edit: And actually looks like 101vape has them even cheaper: 2pack for under 10 bucks with code: Blowout (battery sale)

 

[Mooch]

Ok.
So here is the deal.
I live in a place where it is ... dificult/ Expensive to get batteries.

I heard about these batteries.

Well, Here is the video



In the description, and in the video from 3:30-6:00~ he talks about the battery, Anyways. My issue, are they INR? Then.. would these... Be different?
because these say that they are Li-Ion, And they have the same code on the front. But at the same time, It wouldnt be the first time that FT is wrong

https://www.fasttech.com/product/2533800-authentic-lg-18650hg2-3-6v-3000mah-rechargeable


Anyways... I wonder if they would be okay to use in a Smox cube 2/ sigelei 150 watt... usually around 60 watts.

The HG2 is INR chemistry but that's ok. Both INR and IMR chemistry batteries are the safer of the chemistries in vaping batteries. ICR is easier to get into trouble with and reacts a lot more violently if you go past a certain temperature. In my opinion, ICR is best avoided for most vapers unless you are comfortable with its characteristics and know enough about your mod, ohm's law, and battery safety.

The HG2 is a fantastic battery, delivering about 15% more run time at 20A (down to 3.2V) than the Samsung 25R. You can use them at up to about 60W each but less wattage = less heat = longer time before needing to replace them.

 

[Mooch]

Ohhh.... HAHA I thought an Li -mn was different than a lithium Ion....
Wow... haha... I was driving myself nuts about this. Its odd though on the FT site it says that these are unprotected.....
But apart from that they look good.

yea, Im usually on the high end of that ... 0.2-0.3
sometimes on some other builds, such as my RTA, I go 0.4 dual Claptons.

Unprotected batteries are the norm for vaping. All of the batteries that we use, or should use (in my opinion), are unprotected. The circuitry involved would just be too large in order to reliably handle the higher current levels that vapers draw.