Percentage query

[genoxy]

Not sure if this is the case for all juice suppliers but I was curious if you get 10ml 100% PG juice then you would expect all of that mixture to be flavoured.

In the same way if you order directly say an 10ml 80%pg 20%vg mix would the 8ml pg be flavoured AND the 20%vg also be flavoured? If not they could just supply 8ml of flavoured and the other 2ml would not have to be and hence the price should only be 80% of the 100%pg mixture... Hope this makes sense...

Hoping to find out which case is true?

 

[genoxy]

also I guess if I was to buy the 100% pg one and add my own unflavoured PG/VG nicotine then would that make the flavour less intense?

 

[Randy C]

I'm not exactly sure what you're asking, but I'll take a shot at it...

Purchased juice is made up of VG, PG (or any combination thereof), nicotine (optional), and flavoring.

When you purchase juice, at any pg/vg ratio, flavoring is added to the entire bottle, so essentially the vendor flavors all of the components as "one"

Note- in case you are trying to modify:

Pg and VG have no flavor. Trying to cut your existing juice with pg/vg will in fact decrease the flavor to the extent that the juice is diluted. The nicotine will also be decreased.

Does this help?

 

[genoxy]

I'm not exactly sure what you're asking, but I'll take a shot at it...

Purchased juice is made up of VG, PG (or any combination thereof), nicotine (optional), and flavoring.

When you purchase juice, at any pg/vg ratio, flavoring is added to the entire bottle, so essentially the vendor flavors all of the components as "one"

Note- in case you are trying to modify:

Pg and VG have no flavor. Trying to cut your existing juice with pg/vg will in fact decrease the flavor to the extent that the juice is diluted. The nicotine will also be decreased.

Does this help?

Ok this makes more sense now, so if I get a flavour in 80PG/20VG then both the PG and VG elements of the whole mixture will have the flavouring through it.

Its not just 100%PG diluted down with VG unless I decide to do that myself, with a doubler though I can effectively mix 50% of the flavoured solution with anything I want to get double the amount I started with and that shouldn't affect the flavour.

F@#% this is confusing... gonna have a vape and relax...

 

[Kopfstimmen]

What?
I think I see what you're getting at here, but I'm not absolutely sure. What Randy C said, if you order 80/20, it's fully flavored. (Assuming you didn't buy unflavored, of course. I'm not sure where you can get that, but I'm sure you can.)
You can order double flavor and double nic, and add PG and/or VG to bring it to the flavor and strength you want. I've done this. It is cheaper, but to me it wasn't worth the hassle.
Hope this helps, too.

 

[genoxy]

I think I'm confusing myself... its all good haha

 

[Randy C]

There is no dumb question, so stick with it until you get the answer you need. Your a brand new vapor; we all understand that- we've all been there!

Let me just add this:

The following applies to buying pre-made juice- The % of VG/PG of a juice describes it's components. The % has NOTHING to do with flavor. The reason vendors offer different ratios is because some people prefer juice made with more of VG, some prefer juice made with more PG. VG produces clouds of vapor, but provides less throat hit, while PG provides good throat hit, with less vapor. Vendors offer juices of different ratios to fit their customers needs.

Now, the following only comes into play if you were to make your own juice... some companies offer DIY, or do-it-yourself components, as some people prefer to make home-hade juice. So you can buy PURE VG or PG - both are essentially tasteless. One would typically mix VG/PG to nicotine in order to come up with the desired base, then add flavoring to their liking.

Lastly...some people buy pre-made juice and try to dilute it to get more. They will add either PG or VG to accomplish this. But, remember... VG & PG have no flavor, so when these are added to juice, both the nicotine level and flavor falls off.

Does this help?

 

[Kopfstimmen]

I would like to add one caveat to what Randy C said: I have not tested with different percentages, but I have heard numerous times that PG mutes the flavor less than VG does. As I said, I have not tested this, and not having a strong sense of taste, I would probably not really notice, but I have heard it said many times. Therefore, take this with a grain of salt.

 

[genoxy]

Thanks guys...

My main query is because I have been buying doublers in 100% PG, concentrated flavour mixtures so 10ml makes 20ml, can make more or less but the flavour will be stronger or weaker. not recommended to make more than double, there are also triplers but I haven't bought those.

I had been considering buying 80PG/20VG doublers because thats the combination I like to vape but I was worried the 20% VG they add would be unflavoured so really I'd be paying 100% price but only getting 80% of flavoured PG.

Hope this helps...

 

[akatina]

Thanks guys...

My main query is because I have been buying doublers in 100% PG, concentrated flavour mixtures so 10ml makes 20ml, can make more or less but the flavour will be stronger or weaker. not recommended to make more than double, there are also triplers but I haven't bought those.

I had been considering buying 80PG/20VG doublers because thats the combination I like to vape but I was worried the 20% VG they add would be unflavoured so really I'd be paying 100% price but only getting 80% of flavoured PG.

Hope this helps...

In simple terms, the PG/VG is a base to which flavors are added. If you buy 100% PG, they take that base and then add X amount of flavor. If you buy 80PG/20VG, they take that base and then add X amount of flavor.

In reality, the 80/20 blend may require more or less flavoring and a good manufacturer will adjust the flavoring so that 100%PG will taste the same as 80/20.

 

[genoxy]

Awesome, that makes more sense, thanks!