PG allergies or something else?

[Desmond Leonard]

OK.
So basically I kind of just started vaping, and it's not going so smoothly as I thought. I am suspecting I might be kind of sensitive to PG, and I'll tell you why.
My vaporizer is a Cool Fire 1, even though it's used ( I bought it from my cousin ), It worked very well in the beginning.

Here's my attempt to explain how it feels vaping right now:

So I just changed my coil to a brand new one, made sure it was hydrated, charged the battery fully, just cleaned the entire device, let it dry, and now its time to vape. The e-juice is PG based, and is bought at a local tobacco store nearby. When I hold the button and draw in, it kind of feels like the vapor is "scratching" my throat(in other words, not pleasant). When I smell the vaporizer and e-juice it smells great, but I cant really get any of the taste in my mouth. It kind of tastes weird and just hurts.. (however the vapor is good?!) Anyways since I assume I'm stupid I continue with the mindset of "It might go away if I keep vaping, maybe the coil has to hydrate a bit". Yet after a while, my throat really is irritated, and my tongue feels as if I've burnt it.

I'm kind of interested in what components of the vaporizer that actually could be faulty right now!
I assume the coil could be "burnt?" (however I have changed the coil thrice and no result)
Dirty or damaged tank or something? I've cleaned it big time, no result.
Old battery or "heater(whatever that part is called"? I don't think this is it.. (and how the hell do I check this?)
E-juice doesn't fit me? Is there a way to check if VG works better than PG? Where I live, VG bottles aren't available, so I'll have to order it, and it sucks to order it online if it wont help(and I might as well order the other parts if they are what's faulty) !


Note, that when I bought the Vaporizer from my cousin, he gave me juice with it( I assume VG based ) and it worked fine. I'm just curious as to if it could be anything else but PG sensitivity, because when I've read on the internet about PG sensitivity people seem to not be able to vape PG at all. I can vape, It's just that it's unpleasant and something just feels wrong.

Random specs: Coils: Iclear 30b COIL HEAD - 1.5 Ohm
Battery: IMR 18350 3.7V LI-MN
Automizer/Tank: iClear 30b vW/vv

Thaaanks!

Leonard.

 

[Ou2mame]

Usually, there is a pg/vg ratio, 50/50 is the most common. If it's pure pg, thats going to be harsh. Also the higher nic content will create a harsher hit too. I found that anything over 18 in a clearomizer was too harsh, and anything over 6mg subohming is too harsh. If you want to try vg, you can buy vg at any drug store and give it a shot. Make sure that it's usp grade vg derived from vegetable oil. If you're vaping 100% pg, mix it half and half in the tank and see if that smooths it out. Vg is smooth, pg is throat hit. Or order some cheap bottles of different nic and vg ratio from ec blend they are 2.50 a piece for 5ml trials.

 

[Desmond Leonard]

Usually, there is a pg/vg ratio, 50/50 is the most common. If it's pure pg, thats going to be harsh. Also the higher nic content will create a harsher hit too. I found that anything over 18 in a clearomizer was too harsh, and anything over 6mg subohming is too harsh. If you want to try vg, you can buy vg at any drug store and give it a shot. Make sure that it's usp grade vg derived from vegetable oil. If you're vaping 100% pg, mix it half and half in the tank and see if that smooths it out. Vg is smooth, pg is throat hit. Or order some cheap bottles of different nic and vg ratio from ec blend they are 2.50 a piece for 5ml trials.

I guess it's the PG causing these problems, thanks! Well, I live in Sweden, so finding VG e-juice in stores here is like finding someone handing out free money, I was just able to find e-juice in the stores that is PG based, and I don't know how it's mixed.. the package of the E-juice says : Contentropylene Glycol, Glycerol, Water, Italian Flavors

 

[Ou2mame]

Glycerol is vg, but since it doesn't say how much. What is the nicotine content?

I don't know what the drug store situation is like there, but vg here is sold in the skin care isle, and is very cheap only a few bucks for a container of it.

 

[Desmond Leonard]

Glycerol is vg, but since it doesn't say how much. What is the nicotine content?

I don't know what the drug store situation is like there, but vg here is sold in the skin care isle, and is very cheap only a few bucks for a container of it.

nicotine is 12 mg/ml

 

[Baditude]

You may need to find an online vendor that sells e-liquid with a higher vg base. I'm in the US, so I can't help you with recommendations. Here in the states, there are many manufacturers who allow you to custom mix their flavors to whatever Pg/Vg ratio you desire.

 

[Ou2mame]

I think this bottle was like 4 dollars. Is your juice a brand name? Maybe you could look it up on their website and see if they have any info. It's more rare but it could also be an ingredient in the flavoring. My guess is you're sensitive to pg, so I would try mixing vg into it or find another shop with a better selection.

 

[djsvapour]

I was sensitive to vapor from day one. Even the lowest power kit gave me problems.

The coolfire 1 sets the vape to 8.5 watts (i.i.r.c.) and that is where I got to towards the end of my first year of vaping.

Am I still sensitive to vapor? I'm not sure. Did I think it was worth spending time and money messing around with my liquids? No.

I just vaped and took it one day at a time... I tend to stick around 15 watts but have vaped 100% VG at 99 watts.... so VG is clearly far less irritating to me.

 

[GlacierBabe]

OK.
So basically I kind of just started vaping, and it's not going so smoothly as I thought. I am suspecting I might be kind of sensitive to PG, and I'll tell you why.
My vaporizer is a Cool Fire 1, even though it's used ( I bought it from my cousin ), It worked very well in the beginning.

Here's my attempt to explain how it feels vaping right now:

So I just changed my coil to a brand new one, made sure it was hydrated, charged the battery fully, just cleaned the entire device, let it dry, and now its time to vape. The e-juice is PG based, and is bought at a local tobacco store nearby. When I hold the button and draw in, it kind of feels like the vapor is "scratching" my throat(in other words, not pleasant). When I smell the vaporizer and e-juice it smells great, but I cant really get any of the taste in my mouth. It kind of tastes weird and just hurts.. (however the vapor is good?!) Anyways since I assume I'm stupid I continue with the mindset of "It might go away if I keep vaping, maybe the coil has to hydrate a bit". Yet after a while, my throat really is irritated, and my tongue feels as if I've burnt it.

I'm kind of interested in what components of the vaporizer that actually could be faulty right now!
I assume the coil could be "burnt?" (however I have changed the coil thrice and no result)
Dirty or damaged tank or something? I've cleaned it big time, no result.
Old battery or "heater(whatever that part is called"? I don't think this is it.. (and how the hell do I check this?)
E-juice doesn't fit me? Is there a way to check if VG works better than PG? Where I live, VG bottles aren't available, so I'll have to order it, and it sucks to order it online if it wont help(and I might as well order the other parts if they are what's faulty) !


Note, that when I bought the Vaporizer from my cousin, he gave me juice with it( I assume VG based ) and it worked fine. I'm just curious as to if it could be anything else but PG sensitivity, because when I've read on the internet about PG sensitivity people seem to not be able to vape PG at all. I can vape, It's just that it's unpleasant and something just feels wrong.

Random specs: Coils: Iclear 30b COIL HEAD - 1.5 Ohm
Battery: IMR 18350 3.7V LI-MN
Automizer/Tank: iClear 30b vW/vv

Thaaanks!

Leonard.

There are many people whose lungs can't handle a high load of PG. I am one of them. I just ordered my new and first coolfire so I can't speak to sub ohm yet, but in my reg carts and cartos I get my juice mixed at 60% VG and 40% PG with 12 nic. PG gives your throat hit and VG gives the clouds of vapor. It sounds like your lungs are sensitive to PG. I would try to get juice that will let you have a 40% or lower PG ratio. If you still have the problem with a low PG ratio, you might be allergic. You can get juice in a 100% VG base. I'm in the US and over here there are many companies that allow you to choose your PG/VG ratios. Check out the vendor forums or the e-juice forums here. There is lots of information there that can help you determine what would be best for you. Best of luck.

 

[iKilligan]

I had the same problem when I first started. It went away after a few weeks. Be careful though. Maybe try different brand of juice. Good luck.

 

[Desmond Leonard]

Thanks for all the answers folks! I tried mixing the E-juice with 12 ml Nicotine with nicotine free e-juice, and the vapor was much more pleasant. I'ts obvious my problems are related to nicotine/PG. I'll be getting VG juice soon!