PG and cats

[Tor]

Propylene glycol - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

However, propylene glycol may be toxic to cats in ways not seen in other animals. The U.S. Food and Drug Administration has determined that its presence in or on cat food has not been shown by adequate scientific data to be safe for use. Any such use is considered an adulteration of the cat food and a violation of the Federal Food, Drug, and Cosmetic Act.

Anyone knows if this applies to PG vapor as well? Any one here that have cats that can share some experiences?

 

[tehki]

I'm curious to see what kind of replies this gets. I don't know much but I do have a cat and I can say that the vapor is much less offensive to my cat than cigarette smoke. He would run off every time I lit a smoke up around him, but he the vapor doesn't bother him at all he will stay right next to it and watch it. So I sure hope it's not toxic for him!!!

 

[bjannr]

I haven't noticed any change in my two cat's behavior. However none of my horses will tolerate the vapor when I am standing at their side. It seems to bother them more than the regular smoke did.

 

[keelalagirl55]

Best bet...call your vet......

 

[Tor]

I don't have cats myself (unfortunately, I love cats), but a friend does. I don't want to expose her cat to something that could be dangerous for it when visiting. That was the reason for asking.

 

[keelalagirl55]

I don't have cats myself (unfortunately, I love cats), but a friend does. I don't want to expose her cat to something that could be dangerous for it when visiting. That was the reason for asking.

give me a bit.....I'll call mine and let you know what they say....

 

[tybin]

we had a discussion about this. i use vg myself but supposedly some vets say just don't blow the vapor directly in the cats face.

 

[keelalagirl55]

Okay...I just heard back from my vets office...according to 2 vets....they found nothing in their books or the online database avail for veterinarians about pg and it being toxic to cats (in any form..vapor, liquid, etc)......

The way I see it....consider the source...FDA....they rarely know their .... from a hole in the wall....if anyone has had a different response from their vet, I'd love to hear it. I don't blow it in my cats faces....they don't like just air blown in their face, so I just don't do it. From my understanding anyway, upon exhale it is no longer pg but water vapor (hence the body's dehydration from vapin).

 

[Tor]

Wow, thanks for the effort Keelala. And to the rest of you too for the answers.

 

[Natalia]

For the last six months, my two elderly cats have been laying on/or right next to me about 4 hours each evening. Evenings are when I usually chain vape. Other than them not liking certain smells (Snickerdoodle), there have been no problems. I do blow the vapor away from them, and I also clean out their water bowls more often for a "just in case".

 

[dinky]

havent had any problems here. i have 4 cats and bring in hurt and sick animals till they are ready to be adopted. its a constant turn over here. so far none of the cats have shown any signs of having a problem with pg. the vet that sees the sick hasn tmade any comments to me and i vape openly when im there.

could this be a ploy by the fda to make animal lovers run from e cgis.... im sorry that may sound paranoid but i cant say that i trust them much. lol

 

[tybin]

no...not a ploy. it was a study done( i think not in the usa) but so far some vets have said cats will probably not get heinz body enemia from just vaping around cats. they have recommended you just don't blow it in their faces.

here's some info: http://www.vet.uga.edu/vpp/clerk/tarigo/index.php

 

[ZoSo15]

I'm curious to see what kind of replies this gets. I don't know much but I do have a cat and I can say that the vapor is much less offensive to my cat than cigarette smoke. He would run off every time I lit a smoke up around him, but he the vapor doesn't bother him at all he will stay right next to it and watch it. So I sure hope it's not toxic for him!!!

Same here. 4 cats and the one that always hangs out with me doesn't mind it at all. I had heard about their problem with pg when I first started vaping so I never blow it in their face, but sometimes the air current in the room will push it near them.

 

[Kams Cats]

interesting study. I also noticed they mentioned d-L methionine which is commonly prescribed to cats with urinary tract problems. I have some for one of my cats. Will have to make sure he doesn't get too much since he loves it.

I have a pg/vg mix and some vg juices. I tend to use the vg juices at home when I am around the cats more. Again, like the others I don't blow it in their faces.

It's still better then second hand smoke is linked to certain cancers in cats.

 

[Turnkeys]

I'm curious to see what kind of replies this gets. I don't know much but I do have a cat and I can say that the vapor is much less offensive to my cat than cigarette smoke. He would run off every time I lit a smoke up around him, but he the vapor doesn't bother him at all he will stay right next to it and watch it. So I sure hope it's not toxic for him!!!

None of my cats liked us smoking either. But one was SO offended, (nicely put) that he'd streak off my lap, often to my great pain, whenever I even picked up the pack or lighter. Now I might get a look once in a while, but most are simply fascinated by the plume of vapor.

As for their safety, there're several posts (you'll have to search the forum) about PG safety and long term exposure. They were animal tests with liquid PG and vaporized. If I'm remembering right there were no ill effects noted, and the added bonus of vaporized PG acting as a bactericide. I know I haven't had even the slightest cold this winter. My boss has brought a couple nasty ones to work, and my girlfriend's brats have brought several home as well. YMMV.

Vape on!

 

[Natalia]

Hi all. I just took my 19 yr old kitty to the vet yesterday. She's been in kidney failure for two years, but is doing amazingly well, but that's another story. Anyway, I asked him last time I was there about PG and cats and vaping and he looked into it.

PG is toxic to cats IF they walk through it and lick their paws or if they drink it. He DOES NOT THINK the vapor contains enough PG to do any damage as long as it's not blown in their faces, or directly on their food and water. I've been vaping for over 7mths with her on my lap, (I blow the vaper to the side away from her), and the vet says it has not had any adverse effect on her.

So, don't blow in kitties faces, water, or food. Common sense prevails . Your vet may feel/find differently, so I would ask.

 

[Who_Wants_To_Know]

My cat would have something to say if I vaped it his face. Nothing pleasant either..

The only effect of my cat is he spends more time around me because I do not smell as bad, but he also gives me strange looks because I don't have to go outside for a smoke any more. Like he expects me to give him that 5 minutes every hour or something.

I have not noticed signs of ill health or anything like that. He even sneezes less(vet says it was never a problem before but less is good I say.)

 

[quovadis]

Maybe the horses were so used to smelling your real cigarette, that they were disappointed by the lack of smell from your ecig?!

 

[nik0ness]

i have 5 cats and 2 kittens.. all of which are in love..no wait they are ADDICTED to meh e cig.. the minute i start puffing they come running into the room to sniff it.. i vape just vg right now but i am planning on mixing some pg/vg so i wonder if they will still act the same way... either way thankies for the info i will try not to vape in their faces but chances are i will have to push them off of meh rofl!

 

[LadyMaMa]

I'm a little late to this discussion, but here goes.

I have been vaping for two-and-a half years with several older cats in residence. I have used a high 36mg PG-only liquid almost exclusively during that time. I don't hold my cats in my lap while vaping, but they usually are in the same room with me.

I take my cats to the vet for regular checkups, including bloodwork once a year. All of them are on a special diet because of past urinary tract infections. Water is always available to them and is changed twice a day. Neither I nor their vet have noted the development of any physical ailments or behavorial problems since I began vaping. (My one female cat strikes terror in the hearts of my male cats and they all scatter when she enters a room, but that's a separate issue.)

I do keep very close tabs on my PV devices and liquids, particularly the accessories--tips, bottles, caps, etc.--because of the many small parts that are a potential choking hazard.

Susan