PG content of flavorings?

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Road King

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Is it known how much PG is carried by the flavors we use by brand? I ask because my first DIY was mainly TFA flavored (did have one FW flavor in it though) 70VG/30PG & was WAY thicker then my second recipe, which was an LA-flavored recipe & was made at 75VG/25PG & seems really thin. I'm just wondering if LA flavorings are higher in PG than TFA or not?
 

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@Road King - not enough info there. How much (percentage wise) flavoring did you use in each mix? Just the total flavoring percentage for each? That might be the difference you are having. o_O Usually unless it says differently if the flavoring is in PG it is in all PG. ;)
 

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@Road King - not enough info there. How much (percentage wise) flavoring did you use in each mix? Just the total flavoring percentage for each? That might be the difference you are having. o_O Usually unless it says differently if the flavoring is in PG it is in all PG. ;)
In the 90 ml batch I made (that turned out really thin), I used 7% of cola & 7% of cherry flavors. This amounted to 7.2 ml of each. I also used 5.3 ml of PG, 59 ml of VG & 11.25 ml of my nicotine (24mg strength) per the ejuicemeup calculator. My nicotine is 75PG/25PG, but I also had that entered in the calculator. I had entered a desired final ratio of 75VG/25PG & these are the ratios it directed me to use. When I did a supposedly 70VG/30PG recipe earlier, it came out thicker then most of the 80/20's I buy commercially. I had also used the same calculator to make that one.

Could be that some of the flavorings contained alcohol. If a flavoring is said to be PG based it is generally considered to calculate as total PG. In other words :30% flavoring would make a 70/30pg blend with no extra PG added.
I figured as much. in fact on the calculator, I let it assume that the flavors were 100% PG, assuming that if I was wrong, my juice would be a little thicker than I wanted, but I wouldn't have cared about that. I'd rather have it thicker than thinner. I assumed only adding 5 ml of PG to a 90 ml batch (like the calculator instructed) there was no way it would be so thin, but it was. During my second tank of the second batch (this thinner one) it flooded my coil & came running out the AFC on my mod last night. I finally just took everything apart, cleaned it all & left it out all night to make sure my tank & base were completely dry this morning before reassembling & filling with a commercial 70/30 juice.
 

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That's really odd that the difference is so great. I have found that there can be a great deal of difference in the viscosity of VG from different manufactures. Personally I prefer essential depot's VG. Is it possible that a mistake was made?
Both batches were made with the same VG & PG. I got it at MFS & now I'm at work & don't recall the brand. But I am so thorough when I do stuff like this, I mean I paid very close attention to how much of what I was adding I don't know how I could have made a mistake, but yes, it's always possible.

My plan now is to come back to the thin batch in a week, get my recipe back in front of me & try to make another half-batch (45 ml) with a thicker viscosity & mix them together, rather than throw it out. What do you think?
 

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When I mix my DIY e-Liquids I make sure to adjust the PG/VG/Water/Vodka/PGA percentages as the affects the end product. Overlooking that minor calculation can result in thicker or thinner end product. Not a Mixing Master here but sharing what I have learned so far. Hope it is of use to one person then my post has value!
 

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When I mix my DIY e-Liquids I make sure to adjust the PG/VG/Water/Vodka/PGA percentages as the affects the end product. Overlooking that minor calculation can result in thicker or thinner end product.

I'm curious about the above statements. I understand that it's necessary for sure in the calculator...to adjust the PG/VG percentages in the Nic Base you're starting with, and adjusting the PG/VG percentages that you want to be in your end product. That I definitely get and agree with.

But, what are you making sure to adjust in the section that says Water/Vodka/PGA? That's for noting "The Percentage of Diluting Liquid you want" in your final product. Are you really adding those liquids sometimes to your DIY recipes to dilute them? That field doesn't have anything to do with what's already IN the flavorings you use.
 

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I guess it does make it wick better if the mix is to thick it wont wick well so it does need to be thinned. But I think the point was entirely missed as to why those calculations are really there. Anyone want to venture a guess?

JCinFLA I think you already know so let someone else have a try at this.
 

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The calculator I use allows you to adjust the flavorings VG/PG content. Which is convenient because many of my flavors are not PG.

Yes most of the calculators have this adjustment but your missing the point as to why these calculations are really important. The reason for compensating for added water, VG/PG flavoring or alcohol is to keep the NIC content at your preferred vaping level.
 
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