PG versus VG

[DC2]

I hate starting a new thread if there is already one handy, but I haven't seen one and I already tried to search but "VG" and "PG" are too short to search for so the search does not work.

If anyone knows a good thread for this topic, please feel free to point me there.


I have been hearing that VG creates more vapor and less throat hit.
Since I'm not really into the throat hit, and would always like more vapor, it sounds good.

But I am also hearing that VG is thicker (more viscous) and that makes me worried about how well it will wick. I already have enough trouble with getting juice wicking up to the top in a timely manner, although I am going to try that straw modification once I find a suitable straw.

I like the Johnson Creek juices, and notice they have both PG and VG versions.
Has anyone ever tried both and can offer comparisons?

Any thoughts in general on the question of PG vs VG liquids?

Thanks!
DC2

 

[Surf Monkey]

You have the differences pretty much dialed. I've found that a great way to get the best of both worlds... is to use both. I like to mix ECOpure VG with various other PG flavors. Great vapor, taste and throat hit.

My vape of choice is pure VG, though. I think it gives a reasonable throat hit and it doesn't dry my system out like PG does. It's just too bad that more retailers don't sell VG versions of their products.

 

[DC2]

You have the differences pretty much dialed. I've found that a great way to get the best of both worlds... is to use both. I like to mix ECOpure VG with various other PG flavors. Great vapor, taste and throat hit.

My vape of choice is pure VG, though. I think it gives a reasonable throat hit and it doesn't dry my system out like PG does. It's just too bad that more retailers don't sell VG versions of their products.

Do you notice that it does not wick as well as the PG does?

 

[magnolia]

You have the differences pretty much dialed. I've found that a great way to get the best of both worlds... is to use both. I like to mix ECOpure VG with various other PG flavors. Great vapor, taste and throat hit.

My vape of choice is pure VG, though. I think it gives a reasonable throat hit and it doesn't dry my system out like PG does. It's just too bad that more retailers don't sell VG versions of their products.

I agree, I think it's better to use a little of both. I tried using just vg and it seemed too thick, but the pg when I tried just using that & the mix seemed too thin. So I blended them and it worked great, so now I use a mix of both to get the right consistency.

 

[CardinalWinds]

I vape JC juice exclusively now, and while I haven't tried the VG versions, I do know that JC's PG products tend to be a bit thinner than other PG juices I've tried, and hence they do, in my opinion, wick much better.

 

[DC2]

Well, I love that NuVape has 3ml samplers, and that they come with a wonderful (so I hear) little glass dropper bottle if you pay .50 more. So I ordered a couple of flavors I've been wanting to try (cola, watermelon, coconut) in both the PG and the VG variety. Worst comes to worst, I will have six of those wonderful (so I hear) little 3ml dropper bottles and get to try some flavors that Johnson Creek doesn't offer, without the cost of buying larger bottles.

Hopefully it will give me a good direct comparison of PG versus VG juices.
Unless of course it all depends on the manufacturer, and then I am back to square one.

But I'll still have those wonderful (so I hear) little dropper bottles!!

 

[JohnR]

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[JohnR]

I've got JC's: (all full strength)

Original Tobacco - PG and VG
Vanilla - PG
Arctic Mint - VG

The P/VG differences aren't clear to me as yet. The VG seems "milder" but I haven't noticed a dramatic increase or decrease in vapor. Still testing them out.

I'm leaning towards working on my own batch(es) and finding the exact strength in the VG that I like. It might be cheaper in the long run. I was an ultra light smoker so the margins aren't critical for me on the lower end of strength. If that makes sense.

 

[Jim Davis]

Do you notice that it does not wick as well as the PG does?

Howdy Deadcat;

I'm researching a few things, and here's what I found so far. And this is only my opinion.

Since the VG is thicker, it takes more time to wick. When using devices with higher voltages, the juice tends to be used at a higher rate, and the VG has a harder time keeping up.

I'm coming to the conclusion, that the higher the voltage, the thinner the juice should be.

VG wicks excellent with lower voltages.

Cheers;
jd

 

[DC2]

I'm coming to the conclusion, that the higher the voltage, the thinner the juice should be.

As a former physics minor, this make perfect sense to me.

I am more than ready for my direct tests of PG vs VG juice.
I hope it comes sooner rather than later.

 

[manc]

Well, I love that NuVape has 3ml samplers, and that they come with a wonderful (so I hear) little glass dropper bottle if you pay .50 more. So I ordered a couple of flavors I've been wanting to try (cola, watermelon, coconut) in both the PG and the VG variety. Worst comes to worst, I will have six of those wonderful (so I hear) little 3ml dropper bottles and get to try some flavors that Johnson Creek doesn't offer, without the cost of buying larger bottles.

Hopefully it will give me a good direct comparison of PG versus VG juices.
Unless of course it all depends on the manufacturer, and then I am back to square one.

But I'll still have those wonderful (so I hear) little dropper bottles!!

I've ordered from NuVape, and really like getting 3ml samples. I'm assuming you ordered the PG and Non-PG. Just wanted to let you know that Non-PG is not VG. It is actually PEG. Check out their FAQ page: Nuvape E-Cig Refill Juice - FAQ
Sorry, I know you were hoping to compare VG with PG. At least you'll have some wonderful little dropper bottles.

 

[DC2]

I've ordered from NuVape, and really like getting 3ml samples. I'm assuming you ordered the PG and Non-PG. Just wanted to let you know that Non-PG is not VG. It is actually PEG. Check out their FAQ page: Nuvape E-Cig Refill Juice - FAQ
Sorry, I know you were hoping to compare VG with PG. At least you'll have some wonderful little dropper bottles.

Damn mother-***ing son of a ***** snapper headed bat turds!!!

Well, at least I'm gonna have my 3ml sample bottles with fabulous droppers.
And there I was thinking that I was getting myself ahead of the curve.


I guess my PG vs VG experiments will require more work.
This really sucks, as I don't need any PEG stuff for any reason that I can currently fathom.

 

[HopingToQuit]

I've ordered from Nuvape, and really like getting 3ml samples. I'm assuming you ordered the PG and Non-PG. Just wanted to let you know that Non-PG is not VG. It is actually PEG. Check out their FAQ page:
Sorry, I know you were hoping to compare VG with PG. At least you'll have some wonderful little dropper bottles.

I ordered some of those nuvape samplers for my wife and then went to Walmart and got some glycerin (VG). I cut here 18ml juices with 25% pure glycerin and she actually prefers the taste and says the vape is much better than the straight pg juice. She also says its just a bit sweeter too. We are doing this to gradualy drop her nicotine intake to hopefully 0ml over a few months. This stretches here supplies of e juice and saves a little $ too.

 

[maryjo]

Damn mother-***ing son of a ***** snapper headed bat turds!!!

Well, at least I'm gonna have my 3ml sample bottles with fabulous droppers.
And there I was thinking that I was getting myself ahead of the curve.


I guess my PG vs VG experiments will require more work.
This really sucks, as I don't need any PEG stuff for any reason that I can currently fathom.

I ordered several of the sampler bottles (both glass and plastic) and most of them had such a perfumy smell and taste that I could not vap them. I ended up pouring out the juice and washing the bottles for reuse.

 

[MissVapor]

I have recently started using straight VG (70%) and Vodka (20%) and 15 drops of flavor for a 3ML bottle. (I don't use nicotine, you can substitute the vodka w/your nicotine juice) and it has been coming out perfect! No clogging, and nice and smooth w/great taste.

 

[JustDucky]

I bought my VG from the health food store (16 oz = 473 ml @ $8.99) Of course it's 0mg strength, but I use it to cut my 36mg e-liquids. I've found that mixing 6 ml of VG with 1 ml of water makes it very similar in viscosity PG juice and it vapes quite well.

 

[Rexa]

Howdy Deadcat;

I'm researching a few things, and here's what I found so far. And this is only my opinion.

Since the VG is thicker, it takes more time to wick. When using devices with higher voltages, the juice tends to be used at a higher rate, and the VG has a harder time keeping up.

I'm coming to the conclusion, that the higher the voltage, the thinner the juice should be.

VG wicks excellent with lower voltages.

Cheers;
jd

VG sucks with high voltages. That's my opinion/conclusion/whatever. After trying to use it with my Screwdriver and jantystick (manual), I became miserably frustrated. I can't describe it too well, but it leaves a miserable taste behind and actually doesn't vape well. I tried all of JC juices, tried two VG juices I had from eliquidplanet, and it amassed to the same thing. Had to clean all my atomizers out then use some fresh PG juice and everything went back to normal. At first, I thought my atomizers were busted because of this weird taste I was getting but I guess VG being fried so quickly might change it's properties. These were the same juices I used on some generic passthroughs and cooler running devices where the taste and functionality were not compromised at all.

 

[Surf Monkey]

I thought the SD and the Janty Stick were both 3.7v devices.

 

[Erised]

I have recently started using straight VG (70%) and Vodka (20%) and 15 drops of flavor for a 3ML bottle. (I don't use nicotine, you can substitute the vodka w/your nicotine juice) and it has been coming out perfect! No clogging, and nice and smooth w/great taste.

Can you describe the flavor this puts out?

I tried vaping a mixture of half 24mg Coffee with half VG yesterday and it tasted like I was vaping straight corn syrup -- which absolutely disgusted me. I am trying to find something that will cut down the sweet taste of the VG.


Erised

 

[nubee]

I've noticed much the same thing as already posted here. I've gone to 3-1 mix of Marb(PG) and JC(VG). Seems to be "best of both worlds" for me though it is a bit drying on the system.