Pharmaceutical companies announced they were developing an 'ecig' last year

[neednfewer]

here is a little something I came across and I am not sure who else may have seen it.... this is worth noting! A smoking cessation conference little less than a year ago had a blurb about a possible product from pharmaceuticals: "A new nicotine alternative delivery system may soon be on the market. Researchers combined nicotine with pyruvic acid to create a vapour that could be inhaled into the lungs. "We wanted to replicate the experience of smoking without incurring the dangers associated with cigarettes, and we wanted to do so more effectively than the nicotine replacement therapies currently on the market," said Jed Rose, Ph.D., director of the Duke Center for Nicotine and Smoking Cessation Research where the technology is being developed."

the link: CONFERENCE ON 5TH ANNUAL SMOKING CESSATION - BUSINESS

is it any wonder there is so much resistance to ecigarettes..... is anyone on this forum aware of this?

This means that pharmaceutical companies were going to introduce their own FDA approved ecigarette.

 

[Animeguy]

Interesting

 

[GitMoe]

Good find. Very interesting... There are always things happening in back rooms when big pharma and big tobacco are involved. Never be surprised by what they are up to...

 

[MoonRose]

Well there's our confirmation of exactly why the FDA has been fighting so hard to get e-cigs under their drug delivery device heading. That way they can ban them and then approve only the pharmaceutical version for legal use at a much higher cost of course.

 

[JustJulie]

Good find . . . this was discussed last year, and it was an interesting discussion . . . interesting enough to post it again.

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/legislation-news/74536-bps-new-inhaler.html

 

[James]

An employee from Johnson and Johnson bought 20 kits from us here in the UK - wanted to see "why people liked them".

 

[MoonRose]

I think there's a good news story wrapped up in here someplace.

"USA Pharmaceutical companies trying to create their own ENI (Electronic Nicotine Inhaler) while at the same time encouraging the FDA to ban Electronic Cigarettes that are already on the market. This would allow them to have complete control of any and all ENIs that are sold world wide."

 

[IOU]

I think this is awesome. If BP comes up with an e-cig that is approved by the FDA it could really forward the technology and acceptance of vaping into the mainstream.

 

[GitMoe]

I think this is awesome. If BP comes up with an e-cig that is approved by the FDA it could really forward the technology and acceptance of vaping into the mainstream.

And also make it harder and more expensive to get....

 

[DataPhreak]

OMG No way never would I vape pyruvic acid. look at the MSDS!

http://www.sciencelab.com/msds.php?msdsId=9924778

On a side note, WTH were they thinking?!

 

[jlarsen]

OMG No way never would I vape pyruvic acid. look at the MSDS!

http://www.sciencelab.com/msds.php?msdsId=9924778

On a side note, WTH were they thinking?!

Pyruvic acid, or rather an ion of pyruvic acid (pyruvate, essentially the same thing) is created in the body during glycolysis. It is present in most if not all living organisms.

More adverse to health than PG or VG, or so it would seem according to the MSDS. Doesn't appear that inhaling it is a good thing - maybe their going for a really intense TH.

 

[pixiedust]

I hope they abandon the idea, what they will do is market them as a way to quit smoking, make them prescription only and probably disposable- so you will have to pay $150 to go to the Dr. to get a script and then probably get 10 disposables good for one or two days each for $100-$150

 

[rothenbj]

Just as long as the FDA finds them safe and effective and gets you back to smoking after you've made your proper payments to the Pharma machine- keeps the big boys happy

 

[jtpjc]

There could be a positive. "Are you telling me that I can't use my medicine on this plane? Do you want me to DIE?"

 

[Vocalek]

I'm having a bit of difficulty finding the evidence proving that this study is part of a plot by Big Pharma to do an end-run around e-cigarettes.

One of the researchers is none other than Dr. Murray Laugesen who did all the studies on safety of the Ruyan brand e-cigarette vapor. Dr. Laugesen's goal is to help smokers find a way to reduce their health risks. He believes that providing an acceptable replacement for smoking is potentially a more effective solution than nicotine weaning therapy.

One of my favorite quotes from Dr. Laugesen, when a reporter asked whether addiction to e-cigarettes would be a problem. His reply was somthing to this effect: "Yes, addiction is a problem, but not as much a problem as lung cancer."

If you are interested in reading the entire journal article, Dr. Laugesen has posted it on the Health New Zealand site.

http://www.healthnz.co.nz/NicotinePyruvate_2010.pdf

All the information about who designed the equipment, etc. can be found at the bottom of the first page of the article. If the design eventually goes commercial, my bet would be placed on Phillip Morris marketing it as a smoking replacement, rather than Big Pharma turning it into YANRT (yet another nicotine replacement therapy).

For those interested in learning more about Laugesen's viewpoints on the e-cigarette, I just ran across this interesteing interview with the man. http://www.ecigscience.com/drmurraylaugesen.html

 

[DataPhreak]

Yes, but Laugesen and the CEO of the company he works for are two different people. Think about Einstien and the atom bomb. Emloyers and scientists often have different views about the ultimate goal of technology they develop. That being said, I'm not going to say that anyone should be putting on their tin-foil hats just yet. They are a business after all. That's what they're built to do, make money. "Funding" the FDA in order to get their product to the market faster would probably be more economically viable than going through the same legal hassle everyone else is. I don't blame them for that. It's just sad that the FDA has to be "Funded" by a company trying to get a product out to market when they're already funded by the american tax dollar.

As far as pyruvic acid being present in the body, yes, we know. It's one of the byproducts of propelyn glycol being matabolized. That being said, it's the byproduct of the kidneys. The tissue in the kidneys and bladder are "Built" to withstand acidic chemicals. The lungs, throat, and skin not so much. Forget building the juices on your own. I just don't understand why they would take out a relatively safe ingredient and replace it with a potentially very dangerous one.

I think that about covers my daily speculation quota. Nah, probably not.

 

[Vocalek]

Yes, but Laugesen and the CEO of the company he works for are two different people.

Not unless he has a split personality.


Dr Murray Laugesen - Curriculium Vitae

Dr Murray Laugesen is New Zealand’s most experienced researcher on smoking policy and cigarettes. He founded Health New Zealand Ltd as his research and consultancy company in 1995, after 18 years as principal medical officer in the Department, (now Ministry) of Health, and Public Health Commission. Since 1995, Dr Laugesen focused first on policy and policy advocacy (see EndSmoking NZ ) and then research. (Health New Zealand Company News, electronic cigarettes) The aim is the same: reduce cancer and heart disease and create a healthier, cigarette-free New Zealand. In 2006, he shifted office from Auckland to his home city, Christchurch.

 

[DataPhreak]

Pwnd... -_-

 

[PoliticallyIncorrect]

I think this is awesome. If BP comes up with an e-cig that is approved by the FDA it could really forward the technology and acceptance of vaping into the mainstream.

I can only speak for myself in saying that if the only options before me were (A) buying a BP-manufactured, FDA-approved, thoroughly emasculated PV from the pharmacy at CVS, or (B) buying a pack of Malboro Menthol 100s at essentially the same or less per-day cost, I'd inevitably choose the latter.

 

[Angler]

There is only one immutable fact of life: The rich will ALWAYS trample on the poor.