PigCig from Lecig review

[Jerms]

I had ordered the PigCig battery and charger over a couple weeks ago from Lecig for $30 (shipping free). It's a Ego style fat batt that fits 901 attys and KR8 cartos. It's 650 mah, and I believe it runs at true 3.7v. I'm basing the 3.7 on the fact that it seems to perform identical to my KR808D-1 batts but I have not tested it and don't have a confirmation on that.

As of now it comes in three colors: black, chrome, and gold. I had chosen the chrome model. The charger is no longer offered free at Lecig so it's available for $30 for a battery and $7 for the charger. Also available is a starter pack for $75 that includes 2 batteries, usb and wall charger, cone, 5 mega cartomizers, instructions, and a gift box.

The PigCig, in my opinion, is a very attractive PV. I haven't used and Ego, so I'm not sure how the size compares to that, but it's actually a lot smaller then what I figured it would be. It has a well implemented recessed button with a blue LED. The end of the battery is flat so it easily stands on end which I like. My one complaint with the unit is the cone. It works perfectly fine without the cone, but for me it looks better with it. The problem is that regular sized cartos don't stick out as far as I would like with the cone on. Of course, this is not a problem with mega cartos and one can always add a drip tip to regular sized cartos, but I would like to see a smaller cone available. I emailed Lecig about this complaint and they forwarded my suggestion to engineering so we'll see if a smaller cone becomes available.

Performance wise, it's exactly what one would expect from a 650 mah battery. I can get a full day use out of it and charge it overnight. There is around an 8 second cutoff, which to me isn't a problem but might be for some. I've been using a LR cartomizer on it so anything above 8 seconds would probably choke me

In conclusion, if you're a KR8 user who would like an Ego like experience and still use your KR8 cartos, this PV might be the thing you're looking for. It's also perfect if you would like to try LR cartos (which are suggested to be used only on a 450 mah device or higher) or if you like to use 901 attys. If you want to use the cone, be sure to pick up some mega cartos or add a drip to to your regular cartos. And if, like me, you'd like to see a shorter cone offered, let Lecig know you'd be interested in that! My experience with Lecig has been great, I find the quality, pricing, and customer service top notch. Shipping's fast and, a huge plus for me, free!

Please feel free to comment or ask any questions about the PigCig or this review and I'll do my best to answer. Also, I'd love to hear your opinion on the PigCig!

 

[pianoguy]

I ordered a battery/cone for my wife (came with a USB charger), and she liked it so much that I ordered another. So far I think the Ikenvape mega cartos perform a little better than the ones from LeCig.

 

[Jerms]

Thanks for the tip. I actually have some stainless colored megas coming from Ikenvape that I ordered with a LR 901 atomizer from Ikenvape.

 

[pAth77]

Sorry to jack your thread, but I just wanted to give my 2 cents. I pretty much agree with everything that Jerms wrote. I just received my PigCig today, and I must say that I am very impressed. Before today, I have only used 510 devices so this is my first kr8 PV. Thank you to everyone that steered me in this direction.

The build quality is exceptional, and I was surprised by it's fairly compact size. It measures 102mm from the base to the tip of the cone, 109mm with the standard carto attached, and 125mm with the mega-carto. Its approximately 3mm shorter than the Inferno (eGo type 510) 650mah batt and 13mm shorter than the 1000mah batt. Unlike the Inferno (and I assume that eGos are the same), the cone of the PigCig is threaded so there is no way for it to accidentally detach from the batt. I've been vaping on it fairly heavily for the past 4 hours and there has been no drop-off in performance; the drop-off on the Inferno was quite noticeable from fully charged to empty.

To compare the vaping experience between the PigCig and the Inferno, I used the same the same juice (80/20 PG/VG hypermint mix from BMV) in both devices. I attached the kr8 carto on both the PigCig and Inferno (using a 510-808 adapter), and then I attached a CE2R4 carto on both the Inferno and PigCig (using an 808-510 adapter). The TH, vapor, and flavor are definitely better on the PigCig, and that's probably because it runs at 3.7v versus around 3.2v for the Inferno; at least that's what I've read (I don't have an tools to measure the voltage, but others here have done it).

The only point where I disagree with the OP is the size of the cone. I find that the PigCig has a much more airy draw than the Inferno, but that is easily remedied by partially placing your lips on the cone to regulate the airflow. If the cone were any shorter, then I would have a lot of the carto inside my mouth. If you throw on a mega-carto and use the same technique, then you might gag yourself

As for the cartos, I emailed LeCig to inquire about the resistances of their cartos, and they said that the standards run at 2.4ohm and the megas run at 2.3ohms. They're not LR, but so far they're still an upgrade from the CE2R4s that I was used to (both in terms of performance and ease of filling/refilling). I have a batch of V4L Wow cartos on the way (which I have been told are running at 2ohm), and I'll get a few of the Bloog MaxxFusion cartos to see how they compare.

Please know that I'm not trying to bash the Inferno or other 510s out there. The Inferno is still a great PV. I started on the 510, and it's the sole reason why I was able to get off the analog train. I'll still hold on to my Inferno and 510 parts so that I can try out the Inferno tank system when it comes out later this month. But as of today, the PigCig will be my "go-to" PV.....that is, until I can get my hands on a GGTS

 

[Jerms]

Hey path. Nice to read someone else's take on the PigCig and I'm glad you posted some extra details. I'm surprised at how much it seems to me the PigCig is looked over when people mention KR8 fat batts. The Elegant seems to be given as an example much more often, but as far as I know the PigCig is the only available eGo type battery that runs at a true 3.7v. I would think that one detail would be enough to get more people excited about it. On the other hand, as far as I know, it's newer then the other KR8 fat batts so maybe not enough people have tried it yet.

That's a good point you made about the cone offering the option to tighten the draw of regular sized cartos. I prefer a more airy draw so I've been going without the cone or using a drip tip. I don't like my lips to be as close as it needs to be using the cone with just a reg carto but I can definitely see people taking advantage of using your style.

Thanks for posting the ohm rating of LeCig's mega cartos. I have a pack of them coming and it's nice to see they're at the lower range. I've used 3 ohm cartos and LR 2 ohm cartos and 2.3 sound about perfect for me. I did just receive some megas from Ikenvape but haven't used them yet and don't know how many ohms they are. Right now I'm trying out a LR 901 atty on it for the first time, actually the first time I've ever used an atomizer, with a drip tip. I'll start a new post about my new experience with dripping after testing it for a bit but for right now my initial impression is holy cow, THIS is what I've been looking for.

 

[pAth77]

...I'll start a new post about my new experience with dripping after testing it for a bit but for right now my initial impression is holy cow, THIS is what I've been looking for.

I think you meant to say "Holy Pig!!!"

From what I can see in pictures, the Elegant looks identical to the eGo style 510s except that it's kr8 treaded. Their batts are 750mah and 1300mah so I would imagine that they would be significantly larger. My 1000mah batt was extremely long, and it was somewhat inconvenient to carry around in my pocket. Combine that with a mega-carto, and it measures out to be 147mm!!! That makes the PigCig 25% smaller with the standard carto attached and 15% smaller with a mega-carto. For me, that makes the PigCig much more "pocketable." The 650mah may not be ideal for heavy vapers, but it's perfect for me when I'm out and about.

Ergonomically, the slightly curved area that contains the manual button is much more comfortable in my hands. The Inferno (and from what I can see in the picture of the Elegant) has a recessed area for the button, and IMO is not as sleek in appearance.

 

[samsmom]

I have a PigCig and used to have an Elegant Easy. After using both I sold the Elegant as I like the PigCig much better. It stays constant until it dies and doesn't gradually drop in performance as the battery loses it's charge.

I do agree with the OP's cone opinion. I don't use it unless I am using a Mega Carto. I don't care much for the LeCig Mega Cartos though - much prefer Nhaler's Jumbo Cartomizers.

 

[MikeDeason]

I got the Defender from VaporNine; is this the exact same thing?

 

[pianoguy]

I got the Defender from VaporNine; is this the exact same thing?

Looks similar

 

[Moshmarr]

as far as I know the PigCig is the only available eGo type battery that runs at a true 3.7v

Hmmm, interesting. Anyone know if this is true of the defender?

 

[Jerms]

I couldn't find any confirmations on what the Defender runs at; but more seemed to lean toward 3.1v-3.3v under load. Anyone have any links that show the actual numbers people have gotten testing these KR8 fat batts under load? Maybe this is a question that would have a better chance of being answered in the ask the vet. forums?

 

[pAth77]

Style-wise the Defender looks identical to the Elegant, and like the Elegant, they use 750mah batts so they will probably be slightly larger than the PigCig. I couldn't find much on their running voltage.

 

[Moshmarr]

Maybe this is a question that would have a better chance of being answered in the ask the vet. forums?

Yeah, probably so. Thanks for lookin' though. Maybe Ben at Vapornine could clear this up too, just curious if any of these fat batts run @ a true 3.7...

 

[pAth77]

Don DaBoom has a writeup of all the ego-style fat batts that includes both the 510 and 901/808 threaded batts. Here is the link. Apparently the Elegant runs somewhere between the eGos 3.4v and the PigCigs 3.7v. He has the Defender there too but does not mention its voltage.

 

[geminimind]

Got the pigcig on the 31st I love it. Lasts me about 8hrs. I bought the starter kit. Lecig needs to do something about the mega cartomizers though. Like samsmom I like nhaler jumbo carts too. Not a bad pv at all. But I am a moderate vaper though so it works for me.

 

[Natalia]

I saw this over the weekend. I think it is the same as the PigCig, but cheaper. Eden Kit by Black Cherry

Edit: Sale pricing for 2 battery kit is 50.00 with another 10% off using ECF1 coupon code

 

[DonDaBoomVape]

Don DaBoom has a writeup of all the ego-style fat batts that includes both the 510 and 901/808 threaded batts. Here is the link. Apparently the Elegant runs somewhere between the eGos 3.4v and the PigCigs 3.7v. He has the Defender there too but does not mention its voltage.

Thanks for the plug, pAth77! The PigCig came out after I wrote that article.

There does seem to be some question about the PigCig's (or the Elegant's or Defender's) nominal voltage. I don't have a voltmeter myself (and wouldn't know how to determine nominal voltage even if I did). My impression is that all fat batts are around 3.4V. I am leery of claims otherwise.

I'll just point out the the two-battery 750 mAh Elegant kit is $15 less than the comparable 650 mAh PigCig kit. And you can get a 1300 mAh XXL Elegant battery for $5 less than a 650 mAh PigCig battery.

 

[Jerms]

Hey Don, glad to see you drop by to share your view. Your world of vaping write up was a huge help for me when I started vaping.

I'm thinking about adding a second fat batt to my collection, and that is a great price on the Elegant. I'm going to wait though to get a confirmation on how my volts the PigCig is putting out. But honestly, I don't have enough experience to know if I'd really find much of a difference between 3.4 and 3.7v. Also, since I've just discovered how much I like dripping into an atty rather then using a carto, I'm wondering if I might be happier with a 510 threaded fat batt like the eGo. From what I've read the 510 atty is quite a different animal from the LR 901 I'm using.

 

[Jerms]

Natalia, I did take a look at the Eden kit and I am thinking you might be right. It does look identical to the PigCig.

 

[DonDaBoomVape]

Hey Don, glad to see you drop by to share your view. Your world of vaping write up was a huge help for me when I started vaping.

I'm thinking about adding a second fat batt to my collection, and that is a great price on the Elegant. I'm going to wait though to get a confirmation on how my volts the PigCig is putting out. But honestly, I don't have enough experience to know if I'd really find much of a difference between 3.4 and 3.7v. Also, since I've just discovered how much I like dripping into an atty rather then using a carto, I'm wondering if I might be happier with a 510 threaded fat batt like the eGo. From what I've read the 510 atty is quite a different animal from the LR 901 I'm using.

Thanks for the compliment, Jerms! The updated and enhanced version 2 is on CyberWolf's and my VapingGuides.com.

The 510-based fat batts would open up a large world of myriad atomizers, cartomizers, and features. The 510 atty is only one of those. Take a look at my eGOs and Rivas, Hellos, Oh My! article to see some of what's available ... and notice Liberty-Flight's very low price on a 750 mAh Riva "LITE BUNDLE" full kit (especially after taking 20% off using "ecf" discount code).

OK, I've done my duty. Now my favorite fat batt is the 801-type Boge Leo. It's not compatible with anything else (including with other "801" penstyle atomizers), but it delivers the smoothest, richest vaping experience I've ever had. See my review here on ECF. More and more suppliers are carrying it – virtually all at a Boge-enforced $50 (for a one 800 mAh battery kit), although Vapor Junction just started carrying the Leo for $45 (at the moment).