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Sonloo

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Ok so I orders some juice from mount baker vapor Vanilla Custard and it taste horrible and I decided to speed steep it. I took my crock pot and a plastic zip lock bag put the plastic bottle in the bag put it in the crock pot with water put the lid on and set it to warm left it in there for a few hours. Did this twice... Now I'm scared it's leaching and plastic chemicals are getting in the juice but I cannot see any physical signs of leaching like melting on the bottle. So is it safe to Vape now I'm probably gonna do it anyway cause I'm an idiot but is it bad?
 

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It's probably safe. I can't imagine the lowish temps from a crock pot on warm would break down the plastic. That said, the heat won't cause it to steep, either. In fact, it may have precisely the opposite effect, as the heat might have broken down or oxidized important flavor transmitting chemicals. Steeping is best done in a cool, dark place like a closet or desk drawer and takes days, weeks, or even months in some cases (depending on the juice and its complexity). Nothing replaces time for steeping, unfortunately. You may very well have muted the flavor of the juice permanently.
 
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It's probably safe. I can't imagine the lowish temps from a crock pot on warm would break down the plastic. That said, the heat won't cause it to steep, either. In fact, it may have precisely the opposite effect, as the heat might have broken down or oxidized important flavor transmitting chemicals. Steeping is best done in a cool, dark place like a closet or desk drawer and takes days, weeks, or even months in some cases (depending on the juice and its complexity). Nothing replaces time for steeping, unfortunately. You may very well have muted the flavor of the juice permanently.

I've heard of this method. Well, sort of like this. The article called it "homogenizing." I've never tried it but I heard it's a last resort for juice after regular steeping hasn't helped he flavor.
 

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Well I take it next time you'd be more mindfull to put the stuff in a glass bottle first before leaving it in a warm place to steep.

I'd leave those bottles alone for a while; later on you'll probably get yourself an rda anyway and try some out to see how it tastes, or if a significant amount of plastic did leech into the liquid you might notice some symptoms on the bottle develop.
 

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Yeah, I heard of it some time ago, too. Ultimately, you're cooking the juice, though and breaking down important flavor producing substances in the process. Steeping isn't a process of chemical breakdown. It's a combination of oxidation of nicotine (and not the rest of the juice), evaporation of latent alcohols used in flavoring concentrates, and slow combinations of some chemicals in the juice. And heat helps NONE of that except for the oxidation. Unfortunately, it causes the rest of the juice to oxidize, darken, and thin out. It breaks down parts of the juice into its baser components. Darkness, coolness, and time... that's what steeping is about. Homogenizing a product that isn't meant to be homogenized (literally chemically blended) doesn't generally produce favorable results. But to answer the OP's question, it should be perfectly safe.
 

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I'd say the bottle is fine. However, I completely agree with @Cloudmann, heat totally changes the flavors and not in a good way. Some people swear by it, and I guess if it's the only steeping method you've ever tried, you wouldn't know the difference. For me, there is no replacement for good old time in the aging drawer. However, I have noticed that if I put 30mL of my vanilla custard juice in a glass bottle, and 30mL in a plastic bottle, the plastic bottle will age much quicker...
 
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