Plastic Bottles & E-Liquid
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I was wondering if this thread was still active. Haven't been here for awhile. I got my glass bottles yesterday and made the switch immediately. All the juice I already had mixed up went in the trash and I made all new juice and put them in my new glass bottles.Now all my stuff...juice, flavorings, nicotine, PG VG etc are all in glass. YAY! I'm still on the search for that perfect tank though.
Have you looked at Phiniac Rugged Pyrex Glass Tanks Beautiful Pyrex glass tanks, handblown, textured, sandblasted, or Phineers. Tall boys will fit standard prepunched tank cartomizers. A bit pricier than other setups but WELL worth the money. Nearly undestructable, won't crack or leak. If you get one, I suggest getting their "tank tool" too, it will save o-rings and makes refilling a 1 minute or less task............ I have 5 sandblasted tanks, all fully loaded, I'm carrying them in the little pouch they send out with every tank. 2 tanks per pouch, I usually have all 5 with me, rotating throughout the day. Holds about 4 ml of juice plus the 2 mls or so in the carto. All day vaping joy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Have you looked at Phiniac Rugged Pyrex Glass Tanks Beautiful Pyrex glass tanks, handblown, textured, sandblasted, or Phineers. Tall boys will fit standard prepunched tank cartomizers. A bit pricier than other setups but WELL worth the money. Nearly undestructable, won't crack or leak. If you get one, I suggest getting their "tank tool" too, it will save o-rings and makes refilling a 1 minute or less task............ I have 5 sandblasted tanks, all fully loaded, I'm carrying them in the little pouch they send out with every tank. 2 tanks per pouch, I usually have all 5 with me, rotating throughout the day. Holds about 4 ml of juice plus the 2 mls or so in the carto. All day vaping joy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I'm not going to mention the vendor so go check out my review under Suppliers - Positive. I was just in the same tank situation as you! I found another pretty good website for glass bottles
Abundant Health - Your Aromatherapy Accessory Source! - Nevermind...shipping and handling is same price. Darn.
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I have questions
I use distilled water to do the final rinse. I also use distilled water to thin juice. Just think it's safer this way.
Wow I can't believe I read most of the posts.. I am not going to re-package all of my e-juice I have bought from vendors in the 3 months Ive been vaping.. I siimply do not have the time or the spare cash. but I understand the concern.. I did find the little glass bottles I will be buying for my DIY. They are clear, and 10ML. Since they are going to go into my little Peg's DIY Medicine cabinet I think they will be alright. (since they are not fancy amber and blue). Ive been thinking of getting a couple of bottles for my stash of mixed nic and then I glanced at all the empty quart, half quart and 1/4th quart canning jars all sitting lonely because my tiller has been broken and I didnt garden 2 years in a row. No garden no canning.
Does anyone see a problem in storing mixedNIC, or unmixed NIC in a 1/4 quart canning jar?
Does anyone see a problem in storing mixedNIC, or unmixed NIC in a 1/4 quart canning jar?
I may be in the minority here but if juice was melting my bottles I'd stop vaping the juice, not replace the bottle.
Also I must confess to not having read through the whole thread yet, but surely somebody must have already noticed that the bottles in the pictures just happen to be "melted" right in the area that gets deformed when you squeeze them?
Yeah, I actually would do both. I'd certainly stop vaping the juice, but also wouldn't use that plastic any more.
Fo sho. I can't believe I just said that. Anyway, the glasses have come in handy. My juices keep their flavor and I can take them for a dip in hot water when I want to speed up their steeping. They have also been very kind when I have dropped them
It is a chemical reaction with the juice components and the plastic that will not happen with glass. Nothing wrong with the juice, the components don't play well with plastic is all.
Plastic has always been a dangerous substance and it seems that we have only recently tried to get away from it with water bottles. I agree that all vendors should only use glass despite the price increase. My health is worth it or I wouldn't be vaping!
At least some (all?) of the eliquids causing difficulty with classic plastic bottles are likely ones found in the "juices that crack tanks" thread.
At least in the tank zone, it sounds like people have reached a conclusion that certain acids found in some of the liquids are the culprit.
Lungs are not plastic, however a vaper might want to consider how much they want to use any eliquid that is causing plastics to crack or apparently melting/deforming some bottles.
It's not a "the sky is falling" thing, but I would rather know that something I use is a bit questionable rather than just receive everything in glass, masking any potential iffiness.
At least in the tank zone, it sounds like people have reached a conclusion that certain acids found in some of the liquids are the culprit.
Lungs are not plastic, however a vaper might want to consider how much they want to use any eliquid that is causing plastics to crack or apparently melting/deforming some bottles.
It's not a "the sky is falling" thing, but I would rather know that something I use is a bit questionable rather than just receive everything in glass, masking any potential iffiness.
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I agree. I won't have anything to do with juice that cracks or melts/deforms plastic. That would be too corrosive for my poor lungs.
Personal choice.
Today I noticed that a good 10+ 30ml plastic bottles of juice that have been setting for months all had this same nasty rubbery taste to them and thought...maybe it's the plastic causing the taste so I search for an answer and fount this thread...now I'm convinced it was the plastic bottles that turned all this juice off tasting. Such a shame because the juice is pretty much unvapeable now and it tasted just fine when first purchased. The juices are all tobacco or dessert flavors with no cinnamon/citric flavors. Tested in multipe atomizers to rule out hardware also.
Interesting thread. Thanks to many for keeping it alive.
I am now considering buying some glass for longer term and bigger volume storage. The main consideration being preservation of the product inside. I'll likely get a small collection of 30ml/1oz amber bottles with regular caps. Here's my (turns out, long-winded) 2¢ on the concerns already noted:
Seems a few folks have verified problems with their older plastic containers. Either giving the liquid a taint (less than ideal taste) or rendering it useless. A few mentioned a plastic taste - an obvious container problem. Like everyone else that saw this thread, I checked my older bottles out LOL.
I am an unusual use case, sort of timely (pun intended) for this discussion. One, I have been using one vendor exclusively for about a year and a half. Two, I haven't bought any small containers (except for 10ml bottles that are used for transfer, getting tossed in about a month when the child-resistant lids strip) since about Nov 2010. Yeah, boring I am. Short version: I found my favorite and gave up on trying new stuff about that time. About every 6-8 wks I order 120ml of my fave, use it up, then toss the empty. The unloved bottles that live in my juice box are all 1.5 - 2 years old. No cloves, but there are two cinnamon bottles in there. The box itself is a small cardboard gift box. Nothing fancy. It has a slight scent to it, nothing that remarkable. It's not very carefully stored in a cool spot (room temp) and out of direct sunlight.
The relevant fact here is that 80% of my old stuff is in the same packaging from my "go-to" vendor. Either 3, 30, 60, or 120ml HDPE #2 (smooth, translucent clear) or 10ml PETE #1 (smooth, transparent clear). When I first ordered from them even the 10ml bottles were HDPE. I don't remember when they switched - probably around Sept '10. None of those bottles have any signs of trouble. The HDPE bottles are all smooth and have none of the rippled appearance reported by others. The PETE clear ones are not soft or show any signs of deterioration. None have any plasticky scent.
Next to the little box also sits one 120ml bottle of my fave dated 6/5/12. About due to reorder that one LOL. Next to it are two partial, but big, oldies. A 120ml (about 90ml remaining) of an orange flavor from 1/4/11 and a 60ml (about 35ml remaining) of vanilla dated 12/3/10. For what it's worth, those two old liquids are nearly black in color. When new the vanilla was a clear brown and the orange.. well clear orange. Today they have the same, unblemished, non-stinky condition as the little old bottles. Oh yeah, most are high nic - 36mg with a few lesser ones sprinkled in.
So what. Well, I recently got the urge to see what's new in hardware. I bought a couple 2Ω Vision clearomizers to try out on my eGo. Awesome improvement over my last try with CE4 cartos when they came out, but I digress. I filled one and use it with my fave. The other has had about four different oldies but goodies cycled thru it. Mostly fruit flavors. They are strong tasting and not as sweet as they were when younger. Nothing I'd toss out. Well, not yet anyway. Point is, the flavor of the vape has no hint of plastic. If the Visions hold up I will be buying more and using up some of my old juices.
A move to glass will be for protecting the liquid, with the amber color to hopefully shield or reduce oxidation. Not to beat a dead horse, but I'm not doing this out of fear of toxic plastic contamination. I've probably chewed on enough ball point pen caps and whatnot to make a run at some of the cancer points from 30 years of cigarette smoking. Seriously. I think a round of golf with no sunblock is probably more risky a venture than e-juice bottle contamination. I've watched Coca Cola dissolve the tarnish off a penny. I rode around in pickup trucks unrestrained as a child. Ran with scissors while at the swimming pool.
If one or three of those old bottles get sour before I buy glass, I'm not going to be hurt too much.
P.S: The Jan '11 Orange Creamsicle is actually pretty tasty. I've gone thru a half a tank of it while writing this post on and off.
I am now considering buying some glass for longer term and bigger volume storage. The main consideration being preservation of the product inside. I'll likely get a small collection of 30ml/1oz amber bottles with regular caps. Here's my (turns out, long-winded) 2¢ on the concerns already noted:
Seems a few folks have verified problems with their older plastic containers. Either giving the liquid a taint (less than ideal taste) or rendering it useless. A few mentioned a plastic taste - an obvious container problem. Like everyone else that saw this thread, I checked my older bottles out LOL.
I am an unusual use case, sort of timely (pun intended) for this discussion. One, I have been using one vendor exclusively for about a year and a half. Two, I haven't bought any small containers (except for 10ml bottles that are used for transfer, getting tossed in about a month when the child-resistant lids strip) since about Nov 2010. Yeah, boring I am. Short version: I found my favorite and gave up on trying new stuff about that time. About every 6-8 wks I order 120ml of my fave, use it up, then toss the empty. The unloved bottles that live in my juice box are all 1.5 - 2 years old. No cloves, but there are two cinnamon bottles in there. The box itself is a small cardboard gift box. Nothing fancy. It has a slight scent to it, nothing that remarkable. It's not very carefully stored in a cool spot (room temp) and out of direct sunlight.
The relevant fact here is that 80% of my old stuff is in the same packaging from my "go-to" vendor. Either 3, 30, 60, or 120ml HDPE #2 (smooth, translucent clear) or 10ml PETE #1 (smooth, transparent clear). When I first ordered from them even the 10ml bottles were HDPE. I don't remember when they switched - probably around Sept '10. None of those bottles have any signs of trouble. The HDPE bottles are all smooth and have none of the rippled appearance reported by others. The PETE clear ones are not soft or show any signs of deterioration. None have any plasticky scent.
Next to the little box also sits one 120ml bottle of my fave dated 6/5/12. About due to reorder that one LOL. Next to it are two partial, but big, oldies. A 120ml (about 90ml remaining) of an orange flavor from 1/4/11 and a 60ml (about 35ml remaining) of vanilla dated 12/3/10. For what it's worth, those two old liquids are nearly black in color. When new the vanilla was a clear brown and the orange.. well clear orange. Today they have the same, unblemished, non-stinky condition as the little old bottles. Oh yeah, most are high nic - 36mg with a few lesser ones sprinkled in.
So what. Well, I recently got the urge to see what's new in hardware. I bought a couple 2Ω Vision clearomizers to try out on my eGo. Awesome improvement over my last try with CE4 cartos when they came out, but I digress. I filled one and use it with my fave. The other has had about four different oldies but goodies cycled thru it. Mostly fruit flavors. They are strong tasting and not as sweet as they were when younger. Nothing I'd toss out. Well, not yet anyway. Point is, the flavor of the vape has no hint of plastic. If the Visions hold up I will be buying more and using up some of my old juices.
A move to glass will be for protecting the liquid, with the amber color to hopefully shield or reduce oxidation. Not to beat a dead horse, but I'm not doing this out of fear of toxic plastic contamination. I've probably chewed on enough ball point pen caps and whatnot to make a run at some of the cancer points from 30 years of cigarette smoking. Seriously. I think a round of golf with no sunblock is probably more risky a venture than e-juice bottle contamination. I've watched Coca Cola dissolve the tarnish off a penny. I rode around in pickup trucks unrestrained as a child. Ran with scissors while at the swimming pool.
If one or three of those old bottles get sour before I buy glass, I'm not going to be hurt too much.
P.S: The Jan '11 Orange Creamsicle is actually pretty tasty. I've gone thru a half a tank of it while writing this post on and off.
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