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Sam.86

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Hi, this is my 1st post here and i'm seeking the advice from the experts. I started mixing my own ejuice:). I tried to mix 5 different flavors using high ranked reciepies. Now the juice smells perfect but bearly tast!!!!!! I started with 10% flavoring, 15, 20 then 30% but still tast nothing!!. Some recipes are total of 8% flavoring and has 5 stars review by hundreds of users!! Bit when i tried mine no way:-x
This happened to me in bouth fruity and desert flavors.

I use only TFA flavors.
70VG/30PG.
No NIC.
Steeping time: 3 weeks.

Please help:cry:
 

Izan

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Hi, this is my 1st post here and i'm seeking the advice from the experts. I started mixing my own ejuice:). I tried to mix 5 different flavors using high ranked reciepies. Now the juice smells perfect but bearly tast!!!!!! I started with 10% flavoring, 15, 20 then 30% but still tast nothing!!. Some recipes are total of 8% flavoring and has 5 stars review by hundreds of users!! Bit when i tried mine no way:-x
This happened to me in bouth fruity and desert flavors.

I use only TFA flavors.
70VG/30PG.
No NIC.
Steeping time: 3 weeks.

Please help:cry:
Hi Sam, welcome.

What device are you using and what juice have you been using?

When tasting new mixes; I need to "clean" my palate with a tooth brushing, a bit of unflavored and/or some olives or other salty food. Seems to wake my taste buds up a bit and gives me a more accurate idea of how the mix is progressing.

Cheers
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You didn't mention steeping your juice. Did you? It's common to smell or even sometimes taste a brand new mix, but then the flavors fade for a while, it's generally recommended to allow them to "meld" together by putting them aside, shaking them every so often and allowing the flavors and all the other ingredients to "meld" together, which takes time. With some flavors, or even things called "one shots" you can add to your base and shake, and vape immediately. However, unless designed to be vaped immediately like one shots you will need, at bare minimum at least a WEEK to see how your flavor is progressing, and THEN try your mix. Some ingredients need even more time, like bakery flavors, creams, coffees, tobaccos, etc. Some flavors shine after a MONTH of steeping.

It can be hard just starting out to wait that long, one reason why "one shot" flavors can be useful as you are allowing your other mixes to steep.

FA flavors are actually rather strong. 10% would be pretty reasonable if you are coming from storebought juice. But, 20, 30, 40% etc? No, that's going to be unvapable (most likely) even if you let it steep.

Go here for a ton more information: DIY E-Liquid

Lots of helpful folks and great information.

Good luck. I would discard what you have, and begin over. Use small amounts (not just of flavors, but make a small tester mix first). There are various methods to shorten steeping times, although some of them can mute flavors.

Once you are on a "mixing schedule" so to speak, it will be easier to give your mixes the necessary time to steep.

Good luck!

Anna
 

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I’m going with device possibly being one of the main culprits. Until I got new tanks I had no idea how tasty vaping could be! What type(s) are you using?
I want to help but I have a couple questions. 3 weeks steep time... Is this between each percentage raise? For example, your mix steeped 3 wks. Then you tasted and nothing. So then you bumped the percentage up and steeped again before tasting and so on until you reached 30%?
Nothing wrong with it but is there a reason why you only use TFA?
 

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Hi, this is my 1st post here and i'm seeking the advice from the experts. I started mixing my own ejuice:). I tried to mix 5 different flavors using high ranked reciepies. Now the juice smells perfect but bearly tast!!!!!! I started with 10% flavoring, 15, 20 then 30% but still tast nothing!!. Some recipes are total of 8% flavoring and has 5 stars review by hundreds of users!! Bit when i tried mine no way:-x
This happened to me in bouth fruity and desert flavors.

I use only TFA flavors.
70VG/30PG.
No NIC.
Steeping time: 3 weeks.

Please help:cry:
Hi; and welcome to ECF!:D

I am seeing possible problem areas based on what you wrote.

You say you mixed 5 different high-ranked recipes... but:
--- you also say you "started with 10% flavoring, 15, 20 then 30%."
--- you state you "use only TFA flavors."

What I am hearing is:
"I am using recipes as a guide; but I am not mixing the recipes as written." By "as written," I mean using the exact ingredients, and the exact amounts, that the recipe calls for.

This creates a couple of problems.

First, all ingredients are not equal. Strawberry made by TFA, does not taste like Strawberry made by Capella. The flavor is not going to be the same; one may taste more like candy, another may taste more like jam, another may taste more like fresh fruit. And, the potency/strength is not going to be the same; where one tastes best at just 2%, while another needs 8%. A DIYer can not just substitute a flavor from brand "A", for a flavor from brand "B", and expect the recipe to taste the same. It may be close, or just somewhat similar, or nothing like the original recipe.

Second, just arbitrarily altering percentages ("10, 15, 20,30%") can throw a recipe out of whack. The ratio of each flavor used depends on the ratios of all the other flavors. If there ratios are not preserved, the flavor profile becomes unbalanced, and it no longer tastes good.

It would be helpful, if you would post an example of one of the recipes you used; first exactly as it was written, and the again exactly as you mixed it. Be sure to use complete (and accurate), manufacture and concentrate names (for both recipes), and measured amounts (milliliters, milligrams, or drops). Then we might be able to better understand where the wheels came off.:)
 
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