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  1. Jonnybarr91

    Jonnybarr91 Full Member

    Feb 7, 2018
    Those who make your own juices,
    Is there a certain brand you like to use?

    I’ve started mixing my own and using mainly Capella atm but there suggested percentage is 15-20% mix which is quite high compared to others ? I like my flavour strong so having to make a 70vg/30pg with around 25% of it being flavouring.

    Any advice will be great !
     
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  2. Sugar_and_Spice

    Sugar_and_Spice ECF Guru Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    That is really high for capella. Who suggested that amount? Start around 3% and work up. What flavor is it?
     
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  3. stols001

    stols001 Mistress of the Dark Nicotinic Arts Verified Member

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    I like many makers juices. Flavor Art is considered strong, typically, by others and I find it to be so. You may want to try some of their flavorings to see if you can get your percentages down. Really, though, I find "recommended" percentages to be just that. I typically will flavor on the lower end of the scale, and now that I DIY I find many juices to be overflavored and/or understeeped. That may be part of your problem as well, however, as some juices flavor profiles really only shine after a fair amount of time has passed, anywhere from a week to a month.

    There are methods of "rapid" steeping but I do personally find them to be inconsistent at best. I would mix up some of the flavors you have and not touch them (at lower percentages) other than shaking periodically for at least two weeks. You may find you need less flavoring that way. But really, each flavor from ANY maker is going to hit your "sweet spot" at a different percentage.

    Berries and fruits tend to need a bit less time, so you may want to start with some of those flavors as well.

    Best of luck,

    Anna
     
  4. Jonnybarr91

    Jonnybarr91 Full Member

    Feb 7, 2018
    Well on the website I buy it from that’s what it says and where I have read online topics show Capella say 15-20% this is prettty much the same on all their concentrates? I know I read them at they have no sweeteners in also but everywhere I read it seems to be in that percentage range
     
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  5. Sugar_and_Spice

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    Which flavors and which websites?

    :)
     
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  6. Jonnybarr91

    Jonnybarr91 Full Member

    Feb 7, 2018
    I do only have the berry’s and fruit flavours, I also have made a blueberry donut but know that needs longer steeping time,

    So I made a blue raspberry cotton candy

    70/30
    13% FW blue raspberry
    4% blue berry xtra CAP
    10% blue raspberry cotton candy CAP
    3% raspberry CAP

    AND after 2 weeks the flavour is there but not that strong!
     
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  7. Sugar_and_Spice

    Sugar_and_Spice ECF Guru Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    You can always go here to get possibly more answers

    DIY E-Liquid
     
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  8. Sugar_and_Spice

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    One of the flavors that is muting the taste is the cotton candy. It is nothing but em and at that % will mute flavors. em or cotton candy is not a sweetner but to add some mouth feel(body) to a mix.
     
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  9. Jonnybarr91

    Jonnybarr91 Full Member

    Feb 7, 2018
    I’m in uk
    And one called Rainbowvapes it’s online,

    So I have
    CAPELLA- blueberry extra, peach, sweet strawberry, harvest berry, blue raspberry cotton candy, raspberry, black cherry, wild cherry, glazed donut

    FW- blue raspberry

    These are what I have so far
     
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  10. Jonnybarr91

    Jonnybarr91 Full Member

    Feb 7, 2018
    Oh I see ! So maybe a very lower percentage of the blue cotton candy with higher blueberry and raspberry would be better ?
     
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  11. Sugar_and_Spice

    Sugar_and_Spice ECF Guru Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    I will have a look. Also there is also such a thing as too much flavor......too much flavor will also mute the taste. Sounds counter productive, I know. but it is true.

    :)
     
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  12. Jonnybarr91

    Jonnybarr91 Full Member

    Feb 7, 2018
    Oh right! I never knew that! Wouldnof thought more flavouring the stronger it would be lol
     
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  13. Sugar_and_Spice

    Sugar_and_Spice ECF Guru Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    Yes, I would try a lowered pct but wait to taste and allow a few days to steep before upping any of the other flavors.

    :)
     
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  14. Jonnybarr91

    Jonnybarr91 Full Member

    Feb 7, 2018
    Oh I will try that! I made a simple blueberry donut at 70/30 20%blueberry 10% glazed donut and that has steeped a week but had a little vape of it and tasted pretty good but better with longer steep so it’s all learning curve I guess
     
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  15. Sugar_and_Spice

    Sugar_and_Spice ECF Guru Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    Some of the juice makers use much higher pcts in their ejuices and lots of sweeteners in their mixes for a couple of reasons. New vapers that are just coming off from smoking cannot taste very well. That is because the smoking kills or dulls taste buds so they want to make sure you can taste their juice. 2nd higher flavor pcts do not require as long of steep times so there is usually no waiting to vape the juice.

    :)
     
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  16. Jonnybarr91

    Jonnybarr91 Full Member

    Feb 7, 2018
    I have not had a cigarette in about 2-3 years and have vaped for that long, I will be upgrading my mod and will start to build my own coils with a tank soon as I’m using a alien smok, with a Aspire clieto tank at the mo
     
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  17. suprtrkr

    suprtrkr ECF Guru Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Hi and welcome. I use TFA flavors, and 25% would have me gagging. Haven't ever tried Capella, though, so maybe I'm wrong.
     
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  18. Jonnybarr91

    Jonnybarr91 Full Member

    Feb 7, 2018
    Well using Capella 25% of total flavour combined doesn’t make me gag and the flavour is still quite low so maybe try TFA and FA liquids
     
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  19. BrotherBob

    BrotherBob Vaping Master ECF Veteran

    Dec 24, 2014
    Sunnyvale,CA,USA
    Welcome and glad you joined.
    Nor does 25% make me gag either, we are all different.
    Might want to post in:
    https://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/forums/diy-e-liquid.38/
    Here is a quick look into DIY, might like to visit:
    Getting Started: DIY 101 – Mixing Your Own eLiquid
    diy_beginners_guide - DIY_eJuice
    http://www.ecigexpress.com/shop/diy-e-liquid/diyordie-concentrates.html
    http://www.ejuicemakers.com/help/
    How to get started mixing your own DIY e liquids.
    diy_beginners_guide - DIY_eJuice
     
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  20. Jonnybarr91

    Jonnybarr91 Full Member

    Feb 7, 2018
    Thanks mate I’ll post it in there as well
     
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